Confessions of an AFC

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i did not know where to post this, it is not really Phero advice but was different then the stuff in the lounge.
if this is the wrong spot im sorry, please move to the correct location and call me stupid :slight_smile:

Confessions of an AFC
This is my take on improving ones self to rise above AFC status. I still consider myself an AFC. None of this is to be taken as a way to do it just my opinion on this topic, also I am not trying to advertise for outside companies.
This is from a Growing AFC to fellow AFCs.
Background history


First of I cannot remember anything past the age of 12, and more of my youth 12-15 is a haze, thanks to a few too many concussions in MMA. But that shouldn’t matter much.
So I’ll start off in middle school, it was rough; I did not have a good social life and not many friends. I will admit it I was the kid who would play pokemon cards with the other losers then go out and be social. Why? I do not know, but I regret it. My friends consisted of the goofy tall kid, fat round one, skinny weak one, and me the short one. I was also beginning to get introduced to the world of video games, the greatest pit trap ever.
By high school I was an avid player of an MMORPG, which shall not be named because it ruined my life. I hung out with friends from school, outside of school, maybe once every month or two. I did not play sports, nor did I have girl friends, besides my hands. (lol) By end of junior year I would say I was quite upset with my life and the way things were going. Senior year was not much better, until the end. I stopped playing all video games, at the beginning of the school year, went to more social gatherings and events, never a party :/. By the end of the year somehow I managed to get myself a cute little Philippina, by no means was she sexy, but she was neither ugly nor fat, she was cute. We broke up after 3 months.
Post high school, I’ve had a few girl friends nothing like I wanted, none of them were ugly but it wasn’t what I wanted! But things began looking better I read some material and would practice it on any female I saw, old, young, pregnant, 3 kids, one legged… And to my liking my “game” got better.
What I did.


1.Video games must go!
Ok not all, but mainly ones like World of Warcraft (I have yet to play) one of the most addicting games imo.
The idea of playing video games is not logical,
1.They deprive you of social growth
2.They consume all your time
3.Many games cost monthly fees like $15 a month and cost 50 dollars for the game + expansions.
4.If you find yourself spending more time playing games the interacting with people PLEASE just disconnect your game console, uninstall from your computer, and hide them!
5.
2.The internet
Do not be too busy posting on the internet to try show you’re the man, and help other people, it is good to help, and please help them! But it is an easy thing to get sucked into. Manage your online time and do not allow yourself to get sucked into it.
A great example is my brother, he knows MM better than anyone else I know, he posts on line all the time to help people, he even helps me! The stuff he says and tells people to do is amazing and it works to pick up girls, but he is a 21 year old virgin never had a girl friend, he got sucked into it and part of the reason I’m buying pheros is to help him out also, and make it easier on him.

3.Read
I would recommend every AFC to read the Mystery Method book and Neil Strauss: The Rules of the Game.
If you read them a million times and still have no luck with women then STOP READING! You are wasting your time sitting in your house isolated from society reading. You already know the books front cover to back. Go out and use what you read. It will not come easy, but will be rewarding. (This was one of my issues).

4.Practice!
This is the one I would have to stress the most, the one I DID the least. The only way an AFC will grow is to go out in society and practice, who cares what people think of you? (we all care but it is our enemy).
If you go out and fail to open a set you are not failing, you are gaining the knowledge you need to do it right next time.
It is better to fail 20 times then to not try at all.
Practice on every girl you see, ugly, beautifully, old, or young. If you cannot say these things to a 4, how do you think you’ll pull it off on a 7?
Do not worry if you get turned down, they probably won’t remember who you were or what you wanted, it is not important to them or you. Do you remember what the person wanted 3 days ago when you said no thanks? I don’t.

Self story about practice


This is not bragging this is just my experience, so I practice all summer and freshmen year of college on all sorts of women, I go back home for the weekend because my buddy is back in town and what do we do? Go to the strip club, so I shave nice and neat, side burns mid ear, hair on my chin only. Were enjoying the show and then a dancer comes over to me and tries get me to get a lap dance. I don’t know what happened to me just MM(mystery method) started pouring out of my mouth well long story short ended up getting free lap dance and her phone number, we hooked up the next day. Which leads me to my next topic
Grooming


Groom yourself well, if you are going to have facial hair maintain it well, I rocked the long side burns that go down around chin for a while I like it, if you can pull it off do it, if not don’t.
Keep your hair maintained; make sure it looks like it is supposed to be a style, not just some crap on your head to keep you warm in the winter. Your hair is your choice but use it to your advantage.
Finger nails and toe nails…CLIP THEM! It is gross and huge turn off to have long nails.
Pluck hair in between eye brows, brush teeth, all in all take care of yourself.
Excersie.


