Congruence and the Consumer Line

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Not sure if this has been done before, but I figured I’d share what I’ve picked up about the consumer line and explain how to act congruent with the signal you’re sending out (at least as I seem to understand it). Now some people, particularly newbies might feel that congruence shouldn’t be necessary and that the pheromones should send the message they want regardless of what they do or how they act. I liken mones to the clothes you wear, if you wear an expensive Armani suit but scratch yourself in public, pick your nose and belch openly, nobody is going to mistake you for a man of class and substance. Likewise if you wear a Slayer concert shirt and spiked leather jacket but mention having seen “Rite of Spring”, can drop quotes from “Ulysses” and use a lot of big words, it might take a bit but eventually people talking to you would dismiss any notion of you being a typical brain dead metal head. The purpose of mones imo is not to convince somebody that you’re something you’re not, but to enhance their perception of aspects of what you ARE. Also if you’re interested in self growth and personality change, the use of the right pheromones can make the changes in your own behavior more accepted by people that already know you.
Try acting like a leader to people that don’t believe you have it in you and you might get frustrated at the resistance and every ones unwillingness to take you seriously.
Just start wearing A314 and change nothing, then at best you’ll get some comments on your new scent.
Do BOTH, and that’s when you notice things, the signal and behavior you send out seem congruent, the perception from people around you is that you’re not ACTING like something, you’re changing…becoming something.

That windy intro said here’s my take on a newbies guide to congruence with the consumer line

Pheromone: Alpha Androstenone
Products: Turn Up the Heat/Instant Jerk
Associations: Size, strength, health, fitness, competitiveness, sexuality
How to BE (not act) congruent with it: This is probably one of the easiest ones to work on your congruency with imo. Work on your own health and fitness. Lift weights, make some sensible diet changes if you have to. Improve your posture, it makes you look taller, more confident and imposing. Take up a sport or martial art, nothing says “none” like physical competition. This advice is more or less for older newbies since the younger guys (especially if they’re working out) probably produce a fair amount of none as it is. Work on your confidence, getting in shape and playing a sport are both great ways to do this but some people might need a self help course. I’m not interested in any particular method so you can find some good books on amazon at your leisure. As far as sexuality, if you’re already in a relationship, try and have sex more often, it’s great for your confidence, mood and testosterone levels. If you’re single, just get out there and make your moves quickly like you have nothing to lose.

Pheromone: AdrosteRone
Products: A314/Instant Gentleman
Associations: Mature, Responsible, Sophisticated, Confident, Dominant, Leadership
How to be congruent with it: If you want to seem mature, you have to act mature. Get a couple of books on stress and anger management as the biggest signs imo of immaturity is a lack of control over ones own emotions…particularly the more negative ones. Work on your responsibility, of your electricity has been shut off for the 4th time this year you could bathe in Instant Gentleman and nobody you know will think of you as a responsible, reliable guy. Some of you may or may not be going for a “sophistication” type of image, for those of you that are, there are books on formal etiquette and manners that you can buy. I’d also suggest asking yourself “What would James Bond be into?”. Pick up some books on classical music, opera, ballet and then use the info there as guides for some cd’s and dvd’s, a wine tasting course wouldn’t hurt either. For guys into the PUA scene you’d be amazed at how many younger girls that aren’t even into this stuff will swoon over the fact that you are. Tell a woman that’s only ever been to frat party keggers that you’re going to a wine tasting in Napa and you have DHV’d like few can. The biggie here is leadership. Read, study, take a course…whatever and work on management and leadership skills. If you plan on wearing A314 at your job, make it a point to not only know your job better than anyone, but no the duties of those around you. Sympathizing with coworkers and showing that you truly understand what they deal with will cause them to respect and support you, as well you become the person that knows their job well enough to make helpful educated suggestions at improvement. Beyond that tidbit look up John C Maxwell and follow his instructions.

