Experimenting: first tests with Ammo, a girl on the bus kept turning to look at me

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Received my pheromones last Friday, done a few experiments so far.

1 – I started of with “Ammo”, 2 sprays, one on my chest and one on my back. Within a few minutes I was feeling kind of energetic and more aware/in tune. Did not really have a proper venue for the test, was just meeting a friend and going around to another friends place for some beers. But I was taking public transport so that was my target so to speak.

Firstly, I got on a bus, went upstairs to the to deck, the only other person up there was a pretty black girl sitting in the front, I was towards the middle. Throughout the journey, which lasted about 30mins, the aforementioned girl kept turning around and looking at me. Was a bit of a weird look though, not something I have seen much before. Several other females came on the bus throughout the journey, and interestingly enough, all sat down in close proximity to me, coincidence or not, who knows.

Couple of more reactions, one of my friends was quite quiet around me and kept his distance, usually does not act like that. Also, met another friend of a friend, who seemed to go out of his way to be overly friendly with me, thought that was a bit strange. Will need to experiment further.

Also, noticed that I was a lot more “in the hunt” mood so to speak, when a nice girl was around.

2 – Once again, two sprays of “Ammo”, on my chest and one on my back. Venue, firstly public transport, then quiet bar. On the underground, noticed some strange reactions from men, i.e. keeping their distance. Did not notice much in women’s behaviour, except the one’s near me seemed quite comfortable, more than what I would expect, and one pretty young Spanish looking girl kept looking at me longer than what is normal.

The bar was pretty quiet, except for a group of Spanish people, 4 young ladies and a bloke. We sat at the table behind them and one of the girls sitting closest to us, kept turning around with interest, though she would alternate looking at me and my friend. Some of her friends kept glancing over as well, but was not paying too much attention to notice anything significant. Was concentrating more on my beer.

3- Trying out Instant Shine today at the office. Put on 2 sprays, one on chest, one on back. Put it on in the morning, felt a bit uplifting. Not noticed any effects as of yet. The day is still young. Not too sure what I should be looking for though. I guess just general friendliness. Will update if I notice anything.

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Following on to the above No.3, people in the office did get chattier as the boss left, more chattier than usual, plus a different kind of eye contact from the secretary, not too sure what to make of it. Also, find that I am more chattier and relaxed, but only with people I wish to talk to.

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It’s interesting that Ammo causes an alpha male effect on the wearer, but I wonder why some of your male friends shied away while others became more friendly?

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Yeah, thought about it too… I was thinking that the dude that shied away, is someone who knows me well, there is always some competition between us anyway, maybe this just made him feel uncomfortable, submissive.

The dude that was friendly, I only just me that night, so maybe the Ammo gave him an Alpha type impression of me, and since he did not know me, he wanted to know me better, i.e. as an ally as opposed to competitor.

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people react to the “alpha” differently,men and women.
both can shy away from the alpha depending on how they view someone more dominant than themselves.
some will be attracted to the alpha, some will be quieter. more willing to please/ be friendly.

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4 – I put on 3 sprays of MX203 (for men) today before going to work. Initial reaction was that it woke me up from being knackered, very quickly, much more so than a coffee. Then I really felt drawn to the smell of it, I felt like when I would concentrate on smelling it, I would blank out from any distractions. Whereas when I would consciously avoid smelling it , I would become very intent on something, could not figure out what. Either way I think the smell and the effects of smelling are great, they are nothing I can put my finger on but kind of addictive. I’m thinking it could be used to keep someone close to you for the duration of the effects. Not really sure what else to look for. Have not noticed many reactions from other people yet, except the secretary was a bit closer than usual.

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Played around some more with MX203 when I got home. Put one spray on my shirt and played some chess online, played better than usual, felt really relaxed yet focused at the same time. Did some meditation with another spray on my shirt, once again felt very relaxed and nicely focused. I think I was kind of becoming attached to it, so one more spray and off to bed to see what effects it had on my dreams. Fell asleep very quick, though that may have been due to meditation. Dreams were pleasant and vivid, though I woke up an hour too early and could not get back to sleep. I love the way that stuff smell though.

