I say no worries man and great setup pf pheromones! you hit her just right with the A314/Ammo as these seem to be the driving mones. The IS is a great addition to make her feel good. The P96 I am sure aided things here and tied a lot of this mix together and this had to have a little imprinting to it, and I am willing to bet she will not forget this signature anytime soon. I would not worry about the whole beer thing, Just play it cool and see where it goes, I mean come on you are the great Von with women everywhere!
I use to only date women within so many years of my own age until I was 25, and an older lady (I was 25 at the time and her 55) convinced me to at least try it. Now she was no model, but not half bad, and it really opened up my eyes! Ever since then I have had a thing for older women 40+. I am married now, but before I always had women I mean anywhere from 22 to 63 if they were hot enough! Age don’t matter at all shit.
What I have learned and especially with pheromones is to consider where there age and where they are at in there life. For example a 21 hot blonde chick in college is probably not looking to get married really, but still will want some emotional connection with a guy to open up more.
Now with older women 40+ they have been around the block a time or 2, and have found you just have to shoot them straight and no games. Just be you and wear a mix like you did that is heavier on the Enone, and Erone.
you’re right j dub, it definitely makes for a memorable first date…
Justin I felt she could have done with another drop of a314 and you’re right more enone! This woman has really changed my perception on the whole age thing but I don’t think I would go as old as you have you granny snatcher! lol I know I am changing her perception of what she thought she wanted… I so hope I tap that.
So i tested out Puppy Love, I ordered it as the new scent free stealth diffusion option. I have to say I’m disappointed as it is not stealth at all. It is scented with vanilla? I messaged Brian a week ago and got no response..
I tried it 2 sprays with two drops of a314. I did not get any of the negative self effects Justin reported, just the usual a314 confidence.But then again as a single man maybe I have nothing to feel needy about. I didn’t get any crazy hits from females. Based on local bar girls reaction a314 + 96 they hits them harder. Ended up in a club with lots of young girls around after the 5 hour mark. I hate watching how needy and forceful some of the guys look on the dance floor, grabbing at their women, facing them ready to pounce with the clamps while wasting the floor space with their lacking dance moves. Maybe the PL was effecting them, but I have however watched the a314 make men act possessive around their women as they feel threatened. Got a few decent male hits, not that I’m bothered, I’m talking free drinks from strangers and being treated like the alpha, even though I was manning the dance floor alone for a good half hour… Only one decent female hit of the night..A pretty girl dancing around, I could see there was a guy with invested interests grabbing at her… This is my new trick to get women to approach. Stay still long enough for the cloud to attract enough females. I’m dancing with my eyes closed, smiling, looking up. Then the young girl leads me by the hand to dance with her. I run my hands up and down her sides and back for a bit, dance a little with her and let her loose.. A bit later i see that needy guy practically face raping her… I provide an opportunity for them to approach a man who is not projecting neediness or being leery. You can also be certain that they find you attractive.. For this environment I should have been wearing mx297. I’ll have to try it solo for pick up, or use this mix for a date.
For me whatever is in PL is in IS/A and I have it narrowed down to TAH, TAL, or TAK I am sure. I have these 3 and will have to test. I say this because I got this really crazy irritated reaction from the PL like I did with IS/A and when I worn the PL I seen it from our 11 daughter to like if she was not the center of everything she got really nasty and mean.
With other women for me it was full on way over the top or nothing, no in between. Same with my wife to.