Pheromone: Alpha/Beta Androstenol
Products: Instant Openness/Instant Honesty/Come talk to me 2
Associations: Talkative, Good conversationalist, open, honest, varied interests, Inquisitive
How to be congruent: TALK MORE! Seriously learn to initiate conversations with new people. Get a book of questions and pick a question of the day and make it a point to ask that question to 5 people you know and 3 total strangers. Get in the habit of asking more questions than talking about yourself. You can and should talk about yourself (which should be easy if you’re doing any of the things listed for the first two phero’s mentioned) but if that’s all you do, you come off as self centered. If you plan on wearing a pheromone that inspires talking from others, learn to work with it, ask open ended questions. Learn to give approval in ways that aren’t condescending, pay a sincere compliment to somebody when they talk about their accomplishments, it’s as simple as saying “Wow that’s pretty cool”. You can practice having deeper conversations with family and friends that you see often and see how long you can talk with people before the awkward silence comes up.

Pheromone: Taa (Test Molecule A)
Products: Instant Shine
Associations: Good Mood, Cheerful, Fun, Charismatic, Confident, Positive, Optimistic, Smiling
How to be congruent: Fairly similar in a lot of ways to IO as a mood lifter, you want to smile more. People will see your smile before they smell your mone sig. A smile along with good posture says “happy confident and probably fun to be around” Giving out approval like mentioned above helps with the mood lifting effects. If you compliment somebody it makes them feel good and they associate that feeling with you. Tell a few jokes (clean ones, dirty ones are funny but risky) Don’t bitch!, practice talking about positive things, or finding the positive in negative things. You can’t wear Shine and mope around complaining about how you hate this that and the other aspects of your life and expect people to still feel chipper around you. Even make the place you’re at seem like an awesome place, be enthusiastic about where you are, if you’re at a club comment on how great the club is. If you’re ready to bounce to a new location with a girl, tel her you know this great place that has the best coffee in town.

Ammo is honestly probably the easiest to be congruent with. It’s so well rounded yet the mones are equal portions that it doesn’t say a lot of one thing so much as a little bit of everything. Which I think means you can…with few exceptions just be as you are and the signal would be accepted because no one aspect stands out too much over the others meaning whatever your natural mone signature is like it’d just be more of it…a better more obvious perception of what you already are so to speak.

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Wow good work radman!

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I usually focus on just being myself and damn the friggen torpedos. I’m an arrogant asshole and proud of it. But, yeah, it helps to select moans that amp up your attributes even more, making your fat royal hindy bigger than life.

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I hope new users read this as this will help emphasize the fact that pheromones are not sex toys, magic, voodoo, or that Axe commercial you saw on TV. Steve stands by them being “Magic Bullets” BUT with the contingent fact that YOU the INDIVIDUAL are the GUN.

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I would also like to add, don’t make the newbie mistake that I did and throw together a haphazard mix of everything but the kitchen sink the first time out. Sure you may get some great results by random chance but you don’t know which products were doing the work and which ones might have simply been superfluous to the mix. Believe me, I know it’s easy to get excited and all of the products sound so positive it’s easy to assume that high doses of everything is good. You’d be wrong in that assumption. My best recommendation is to follow Steve’s guidelines for finding your sweet spot

for the various products. With the exception of A314 you can get to-go sized spray bottles of each product. This is a fairly inexpensive way of testing all the core products without making a huge financial commitment to one product that may or may not work for your particular needs.

I would like to add to what Steve recommends, by suggesting trying the products in a particular sequence. To best note differences as opposed to variations on a theme. In other words after testing Instant Jerk, switch to a more social product like Instant Openness or Instant Shine as opposed to another none based product like TuTH…the differences in reaction should be easier to catch than if you simply go from one none product to another.

If you’re actually interested in making certain people change their opinion of you in the process I’d also suggest testing the more casual IO before going for the deeper IH, and likewise in testing IG before starting to test A314.

First the progression should in theory be more subtle and easier for the people around you to accept. It gives you more time to make those gradual personal changes that will help your congruence be more believable. And by testing all of the other products first, you’ll develop your skill at reading signs of “hits” by the time you start trying A314 who’s effects are more subtle.

Once you know your sweet spot for each lone product and how to read the effects on people around you, you can tailor your selection of what products you want to use based on the overall message you want to send. I tend to suggest a 3/2/1 ratio. I’ve found I really enjoy the Alpha Male status if A314 and it’s fairly easy for me to act congruent with it. So I usually use three drops (which some might say is a lot). Then during work I use two sprays of Shine and one shot of TuTH, during the evening if I’m going out, I shift to two shots of TuTH and one of Shine. This way my message varies depending on my environment, but it’s consistent enough that people around me don’t get confused by dramatic changes in my signature. I always have the same alpha sig and am always throwing out a touch of sexuality, it just gets slightly stronger or weaker depending on my surroundings. You’ll find your own ideal mix as you progress.