A great thing to do is be physically fit, each person has their own fitness level, you know your body type if you’re a heavy built big guy that is what you’re going to be, if your short that is what you’re going be, if your skinny that is what you’re going be, but get in the gem, it works wonders, makes you feel great about yourself and look better too.

PHEROS
I have not used pheros yet, my intentions with them would to be able to help open sets. I have been reading about pheros, from what I understand they are no replacement for practice opening sets, but a tool to make it easier on yourself when doing it.
I will post more AFC- phero usage later.
This is my thoughts now, is that no matter what I have it will only be as useful as I make it, the pheros will only help me as much as the effort I put forward. I am hoping for a (that p word) effect that makes me think it’s going to make me better so I go out more and try more often.
Just don’t buy them thinking there going solve all your problems, you will still have to work.

Thank you for reading this, please feel free to add to it, leave suggestions and comments. If you use some ideas I presented here please give me credit ( like you copy and paste and add).
Also I would like to thank every member and admin of this forum, and community, you guys and gals are awesome!

If this helps just one AFC get him or herself out of their current state of AFC-ness then I have done my job.
Thanks,
-Nate
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Yeah, this topic has nothing to do with mones. Wrong forum.

Incidentally, don’t they sell AFC at LS? It’s been around for at least 6 or 7 years. I’ve not tried it–heard it was kinda ineffective–as I’ve been happy with NPA and TE.

you are on the right track bro..I was like this on the old days..during my high school years..I had friends who were cool..but I always was afraid to go in public..videogames and internet were my world…I didnt get my 1st gf till the 1st year of college..and she is the one who liked me 1st..I was told that I was a good lookin guy, but the fear of rejections hold me from asking any girl out..my2 nd girfriend wasnt the girl I would love to date,but one of my friends set me up with one of her friends and we started dating…however I was fed up with the way my life was heading..I had a job..and I was doing great in school..but socially It wasnt that good..but thats all came to end when I started not givin a f*** about what people think ..I just go out there and start a friendly converstation..I would talk to anybody…so what I was missing was confidence…but that wasnt enough..I was hungry for more..I wanted to be the master of the game ..so a friend of mine who moved to live in France sent me a pheromone as a gift..he told me it worked well with him..I tried it and he was right..it worked like magic… :smiley:

So true. Unfortunately, I haven’t been able to get rid of all my games, but I’ve made lots of improvements in my social life. Guys, if you’re in a similar situation, listen to bedojo… he speaks the truth.

i still have some games, xbox360, but play less then once a week and havent bought any new games for a while, i speak the truth cuz happened to me :confused: but im changing and i hope the AFC’s who want to change try there hardest and put forth a good effort and they will probably see some good results.

sorry about posting on the wrong forum section lol i didnt quite know where to put it im going to add somestuff when i get time to test pheros on me, and my bro whos never had a gf.

thanks for your replys

That was the million-dollar revelation for me in high school, and it almost happened too late.

Granted, a small private school in the middle of nowhere isn’t exactly social Nirvana, but it can still be hell on earth.

I tried and failed miserably to fit in, be “cool”, whatever. I was poor growing up so I didn’t have the Bugle Boys and everything else the cool kids wore (THAT dated me right there :smiley:), mainly HMD’s and whatever was on the clearance rack. I didn’t own my first pair of Nikes until college. But I tried to fit it. I tried WAY too hard, ruined my chances from the very beginning.

After one particularly humiliating experience where trying too hard to be cool ended up embarrassing the hell out of me, I ended up at home, sitting on my bed, actually considering putting an end to it all. All at once, I realized that I didn’t even really like the people I was trying to impress. They were a bunch of rich, stuck-up snobs and jocks, and I was only trying to impress them because they were the “in” crowd. Right then I made a statement that changed my school social life for the rest of high school and all through college:

Fuck them.

Plain and simple. They became nobodies to me. Social status meant nothing to me anymore. I was going to be what I wanted to be, and if I’m not rich or a jock or “popular”, who cares? At least I would still be able to look myself in the mirror and like what and who I saw.