I applied PL two sprays.. Now I see what Justin is saying about the negative self effects. I quickly became unglued and unsure of myself. I started to reenact the break up of my last gf through my head triggered by the slightest visual que. I started dithering around finding any excuse to not leave the house when I said I would. I then decided I couldn’t leave the house without my a314 in my pocket as I felt so unstable. In the end I had to apply one drop as I just didn’t feel right. One drop managed me to regain my posture some so I went to the pub. I do think this is a hit machine definitely, but it’s self effects leave it as second place to a314 + p96. Its well rounded and male and females respond to it very positively. I found myself with my mate and two old flings from this journal. (both have bfs now). Old Indian fling had some serious preen going on. She took her hat off and ran her fingers through the whole length of her long hair for several minutes. One of the biggest preening displays I’ve ever seen. Those two were like usual towards me, i.e. over the top attention, no testing. I do however feel they respond better to the androsterone 96 combo and I do too. This thing seems powerful and probably would be effective at one spray. I imagine one spray with p96 over a314 is more workable for me. I didn’t have much exposure to unknown females. As I was leaving the bar I had to kick myself, there was a girl I knew at the end of the bar with a couple of gfs with her… I was tired and didn’t notice them till I was half way out the door. I yelled out goodbye X. She responded and then one of her friends opens me, hey nice hat. Can you tilt it at me? so I tilted my hat at her, said good bye and walked out the door. Was too late to salvage a proper opener in my condition. X is a regular there and I’m seeing her in there more often. Maybe she’ll bring her friends with her next time too. X has a bf but I think I am leaving her with a curious impression as I never harass her much and always leave her presence first.
My thoughts on PL is its a rollercoaster for everyone and it needs some androsterone to stable out the self effects. I may solo test it next weekend again when doing some xmas shopping, but probably will carry my a314 with me incase I have a personal melt down again. I could imagine this mix would be useful when you wake up the next morning with a woman you don’t wash and apply just one spray and hop back into bed.
Thanks for the reports. It’s strange that your product smells vanilla. It’s probably the scented women’s version then. I believe the lady’s version is vanilla scented.
Although the vanilla scent isn’t too bad, it is not stealth.. need to sort that out.. Used it again recently with IG and I kept a very stable mood. I do think however it depends on how you are feeling before you spray the stuff on you, as your starting state of mood is amplified.. In all tests I have stabilised my mood with androsterone similar to Justin’s findings.
so I’ve started using androstenone again, as some might remember I stopped using it, other than the tiny bit in a314, as I used to get some negatives in some settings. But when used correctly I have come to slowly realise there is no replacement. Been on a bunch of dates recently some good some bad and have basically added a spray or two of ammo to my fallout mixes. I remember one date a while back and I went wearing my tac, shine, p130 mix and it just didn’t get enough respect, I was being cautious thinking no androstenone or a314 as she’s young.. Well that was a mistake, without any androstenone or androsterone in the mix you just aren’t taken as manly enough…Overwise when not on a date I just use mx297 + ADG but only have I finally saw where ones comment “a gay celebrity on drugs” comes from. I have also worn ammo mixes around male friends with no negatives recently but these are fleeting visits, I will not wear appreciable amounts of androstenone when keeping male company… The good news is I’ve sorted my game out a bit. I’ve gone from just casual hookups to dating, but still allowing casual hook ups.. Went on couple of dates with the Italian but she’s in Italy now, I think she likes me, utter patience has a beautiful women within my grasp. I have been diligently not contacting her since she blew up my phone when she left with a surge of kisses.. when she returns on the 4th I wonder how long it takes for her to contact me.. I am currently fighting an urge to send her a New Years greetings message in Italian.. But the part of me that wants to do that I know is only doing it through the insecurity of thinking that she might have forgotten about me when she went back home.. and writing it in her language may seem like I’m trying to please her in some way… all coming from a place of weakness, so for now I sit and wait diligently until she contacts me, if she ever does.. Meanwhile I met a28yo online and am dating her. I initiated the first two dates then hung back and now she is on the chase.. she’s cool and we hang well but not a jaw dropper like the Italian. She’s been blowing my phone up loads the last week.. its funny I don’t ask but she just texts me her weekly schedule constantly. She’s invited me over to hers later on in the week as she has a free house. I’m thinking 2-3 sprays of ammo with some tac.. I’ve already a314 ammo p96ed her twice now so we need some animal aggression. KISS!