Going to Liverpool over the weekend, staying at a mates who lives with 4-5 other people, so will have plenty of test subjects! :slight_smile:

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Hey Djigit thanks for the detailed posts!

Regarding the composition of MX203, it does contain large amounts of the putative pheromone P93:
Forum Member Freebie Coupons 12/12/06 - 12/18/06 - P93 mix for men and A314 for Women
Jasmin: “The first pheromone test mix you get is MX203.This is heavy P93 based mix Michael made last week. Has lots of Alpha Androstenol and TAA, too. Comes in a base of what we’ve been calling our “PheroGame” cologne or Fragrance #6, which has similar notes to Cool Water, Unforgivable, Green Irish Tweed, etc. It’s a simple, but bazooka like mix.”

Can you please remember to fill us in on your results with both males and females with MX203 in Liverpool…

Visionary

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Hey Visionary, thanks for the info. Unfortunately, I only took Ammo and Instant Shine with me on my weekend trip, still a beginner, so wanted to see how the documented stuff works first. Will definitely get to MX203 and MX204 soon, its too much fun not too.

5 – Started of with 2 sprays of Ammo and 2 Sprays of IS. Made my way to the station and hopped on a train. The seat were all allocated so I sat down and waited for a test subject to sit next to me, was hoping for a pretty girl, instead got a big African dude, who did not really fit in the seat so was kind of overflowing it no my chair. Said hello to the guy and proceeded to listen to my tunes. After a few min, the African guy went and got himself a travel size bottle of wine and upon coming back he offered me some, I declined and went back to listening to my tunes. Then he tapped me on the shoulder and struck up a random conversation, so I figured may as well see what the phero effects are.

Chatted to him about work, stress, meditation a sport. Then I specifically started talking to him about talking to strangers and general friendliness of strangers. Eventually, he started telling me that he never initiates conversations with people he does not know and told me he does not know why he started talking to me. This was the sort of info I was looking for, I guess the IS really worked on him. I eventually told him about the pheromones and where to go, he seemed really interested, so there may be a new customer soon.

Couple hours later, train arrived at its destination and I made my way to my friends house. The house is occupied by 3 girls and 3 guys, two pairs of which are items so to speak. When I got to the house only one of the girls (she has a boyfriend) was home, so we had a drink and chatted for a while, she was very open and made a lot of eye contact. Later other folk started turning up and everyone was really friendly towards me, nothing worth noting really happened and we all drank and talked in to the early hours of the morning.

The next day, I used the same combo and same dosage. Just a note, all 6 people from the house work in the same restaurant on varying shifts, so on Saturday they all went to work around afternoon time, and one by one started coming back to wards the evening/night time. I was staying in the living room so spent most my time there. When all the folk, one by one started coming back, something really interesting started happening.

The first girl (has a boyfriend) came back around 7 pm, straight away she offered me some booze and we sat in the living room and had some wine. She was extremely open and friendly and we talked non stop for a few hours about various philosophical and personal topics, once again plenty of IOI. She then had to go do some work on her PC, and left me alone. 15 mins later another girl (has boyfriend) came home, same thing, offered me a drink and we proceeded to talk about various topics, once again plenty of IOI. Then the third girl (no boyfriend) came back from work and all three were now in the living room chatting to me, was very weird as they all seemed interested, and very chatty. Slowly one by one the boyfriends and my friend started showing up and we ended up having a small party. Was not particularly attracted to the boyfriend-less girl, so did not pursue. Towards the end of the party as people started going to their rooms to crash, one of the girls which has a boyfriend, in his absence, asked me if she could come visit me in London and stay at my place, she is pretty hot, so I said “for sure”.

The last day, I once again went with the same combo and dosage. Girls were again behaving in a very friendly and chatty manner, and as they slowly filtered off to work two of the one’s with boyfriends were very touchy and affectionate in saying their goodbyes.

My friend had a day off so he took me out to show me around town. Went to the Beatles museum and visited various other landmarks around Liverpool, nothing notable really happened there. Towards the evening we went to a restaurant, where we were served by a pretty blond waitress. She seemed really mesmerised wherever we spoke, and at one point even started to drool. As you can imagine, I laughed my ass off at that, and she was quite embarrassed.