Within two weeks I was popular.

I still have no idea exactly how it happened, but somehow treating all of the “cool” kids like they didn’t matter at all to me somehow did the trick. The funny thing is, I took my new popularity and threw it right back at them. Just because I had become popular didn’t mean I suddenly changed my mind and wanted to be like them. And then I was still popular, but I’m also popular to a greater portion of the school because I told the “in” crowd where to stick it.

Strange, strange world.

Bottom line, that old guy had it right: “To thine own self be true”.

Well, thanks for the great advice… However, I don’t see how YOU can possibly be an AFC since you are only 18 years old??? I usually think of an AFC as all those 30+ year olds and beyond dudes who are at home playing World of Warcraft. Oh well, either way, great advice man!! :cool:

Nate, you are so right. World of Warcraft is the most absolute perfect birth control method ever invented. Getting addicted to this game is the perfect way to ensure you will never get laid. And you won’t care.

Diane

Frickin’ righteous, that brings back ancient memories. In fact, I did own a pair of Bugle Boy jeans in the 1980s. Maybe two. Remember the ad with the hot chick in the sports car pulling over to ask some poor dude “are those Bugle Boy jeans?” Funny thing is, women can recognize your jeans with a single glance to your ass. Of course now it’s True Religion, 7 For All Mankind, Ed Hardy (butt ugly), etc. I guess a $300 pair jeans lets her know you’re got a paycheck 'n good for a meal or two. Works better than mones in many cases.

Well, if a woman doesn’t like my Levis, that’s tough, because that’s all I wear. They look good, they feel good, they fit right and I can generally find the 527’s I wear for around $32.

Yeah, I remember that commercial. For some reason always reminded me of Roxette’s “Joyride” video.

At least I never owned parachute pants, a glitter glove or anything pleather or spandex. And I never had a mullet, mohawk or Kid 'n Play hairstyle.

I got lucky - Went to an extracurricular thing for a week - Didn’t know ANYBODY there (only person from my school to go that week). The even had people from all over the country.

I found out that I was actually a naturally likeable person and all the BS in Highschool was just that (BS). Even realized that I was REALLY good at getting girls to like me.

Less than a month later I ditched most of my “friends” who for the most part I allowed to treat me like shit because I thought it was important to hold on to their friendship despite the fact they treated me like crap. Best move I ever made.

I always spray my NPA/Burberry Weekend mix on my jean’s button fly before a date (zippers are dangerous around drunk women). Accessorizes any make or model of jeans. Could be coincidence–not–but her head always seems to be drawn to it and remarks about how good it smells ensue.

And yeah, mohawks seem to be coming back. Maybe I’ll try one for Halloween…

I believe you can be an AFC at 18,
lets look
most of the “natruals” lose there virginity from 12 to 14, or atleast have girls that they hang out with, kiss, make out, have fun with.
then 15-18, 6 years after you start seeing other males your age with women, and the fact that you cannot get a girl friend.
so 6 years no gf, no female interest in you, i think that would fall under afc, all afcs start shome how :stuck_out_tongue:

Wrlprchnx is absolutely right on with this one

I had the same kind of friends, unfortunintly I kept them all the way through, durring the summer after graduateing i decided F them, and that worked wonders,

if your “friends” are holding you back from what you want to be, then they are not friends at all. I would say become what you want to be socialy then your new friends would come to you, but if they are holding you back and dont share the same interst as you do then move on.

o yeah, thanks for the nomination!

I completely agree with this. My circle of friends changed when I recently came back to school after a leave of absence due to bad grades. These guys are all productive and supportive. Having friends with similar mindsets has been very helpful in keeping me on track. If I start slipping, a friend calls me out and challenges me to stay on track. If I catch my friend slipping, I’ll call him out and challenge him. The other day, my friend and I were just hanging out and she told me that if it weren’t for our circle, she wouldn’t have been nearly as productive this year, and probably would have been kicked out of school.

Cheers for good friends. Thanks guys. :smiley:

Relationships


I would like to bring up another point that I have come to realize as an AFC’s, do not force a relationship or in this case relationshits.

I have had this girl on and off for 6 months, I should of just broke up and stayed broke up the first time I broke up with her.

-A common mistake I make, and am trying to fix, is sticking around too long with a girl when it is obviously not working out.