I’ve realised how xmas makes me feel depressed. It is actually just xmas day as on Boxing Day I feel completely fine. I remember feeling the same last year. It brings a great sense of loneliness and self criticism, I can’t help but be cynical and brash sometimes.. But here’s to the new year and to the new possibilities it holds. I can feel my grip tightening and am due a lucky streak soon.. I’m starting to feel broody these days, would really like a nice gf but realise I am picky/compatibly difficult. At the same time I like the idea of seeing more than one women until I find a keeper..
I totally agree with your theory on Enone. I was wearing 2 drops of A314 to work and I did not get the raw power I was looking for from it, so I upped it to 3 drops and I did not ghost, but I was lacking what I was looking for. What I did was dial my A314 back to 2 drops and added a 1/2 spray of TUTH and this did what I wanted!
The only issue with Enone is for like work it is a little much with the women and I have to balance things out as I am not looking to get hit on, just want more power out of my work mix and have been trying to adjust other things in the mix.
Enone is a must have for me now almost in any mix. With P96 it is to much for my liking, so I may have to now swap out for P74 again and go from here.
You have the whole world in front of you and seem to have a lot of different women to choose from, I am sure if you are wanting a GF you will find the right one, and in the mean time enjoy the ride!
Yeah I swear by ENone, are you kidding me.. it’s the guys’ respect, girls break a neck mone. But I know some peoples sigs perhaps don’t go well with it.. but from my experience it is always a must have in mixes.. at least somewhere, even if it’s just from ammo.
good to hear from ya dude.
I think you could wear a nuclear status/fallout mix and filter out the women to attract a ‘keeper’.
yep sometimes you gotta just enjoy the ride Justin thanks for reminding me… You can’t go wrong with a314, ammo, p96… has all the main attraction mones and is perfectly synergistic.
…I know you love androstenone jdub! Its just I have been doing pretty well without it. Always thought my natural supply was pretty good but as you know has peaks and troths. Alas i have been wearing it around male friends and strangers recently and haven’t had any negatives, so I may be making some more ‘nuclear’ mixes in the near future (-;
ammo x~3 neck/chest
tac ~10 mcg neck
p96 x 15 mcg wrists
p130 x 5mcg pubes
28yo lass invited me over for dinner. She is chatty and smiley on arrival.. I hang back a bit and bite my lip, as I felt the androstenol making me very expressive during the pub prior.. Food was good she did sweet potato mash and sausages. I bought the wine and weed. She quickly suggests we watch a film in her room. I’m like sure. We watch some film and its 20 minutes before we get it on… My hands wander along her waist line. She reciprocates my physical escalation about 80% until she’s dripping wet and grabbing at my trousers trying to get me loose… So how does the p130 in the pubes function I hear you ask? As soon as I’m properly out she’s militant on with the head.. (-; she then orders me to stand up, lol, so she could do it better. I was pleasantly surprised as she has a cracking bod, considering the boat race aint all that… What I would consider a perfect rack.. Anyway I trashed it until she left a puddle… got some more head and went again till exhausted. She was giving orders a lot, requesting position changes etc.. seemed very forward where normally that would be my department.. She came several times so should be able to keep her as a fwb for a bit, nice and local. Got some more in the morning, again escalated through rubbing her pussy. We don’t seem to be kissing a lot so it seems this is just an animal satisfaction thing which is fine with me.
Woah! That was a dope mix right there, ammo/TAC/96/130! Sheesh!
Crazy night man, would you attribute any of the extra sexuality to the p130?
If so, what would you think it did specifically?
I haven’t worn p130 in a couple years and last time I did I remember the girls in my college classes coming up and sitting right next to me a lot.
yeh pretty text book.. the p130 doesn’t effect the mix until my trousers come off… I don’t think it particularly matters what mone I use down there, its more the application point and that being where they are drawn to. So when they’re off they b line to the D. Plus think about it, the more effort they put in the closer they get to the application point. I know some women might be reading this and think what a slime ball, but hey I love bj’s. P130 is a flirty, feminine molecule for me, it relieves anxiety and will smooth over any hang ups they may have. I would call it kitten candy… I urge you to spray some in your pubes and find out… I would attribute her extra sexuality to increasing my androstenone proportion through ammo from 1 spray to 3.
