I want to hear from experienced (or not so experienced) people. Have you ever had pheromones not “work” on somebody, even when you expected they would? An unexpected reaction?
Well for me a couple of pheros products that i used to buy before i joined this forum, i was hoping they would work but turn out scams 
FYI i get zero reaction.
Yes of course. Quality Mones work on some level with most of the people who are exposed to them. Its not always going to be the reaction you expected though. Sometimes its just a small adjustment in a persons attitude or behavior. Most people dont really count that as a hit until they are more experienced with mones and begin to notice certain patterns emerging.
You also have to consider that just like with visual attraction certain people probably have a preferance on the kind of mone sig they are attracted to without even being aware of it.
I Know you read alot of hit stories in the forum but that dosnt mean we get those reactions every single time we wear the mones. Big hits come and go, its the subtle changes you have to learn to see.
Tisha
No, I don’t mean “not work” as in this product is garbage/snake oil- I mean “this product didn’t have the effect I intended” or “this product was ignored by the target, or resulted in a negative experience”
I was reading through old posts and came across a guy named Snakeeyes (In Oz or New Zealand, I believe) describing freaking out somebody with Instant Openness, apparrently he was chatting amicably with a woman and suddenly the woman became uneasy/nervous and demanded he leave her alone. I had a very similar experience with Perception (chatting with a man), which is higher in androstenol (2 parts Androstenol to 1 part none and Androsterone). I believe sometimes people can become aware of the presence of pheromones (not smell, but percieving changes the vibes), and this seems to spook people- especially because they seem to, sometimes, have no problem attributing the situation to you. They look at you like you just put a spell on them or have psychic powers and it’s spooky.
Perhaps it doesn’t work this way on the average person, but I’m suspecting it might have something to do with intelligence or a mental style favoring rationality over emotion, or a deep seated skepticism for authority figures- perhaps these people are less open to hypnotic suggestion as well? Alot of people are very difficult to hypnotize, whereas a few are quite easy- generally these people are more open and trusting in general.
The “target” in question for me was an extremely intelligent man in his 30’s who is highly sceptical by nature and not open to appeals to authority. He and I were engaging in the typical androstenol chit-chat and suddenly became aware of how stupid the conversation was getting, and how much eye contact we were making (alot). Normally we have very heavy, deep conversations about intellectual topics. This guy gave me the freakiest look, like I was on drugs and at the same time I was putting some kind of spell on him (Deer in Headlights, only much more perplexed and thoughtful- a flash of insight) and he verablized the belief that he was starting to become very uneasy with me and the situation
I’m actually putting in an order for some more “Instant” stuff and Experimones (androsterone) just so I can avoid androstenol in certain situations. With somebody you are close to, I am thinking maybe androstenol can induce some rather bizarre/spooky behavior.
Call me crazy but androstenol has always been my go to pheromone. I mean ever since I got into this whole pheromone stuff I have never found a situation that couldn’t be improved by a little 'nols. Alpha androstenol really seems to me to be the safest of all of the pheromones.
But perhaps the problems you are speaking of are less of the androstenol and more of the user; I mean less face it 'Androstenol or not the average hererosexual man will find the thought of gazing into another man’s eyes and conversing for hours a little odd. Pheromones don’t erase deep seated social boundaries, so don’t get all creepy with another man and blame it on the 'nols. When you find your self in a situation like that try leaning back and lessoning up on the eye contact and with a little luck things should go smoothly.
If it were me, I would try it again around the same exact person to see if you get the same reaction. I might even up the dosage a tad, or add a spray of P79 (if you have it). I agree that it was likely the pheromones that elicited this reaction, but I’m not so sure he was consciously aware of it being something emanating from you. Who knows, he could have had beans & rice for lunch and had to remove himself. 
Kidding aside, you just don’t know what was going through his head (or intestines) at that time, so a repeat of the experiment is in order.
That’s just it, though. For some reason I couldn’t stop making so much eye contact. I believe there also was an element of hypnosis/self-suggestion going on, as earlier in the day I had been practicing making more eye contact (with women). I was entering a trance, too, if you have ever done auto-hypnosis you know the sensation. Whenever one of us would talk, the other one would enter a deeper trance and couldn’t focus on the ideas in the other’s speech, just on their eyes or mouth.
Also, I had absolutely no social anxiety at all, which is unusual. Maybe my perception of social boundaries went out the window. My usual personality is somewhat shy, I only make glancing eye contact normally, so my behavior probably seemed strange.
The “experiment” was extremely unnerving. I’d have to work up alot of courage to do it again, at first it was pleasant but after a while it was creepy. To tell you the truth, it was a pretty bad trip and has made me leery of using that pheromone in that particular situation again, at that dosage (over the “regular” dosage of perception- maybe even half a dosage would have been much better). Also, the deep inhalation of the pheromone/cologne mixture (by sitting my chin lazily on my hand) was probably not a good idea- it’s interesting that the other person was not so close to my wrist, though, and still was being affected, or seemed to be.