  • I have nothing against relationships, or people in relationships, but as an AFC we tend to stay in a crappy relationship for much to long because we do not know when the next girl will come along our way. In relationships we tend not to “run game” on other females, because we do not want to mess things up with the current girl.

A couple points I would like to make about this

1.If your relationship is not happy – don’t stick around you will be miserable-ER the longer your with her and you will make her miserable as well,

2.Chances are she probably has another man somewhere else that makes her happy

3.You are losing valuable time practicing on your social skills necessary to pickup girls. Your are constantly approaching your expiration date. So why waste time in a crappy relationship?

4.Some people just don’t like being in relationships, I’m one of them, if it’s not for you don’t do it, note. This doesn’t mean don’t get girl friends and have sexual actions with women, I’m just saying if you’re not enjoying the one on one kind of commitment then don’t force it, and play the field.

All in all don’t waste her time and your time in a crappy relationship that both are not enjoying. I see this all the time, with myself and other people I know.

These are my views on relationships, please post yours as well! :slight_smile:

Clubs/social events


Some mistakes I make at clubs and social events.

  1. Trying to get laid to hard and showing it to the females, it seems that it is easy for others to pick out people who are trying hard to get liad. I am attempting to not make it as obvious right away

  2. Being in a bad mood is no good, it radiates off of you to others and they don’t like you. (Hoping instant shine helps with this for me !)

  3. I tend to not engage other people then my target; I ignore their friends which is a big mistake! If I can’t get their friends approval I am probably not going to end up with a number or a later date.

  4. Talkative! I am shy, because i never had the social success others have, I tend not to talk and when i do i don’t say what i like to say. I am thinking of taking a speech class at my university to force me to talk infront of people and get more comfortable with the situation.

Exercise


I would like to go into some more about exercise,
I find with exercise it helps me feel better and puts me in a better mood, I went through a year without exercise regularly. Throughout that year I noticed I wasn’t in a good mood most the time, didn’t have any gfs, and wasn’t very social.

I just recently started exercising again, lifting weights, and jogging. I have noticed an uplift in my attitude and energy level, I also get complements like “you look good today”.

I don’t know the science behind it, but it would be interesting to look at.

I have found that exercising regularly helps me mentally and physically, with an increase in my test scores in school, to being more confident and outgoing in social events.

Simply it makes me feel good!

Today I was in sorta bad mood, when checked the status of my order to see it was in FedEx location at 8 am in my town, only to go there and be told I can’t get it because the delivery date is tomorrow. Well just got back from the gem and notice I’m studying better and in a better mood.

Let’s just hope my pheros get here tomorrow! lol

Very bad idea #1. You’re going to the clubs, socializing, etc. with the express intention of getting laid. If all you want is to get laid, a hooker and a good condom are easier to do. If you’re looking for a girlfriend or even a decent “fuck buddy”, setting out to get laid will just end with you, your hand and a dirty magazine. Why? Look carefully at the terms. Girlfriend. “Fuck Buddy”. They have to like you and want to befriend you. You’re looking for a walking vagina, they’re looking for someone to talk to and be friends with. Now, that’s not to say that you won’t get laid. But you have to build at least a semblance of trust, and desperate men aren’t trustworthy. Go into the evening with one goal firmly in your mind: I’m gonna have fun and talk to people. I’m gonna dance, meet people even if I’m not interested in sleeping with them, and just enjoy the night.

Take the pressure off of yourself. Go with those goals in mind and you’d be amazed by the people you meet and the friendships you make. Even if a girl isn’t a “hottie”, you may become friends with her. Girls introduce their friends to each other…get the idea?

You’re focusing on a single tangent and when that gets shot down you’re devastated, something else women are very quick to pick up on. So look at the whole room as your target. Meet new people. Connections and friends are very important to have.

Public speaking classes are good to help the nervousness, I’ve taken several and have no problem speaking to one or one hundred people. But I’m Irish, so it helped…it will help your confidence, but in order to succeed at what you want, you need to change your tactics a bit.

thanks for going into more detail on number one that’s the kinda thing was hopping people to do! yes I get what you mean (also said that it was mistakes i make :stuck_out_tongue:) but totally agree, if they don’t feel like you want to be friendly, then you wont have a chance with any relations with her.

That is great advice! I am definitely going to try keep that in mind thanks :slight_smile: