day 5: at the mall

[Daedelus76]

I realized I forgot to tell a little bit about myself in past observational experiments. So here it is.

I’m 5’8, 32 years old (I look younger), heavy build, brown hair and goatee+moustache, some muscles, 15 lbs. “overweight”, not athletic build- stout. My ancestory is 90 percent caucasian (WASP + French/German), 10 percent American Indian, no tribal affiliation, and have a light olive skin tone. Short legs, medium-long arms, long neck, sloping shoulders, medium heavy jaw, not too much chin. I have nystagmus and esotropia but I can control it most of the time and see with both eyes, and I wear glasses (I prefer small, thin oval frames). I have mildly epicanthic folds on my eyes, which is unusual for a caucasian, so I look a little exotic, and I also have small brown pigments in the whites of my eyes on the far corners (usually not visible), again, something that is normally seen only in Asians -and no, my mother did not sleep with an Asian man, honest (I grow facial hair like crazy- and definitely smell like a caucasian, for one thing), but otherwise my eyes are the same as the rest of my family’s- slightly almond shaped.

Location is Central Florida. It is quite hot here this time of year and only gets hotter. The heat is relatively dry at 50-60 percent humidity- relatively dry for Florida standards. People here range from uptight to layed back, many are nervous, stressed out, indifferent or jerks. It is a tought area to live in as wages are low and houses cost alot of money. Crime is relatively high.

OK, today I used the same mix I used yesterday- a base of inexpensive cologne, Alter Ego (blend of pheros skewed toward androstenone), plus equal parts 2x Instant Shine, 2x Instant Openness, Instant Female Magic- and I added a touch of Instant Honesty and diluted the strength somewhat so there is less Alter Ego influencing the 4 ml vial now (I would just throw out the batch, but I hate to waste it). Also, I’m wearing a small amount of Perception as well. I give myself 6 sprays, it’s very diluted and I just smell lightly of cologne and don’t smell the pheros much.

I walk around the mall with confidence, and a certain giddiness I attribute to the wicked delight of having a secret that cannot be shared. I’m also a bit nervous at the same time- will people suspect? Will I get freaked out? Social anxiety is entirely gone. I feel great, in control.

First thing I do is walk up and down the mall a few times. I’m pretending to look into the store windows and get exercise, but in reality I’m glancing out of the corner of my eye at people- not doing a good enough job unfortunately, I wish I had eyes in the back of my head sometimes. I notice people are giving me glances occasionally when I get near them (within about 5-6 feet), and when I pass them many of them turn their heads and watch me, seemingly more than usual when I walk around in “plain clothes” (eg, not wearing anything distinctive like a motorcycle jacket). I walk past an older woman who is a janitor cleaning the floor. She takes notice of me, stops working and raises he head and watches me for a second or two. I notice many glances, especially from women walking alone- women with children don’t seem to notice me as much, but neither do they seem to be disturbed by me at all. One woman in a pantsuit, perhaps early 40’s, gives me a glance. I turn my head to try and make eye contact, but she looks away quickly as soon as I do. She seems to then pace me for a half minute, staying slightly behind me and to my left, then turns and walks away towards a store. I have the distinct feeling she was intrigued by me in some way but reluctant to approach me, but maybe I’m wrong on this one

First place I go is into a bookstore. I browse around a bit, pretending to look at books and magazines, only not doing the greatest job- I don’t know what to look at, so I go the magazines. I’m worried people might start noticing the fact I have no real “shopping agenda” . I look over the magazines but my mind seems a little blank. I’m standing there browsing through Time and a woman walks up behind me, hovers around for about 3 seconds and seems to glance at me, glances at the magazines, then walks away. A little girl and her mother walk past me. The mother looks at me for a moment while walking, as does the girl. I only see this out of the corner of my eye, as I have my head buried in a magazine.

I notice a stench on me, very faint but clear, I can smell the androstenone- something is up because that’s all I seem to smell- it’s no longer subdued enough to harmonize with the cologne. I now realize this is what I was smelling yesterday, and the neroli component was quite subdued- the pheros were accenting the top note.