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I agree with being yourself, and I’m not advocating pretending to be something you’re not. Note that I do clarify “Being congruent, over ACTING congruent” That said I AM a big proponent of “self help” and “self improvement”. When I mention people around you being either resistant or dismissive of attempts at improving yourself I speak from experience. And in a very short time I found that certain mones, while creating a very obvious effect on strangers, have also acted as a sort of lubricant…making personal changes more accepted by people that already have their own idea’s about me.

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I don’t know how this hasn’t been nominated before.

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Thanks man, I’m flattered.

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Is it the IS or the AMMO that i’m wearing? Or could it be the MX330 I put in there?

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Yeah I made the misatke of buying way to many mones at first now that i know better, I would have spent the $350 on a bunch of bottles of A314 & IH

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Fantastic Post Radman! You are a gentleman and a scholar.

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bumped because the link won’t work

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This should be stickied.

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Amazing post! Very helpful now I’m sure I’ll get better results because of you nominated.
Could you please add A1 to this for me?

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Nope, it is not a consumer line. Sorry! Ask Ktrain, lol

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OK I haven’t used A1, IFM was discontinued before my time and I haven’t bought any chemset yet.
So any advice I can give is as best an educated guess based on other users reports of effects.
The thing to keep in mind about A1 is that it is still a very masculine pheromone. Reports seem to indicate it has the best balance between socials like IH and more masculine feeling mones like Rone and None. Now given that it’s reputation is designed to create comfort and relaxation in the female…I suspect that feeling is based of a sense of security and feeling almost protected. Look at it from a Mystery Method perspective on the attraction switches.
Instant Honesty is the willingness to emote.
A314 is the leader of men.
Instant Jerk (with cops) is pre selected by women
A1 is protector of loved ones. I think the way to utilize A1 to it’s best capacity is to maybe play up the knight in shining armor vibe a little. The strong masculine protector. I suspect the effect might be enhanced by a little none (indicating physical strength) and is likely why it compliments A314 so well (based off other user reports on fallout)
Again, this is based solely off of speculation based on other user reports. Although having thought it through for the sake of this post I think I’ll probably get some and make a spray to try it out myself.
I would be eager however to hear from other users that actually have used it and get their opinions on it.

Androstadienone Guide
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Why dont u ask some members here to make a 10 to 15 mcg per spray of A1 in 5 ml togo and sell it to ya for 20$ or something?

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…damn…I’m retarded.

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Why would you say that? I am just saying- there are a few members here who are willling to dilute and sell A1 to you, or others. Of course, if you know them well, they might even give you one (5ml togo) for free. hmmm… who wants to volunteer? :wink:

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I think you summed it up rather well.
It is hard to describe “energy.” We talk about vibes here, signatures and signals. What kind of vibe are you putting off, what’s your phero signature, signal etc?
It’s easy to describe the vibe I’m putting off, but to describe the subtle shift in energy from when your woman is closed off a lot and then opens up, or is closed off a lot and opens a little, or closed off a little and opens a little. If you wear A1 enough around that special someone and you’re just not using it to chill her out during PMS, if you know that person, then you can see those subtle changes.

It might show up in just one more call a day, or a longing look that lasts a bit longer than normal…but you feel it. You can feel them wanting you.

I described in my journal that almost snap of the fishing line when I introduced IH and she was not ready for trust yet and then it happened, just a little bit. She opened up a bit more. I could see the confusion in her face, in her eyes she wanted me, she didn’t know why, I had hurt her so deeply…but yet she trusted me, felt secure with me.

Now in regards to congruence, I am working so hard as not to push too quickly, it is still soon. The wounds on both side are still fresh. I am working hard not to violate that trust again, and ensuring that when she is around me and feels that trust, feels that calm, serene, security that is exactly what I am providing.

I bought another bottle tonight, A1 IMO is the equivalent of A314 in terms of its possible life changing qualities. Using A1, A314 and IH combined helped me to salvage this relationship.