After dinner, my friend dropped me off at the train station and I made my way back to London. Train was pretty empty, so nothing to report there. Upon arrival, I got on a bus and headed home, some relay blatant IOI from two really pretty Latino looking girls on the bus and that’s about that.

Overall impressions for the weekend. The girls that I interacted with were all giving of IOI, and were very friendly and chatty. The guys were just friendly and kind of submissive to my suggestions, i.e. verbally non confrontational.

The self effects that I notice from Ammo are that it makes me more confident and puts me in a “pick up chicks” type mode. Whereas IS makes me very open, friendly and smile a lot more, which I think further enhances the effects of Ammo.

I’m really enjoying observing and playing with these pheromones, gives a whole new dynamic to social situations. I feel like my sense of smell is becoming more acute, when I walk past people on the street I sometimes seem to catch whiffs of their scents and try to analyze the sort of feeling their scent invokes in me. Really interesting stuff.

Couple of questions:

  • Any suggestions for test scenarios for MX203 and MX204? I’m thinking MX203 in friendly social situation. MX204 for a “pick up chicks” type situation.

  • I have noticed that despite, scrubbing myself down thoroughly in the shower to remove any pheros, I still seem to be able to smell the scent on myself. Any suggestions on how to take the stuff off. I’m quite a hairy monkey, and it seems that my chest hair in particular has really absorbed the scent. I’m not sure if its just the scent or the actual pheros though, anyway I’m confused on this issue.

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Djigit,
MX203 is definitely fine for any situation I think given its primary pheromones are friendly and bright (although P93 is a little bit more of an unknown quantity). I am not sure about MX204-do a forum search on that one maybe to see what it contains and any results from it so far.

For removing pheros, they say an anti-androgen soap may work (or was that just anti-androgen shampoo?)… Do a search - I think PheroQuirk recommended it saying he was getting much more consistent results with it because it removed the mones properly. Anyway he is London-based so he may be able to recommend you a brand in the UK.

Visionary

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Now regarding MX204… see the following…

Forum Member Freebie Coupons 12/12/06 - 12/18/06 - P93 mix for men and A314 for Women?

Jasmin:"2. The second pheromone test mix you get is MX204. This is 12.5mcg of experimental pheromone TAK. A few users have TAK already, but not enough. This one comes in a light Neroli (sophisticated orange) cover scent.

When talking about the TAK with Neroli, feel free to call it either “12.5mcg of TAK in Neroli” OR MX204. It’s up to you.

Included fragrance molecules do affect pheromonal dispersion and social outcomes, which is one reason we’re calling this part of the “Mix” (MX) series.. Also, it helps us keep everything organized by assigning an MX number to these."

Now TAK in my opinion doesn’t do too much on its own other than relax people and help make people more comfortable with you. It is a good add on if you wear too much Androstenone I would say or even too much A314/MX102. TAK is useful for the Clint Eastwood Effect if you have problems with that (I do). Too much though without a counterbalance (like A314/MX102 or Androstenone) and you may be seen as too ‘weak’.

Anyway hope that helps and I look forward to hearing your experiences, especially with MX203 because I feel that P93 has been forgotten about for too long!

Visionary

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Thanks for the info Visionary, much appreciated! :slight_smile:

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I saw that effect once, or at least once, 3 sprays of Mx141 with 3 sprays of P83 and a guy talked to me like he knew me. He was too friendly.

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when people are that friendly towards you it appears they see you as an equal. i love it when that happens. unless they are crabby. then i dont want to be equal to a crab :smiley:

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I seem to remember a post by tacitus about finally discovering the sexual nature of TAK, but haven’t found it searching …

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I agree.. Yesterday I used a mixture of Spaceland with IS & mutant A314, but I didn’t find any target women in the place I was in. Only some old guys who began to laugh like crazy eventually. It was fun at least…

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A couple of new experiments.