My cover scent might not be good enough- granted I have a keen nose but why take a chance? I go into the bathroom and give myself another spritz or two of cologne, plus another spray of the mix (remeber it’s diluted) for good measure and wait a minute for it to die down. I leave the bathroom and decide to get coffee, walk up to the counter, and wait a few seconds. A young minority woman walks up to the register. I cannot honestly tell if she is black or Hispanic as she has no accent- perhaps she is Puerto Rican ancestory or mixed race. She comes straight up to the counter and says “How can I help you?” I make eye contact for a moment, and her eyes do not divert- I look away before she does, and look at the coffee machine, then look back at her eyes just so I won’t look too intense. She looks cheery and has a mild smile on her face. I order coffee, and while the dialogue would be quite ordinary, the tone I sensed in her voice was mildly enthusiastic, as if she were pleased in some way to see me. She was quite polite and in return, so was I. No real chitchat, though. I sit down and drink coffee. People walk past me to the book section, and seem to take only slight notice of me.

I get up and leave, go home, wash off. About 15 minutes later, I feel drained and sensitive, for some reason. Superman just has his clothes ripped off and there’s Clark Kent underneath. I get a phone call and I feel like I am being berated with every neutral statement, the tone of a person’s voice is amplified, but I try to remain calm and collected (and do, but I still feel wierd). It is a mild feeling that last a short while, I am exhausted and just want to sit and drink a coke. I sit down and rest, and within a few minutes the feeling starts to pass and I return to normal. Very wierd. I get a call back, here I am sans pheromones. I tell the guy "you know, you are really short and curt with people. A little politeness, “please” and “thank you” smooth over everything. " He says “oh, yeah… you are right I guess”. Hmm… I stood up to somebody even without pheros.

Now, as I said, I cannot adequately convey the nuances of my experiences through text. However, I found the treatment I got from everybody I interacted with today had markedly more respect or interest than what I normally see. Perhaps I will try using less Alter Ego and more Instant Honesty soon (I wish I had Intant Gentleman to try out, but it’s in the mail). I also will try small talk soon, actively engaging with people. I went by the game stores but none of the female clerks were there (the easiest place for me to engage in small talk), and the mix today probably wasn’t ideal for talking to men, though yesterday I seemed to have good success doing so, today I felt a certain wariness or intimidation from men for some reason- they tended to back off a little if I got even near them, a sense of unease.

I got some more pipettes and vials from a fragrance supply and may decant the sprays into the vials so I can more easily alter the mix on the go. Seems like a better idea than trying to guess before hand, and would allow trials in isolation from each other, yet still allow for full effect testing. Also, Alter Ego probably is not such a great base as I’m probably giving off too many vibes and already have a “lone wolf” thing going on- I believe Perception might be better in this regard (androstenol is the largest component), as would something like A314 or the MX spray version (which I ordered to try out, not here yet).

[PhatSounds]

Great Report Daedelus It look like you are getting a lot of responses there. Btw, don’t think that you have not done a good job as i noticed you say a lot about that in your report, just believe in yourself that you have done a good job & have confidence in yourself. Ok reps for you on your report

[denec]

Great writing skills!, you kept me intrigued!

reps on the way, it seems you got some good hits there

I do not know enough about those other products you mentioned, so cannot help there, but i think all you need to do is just open with some conversation

[terry0400-40]

@Daedelus76

I realized I forgot to tell a little bit about myself in past observational experiments. So here it is.

I’m 5’8, 32 years old (I look younger), heavy build, brown hair and goatee+moustache, some muscles, 15 lbs. “overweight”, not athletic build- stout. My ancestory is 90 percent caucasian (WASP + French/German), 10 percent American Indian, no tribal affiliation, and have a light olive skin tone. Short legs, medium-long arms, long neck, sloping shoulders, medium heavy jaw, not too much chin. I have nystagmus and esotropia but I can control it most of the time and see with both eyes, and I wear glasses (I prefer small, thin oval frames). I have mildly epicanthic folds on my eyes, which is unusual for a caucasian, so I look a little exotic, and I also have small brown pigments in the whites of my eyes on the far corners (usually not visible), again, something that is normally seen only in Asians -and no, my mother did not sleep with an Asian man, honest (I grow facial hair like crazy- and definitely smell like a caucasian, for one thing), but otherwise my eyes are the same as the rest of my family’s- slightly almond shaped.

Location is Central Florida. It is quite hot here this time of year and only gets hotter. The heat is relatively dry at 50-60 percent humidity- relatively dry for Florida standards. People here range from uptight to layed back, many are nervous, stressed out, indifferent or jerks. It is a tought area to live in as wages are low and houses cost alot of money. Crime is relatively high.

OK, today I used the same mix I used yesterday- a base of inexpensive cologne, Alter Ego (blend of pheros skewed toward androstenone), plus equal parts 2x Instant Shine, 2x Instant Openness, Instant Female Magic- and I added a touch of Instant Honesty and diluted the strength somewhat so there is less Alter Ego influencing the 4 ml vial now (I would just throw out the batch, but I hate to waste it). Also, I’m wearing a small amount of Perception as well. I give myself 6 sprays, it’s very diluted and I just smell lightly of cologne and don’t smell the pheros much.

I walk around the mall with confidence, and a certain giddiness I attribute to the wicked delight of having a secret that cannot be shared. I’m also a bit nervous at the same time- will people suspect? Will I get freaked out? Social anxiety is entirely gone. I feel great, in control.

First thing I do is walk up and down the mall a few times. I’m pretending to look into the store windows and get exercise, but in reality I’m glancing out of the corner of my eye at people- not doing a good enough job unfortunately, I wish I had eyes in the back of my head sometimes. I notice people are giving me glances occasionally when I get near them (within about 5-6 feet), and when I pass them many of them turn their heads and watch me, seemingly more than usual when I walk around in “plain clothes” (eg, not wearing anything distinctive like a motorcycle jacket). I walk past an older woman who is a janitor cleaning the floor. She takes notice of me, stops working and raises he head and watches me for a second or two. I notice many glances, especially from women walking alone- women with children don’t seem to notice me as much, but neither do they seem to be disturbed by me at all. One woman in a pantsuit, perhaps early 40’s, gives me a glance. I turn my head to try and make eye contact, but she looks away quickly as soon as I do. She seems to then pace me for a half minute, staying slightly behind me and to my left, then turns and walks away towards a store. I have the distinct feeling she was intrigued by me in some way but reluctant to approach me, but maybe I’m wrong on this one

First place I go is into a bookstore. I browse around a bit, pretending to look at books and magazines, only not doing the greatest job- I don’t know what to look at, so I go the magazines. I’m worried people might start noticing the fact I have no real “shopping agenda” . I look over the magazines but my mind seems a little blank. I’m standing there browsing through Time and a woman walks up behind me, hovers around for about 3 seconds and seems to glance at me, glances at the magazines, then walks away. A little girl and her mother walk past me. The mother looks at me for a moment while walking, as does the girl. I only see this out of the corner of my eye, as I have my head buried in a magazine.

I notice a stench on me, very faint but clear, I can smell the androstenone- something is up because that’s all I seem to smell- it’s no longer subdued enough to harmonize with the cologne. I now realize this is what I was smelling yesterday, and the neroli component was quite subdued- the pheros were accenting the top note.

My cover scent might not be good enough- granted I have a keen nose but why take a chance? I go into the bathroom and give myself another spritz or two of cologne, plus another spray of the mix (remeber it’s diluted) for good measure and wait a minute for it to die down. I leave the bathroom and decide to get coffee, walk up to the counter, and wait a few seconds. A young minority woman walks up to the register. I cannot honestly tell if she is black or Hispanic as she has no accent- perhaps she is Puerto Rican ancestory or mixed race. She comes straight up to the counter and says “How can I help you?” I make eye contact for a moment, and her eyes do not divert- I look away before she does, and look at the coffee machine, then look back at her eyes just so I won’t look too intense. She looks cheery and has a mild smile on her face. I order coffee, and while the dialogue would be quite ordinary, the tone I sensed in her voice was mildly enthusiastic, as if she were pleased in some way to see me. She was quite polite and in return, so was I. No real chitchat, though. I sit down and drink coffee. People walk past me to the book section, and seem to take only slight notice of me.

I get up and leave, go home, wash off. About 15 minutes later, I feel drained and sensitive, for some reason. Superman just has his clothes ripped off and there’s Clark Kent underneath. I get a phone call and I feel like I am being berated with every neutral statement, the tone of a person’s voice is amplified, but I try to remain calm and collected (and do, but I still feel wierd). It is a mild feeling that last a short while, I am exhausted and just want to sit and drink a coke. I sit down and rest, and within a few minutes the feeling starts to pass and I return to normal. Very wierd. I get a call back, here I am sans pheromones. I tell the guy "you know, you are really short and curt with people. A little politeness, “please” and “thank you” smooth over everything. " He says “oh, yeah… you are right I guess”. Hmm… I stood up to somebody even without pheros.

Now, as I said, I cannot adequately convey the nuances of my experiences through text. However, I found the treatment I got from everybody I interacted with today had markedly more respect or interest than what I normally see. Perhaps I will try using less Alter Ego and more Instant Honesty soon (I wish I had Intant Gentleman to try out, but it’s in the mail). I also will try small talk soon, actively engaging with people. I went by the game stores but none of the female clerks were there (the easiest place for me to engage in small talk), and the mix today probably wasn’t ideal for talking to men, though yesterday I seemed to have good success doing so, today I felt a certain wariness or intimidation from men for some reason- they tended to back off a little if I got even near them, a sense of unease.

I got some more pipettes and vials from a fragrance supply and may decant the sprays into the vials so I can more easily alter the mix on the go. Seems like a better idea than trying to guess before hand, and would allow trials in isolation from each other, yet still allow for full effect testing. Also, Alter Ego probably is not such a great base as I’m probably giving off too many vibes and already have a “lone wolf” thing going on- I believe Perception might be better in this regard (androstenol is the largest component), as would something like A314 or the MX spray version (which I ordered to try out, not here yet).

Really good post that so many can well relate to.
Personally i am at the stage after years of pheromone use where i do not want to get involved with a female in a sexual relationship no matter how attractive she may be.
I do have many very close friendships with women and girls that could go further if i decided to be unfaithful to my g/f, But she is the greatest and i will give her my all.
But as you do, i also love using and testing these pheromomes because i am a very social person who does study my fellow human beings, and pheromones are an exceptionally effective tool for the use and good times that come from sharing social interactions, and can infact contribute to great harmony and understanding
amoungst us all.
As you have demonstrated there is wisdom in performing covert Phero testing as it lets others have a good look at you if they feel inclined to do so with an amount of freedom with the knowledge that thay are not being observed by you as your attention appears else where.
I have found that i can be very open and blatant when doing the covert testing because the majority of people have their own agendas and dramas goimg on in their lives, so as to not even have a thought of what my business may be when i am doing a test on a new mix or product so may i reccomend that ya dont let this worry you any further, just go about with your own plans and observational strategys and the main thing is to relax and enjoy the work as it is all good, with an occasional negative encounter which is just another happening and nothing personal .
If i feel the need to have a refresher then most times i just have a spray whenever, wherever but doing this will sometimes attract attention and sometimes girls will ask you what you are spraying, Which i always reply with saying it is such and such a cologne with added Androstenone, Androstenol or Rone ect,
I have lost count of the number of times women and girls actually want to hear more on the subject as it seems to fasinate them and they want to learn.

My g/f is aware that i do lots of testing as i discuss it with her whenever she sees my have a talk with a woman or girl, At one time i used to have to explain to my g/f the reason why a man or a girl ect has acted towards me in a dramatic and obviously pheromone effected manner, But now days she has an understanding of whats going on and does not bother.
She is not personally interested in Pheromones and doesant even bother to use the ones i have gifter her with, so if i find out she is attending a seminar or a work related meeting i always try and give her a few good sprays beforehand.
I really appreciate your feedback, So enjoy your testing and dont worry about what others may be thinking, as they are busy with their own worries, wants and insecurities, we can only love them and appreciate them as unique humam beings, just like the unique and great being that you are.

[Daedelus76]

Thanks for the comments. I also posted a Day 6. That will probably be my last for a while.