6 – I was planning a vacation, so needed to take some time of work. I work for a small company and my boss can be a bit tight with leave. So, before going to work I sprayed myself with 3 blasts of IS, and made my way. I purposely kept going to see the boss for various trivial reasons and engaging in some random banter, he was in turn chatting away, smiling and laughing. My idea was to get him to have a positive feeling towards me before I ask for my leave. Later on in the day I went to see him again with my leave request form, got my leave as planned, no problem, no criticism, all good, even wished me a good time. Worked like a charm!

7 – Had one of my friends around my place yesterday, he brought some weed with him. We smoked a joint and sat around talking bollocks, as you do. I already told this guy about my experiments and let him try some out. He’s particularly interested in something that will enhance his acting auditions, I’m thinking A314, I assume he’ll be making an appearance around here sometime soon. Anyway, I decided to spray us both with some MX203 and see what the effects were. 2 Sprays each later, we were both feeling very chilled, almost too chilled, to the point that neither of us could even be bothered talking, we kind of forced a conversation and then decided to let things pan out naturally. End result, he played a video game for an hour and I did some tai chi and meditation.

I must say this stuff can really, really chill me out, great for mediation type stuff, not too great for conversation, though that may be the weed, but than again weed usually makes both of us chatter away like mad. Will test gain soon.

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Hey Djigit,

Wow! I’m so miffed that I missed this post. This is way good. :slight_smile:

I had a person some years ago, before the age of the consumer products and the Instant Line, while Androtics was still a silent manufacturer, call me up and request a sample of Beta-nol.

Every week he would call in, asking for more exorbitant concentrations of it, ever stronger, always pushing the envelope on how much pheromone we could dissolve into a diluent without it precipitating.

Finally, I asked him if he was a reseller? No way! He used these deep deep concentrations of Beta nol to Meditate! He told me that it propelled him into planes he has never been able to experience otherwise. It’s intriguing. This was many years ago - we have even more mindmelding molecules available today.

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Oh! Have your actor friend call me. I’m so curious! Being in Hollywood I’m constantly referred to actors, from actors, building perfect mixes both for getting the part AND getting into character after you’ve gotten the part.

Actually, I get REALLY excited when I see these pheromones play their subtle pheromone magic on screen, because I must be one of the only people on earth knowing what is driving the chemistry behind some of these seminal television and film scenes. “Oh, teehee… she’s wearing Instant Sexiness Mix A right now and you can TOTALLY tell by the inflection in her voice and eyebrows!!”

It’s such a friggin pity that NO ONE IN THIS TOWN will let me disclose WHO is using WHAT! It’s THAT much of a coveted technology here! :roll_eyes:

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Hey Jasmin,

That’s some interesting stuff, I thought I was the only weirdo using it to meditate. :slight_smile: I gotta say it works very well. One of the most interesting things I find, is that it seems to turn off all the unnecessary thought processes that normally take away one’s focus from meditation. Makes things much quicker and easier. I’m sure this stuff would have some great uses via diffuser in a tai chi/yoga/meditation class. People/students would be like, “wow, that class was deep!”, may have to try this out at some point, would help people achieve greater results and good for business too.

I’ll definitely get my actor friend to get in touch, I’m sure he would love to hear your advice and opinions. Though, I must say, not sure if most actors are like this, but all the one’s I know are fun but unpredictable, so who knows when he’ll actually get around to it, I’ll keep pushing him though. Must be loads of potential applications for this in the acting industry, chemistry literally meaning chemistry. I love it! :smiley:

Its great how pheromones open you up to a whole new level of information and experience that most people are unaware of.

Was, wondering, can a lot of pheromone use make one more resistant to its effects? Or would it be that one is merely more used to the feeling, so the change is not as profound? Maybe both possibilities are one and the same..:confused:

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Thanks for the info Djigit and Jasmin ! I am too wondering about the direct effect of pheromones on the wearer. A lot of people have been commenting on Instant Shine and Spaceland having a direct noticable effect on them.

Would there be a combination (other than what Djigit) of pheros that would help relaxing not only for meditation but purely to help with sleeping disorders ? I have a hard time falling asleep sometimes so anything that could help out would be awesome.

Thanks