So i’m curious to know if anybody has gathered information on the Experimone Series pheromones. I’ve been doing some searching but have only found inconclusive (and sometimes contradictory) testimony as to their uses and effects.
I think an attempt should be made to condense some of the testimony out there on these particular products. A description of these products on the main page would also be greatly appreciated.
Umm..why the heck did you link to Love Scent’s VERY OWN Pherolibrary, when he is asking about Androtics’ Experimone series?
In answer to the original question: Before anybody else gets short with you and tells you this in NOT such a nice way, THAT is what the search function is for.
We ALL had to use it at the start. There is TONS of data available here on the forums, but you need to be prepared to look for it yourself. Search by POST, not thread, and that will give you a lot more info.
Well Ail. It’s because pherolibrary has very detailed information about the molocules in the experimone series. It’s an information database that is a great resource, and it saves this new member a lot of time picking through contradictory data (as he found an abundance of this).
If you read, he also wanted to make a thread where people could post factual information about the experimones to create resoruce thread, "
…to condense some of the testimony out there on these particular products."
Pherolibrary doesn’t say anything about those, but then again, the posts on some of those are either contradictory or inconclusive at best. Some, like TAA, are well-defined, but some of the others are nebulous. Don’t even get me started on the putatives…
We spent MONTHS posting the results on TAH and TAL for example, so it was concluded they are categorically female pheromones - used by some males here in masculine mixes.
WE spent time posting about the results and bought into the products knowing NOTHING about what they would offer - if anything - just as we do for the Putatives, so now people better get off their lazy arses and LOOK for the damn info.
However the Pheromone Library sports excellent info about the common pheromones such as androstenone, androsterone, androstenol and A-1. And these are sold in the Experimone series as well as by many others. Learning about these pheromones on forums is can be about as clear as mud, sorta like listening to hundreds of conversations and trying to construct a meaningful synopsis of all the topics. Not very easy or accurate. The Pheromone Library is a great place to start.
Mouse over each one for some background information.
Unfortunately many of the TA series and Putative Pheromones are highly experimental, and don’t have any well defined explanation of effects, if any explanation at all. These type of products warrant a quite a bit of personal experimentation, and yes quite a bit of risk.
I do think that a collection of the results with them so far would be helpful though, just to catalog our findings. At the same time, its probably best if these are tested without prior knowledge, so that pre-existing expectations don’t bias results. I think that was their intention anyway
erik, this will require doing what alot of people who have created stickies and compilations did-
read.
read.
read.
use the search and record when people get similar reactions.
the forum is full of posts, and those that cant remember some good posts may not have ventured into the womens forum.
there is a good reason there is not alot of conclusive info on the putatives…
i also dont think copying another forums info, although very helpful for the new-to-pheros people, would enhance or benefit our forum.
(not implying that was the intent, but it would be uncool)
i think Ail’s advice would enhance your knowledge of androtics all together, shes been around here almost a year
The pherolibrary site will give you good solid info on the individual pheromones that go into the mixes and individual Experimones.
However, for the actual effects of the mixes, commercial products, Experimones experimental molecules (like TAA, TAF, etc), and putatives from Androtics, you’re going to need to search this forum.
There are some threads on this forum aimed at collecting info for example of TAF, TAK, etc (I know because I started them), and discusssions of the various Experimones, product, putatives, etc. for them you can do both a thread and post search. Try both types of searches and see what works for what YOU want.
You will also find some specific forum users are big on testing, reporting on, and discussing certain lines so you can search for threads or posts from them too (eg tacitus). M&M will sometimes create “summary” threads as well, pulling scattered but related posts together. (Takes a lot of time and is appreciated…)
I do think that a collection of the results with them so far would be helpful though, just to catalog our findings…
Well, well… my hat is off to you, Sigma…!!! You’re one of the few on this thread that is using his/her brain…I agree with you 100%…“A COLLECTION OF THE RESULTS PEOPLES EXPERIENCES WITH THE PHEROMONES WOULD BE HELPFUL”.
A thread for each Pheromone being sold and tested that reflects the results that people have experienced should be the standard on this site. One thread per product…or list the product and categorize what people experience withIn the thread. The way this site is set up now…is too hap-hazard…willy nilly…hunt and search. Today you find something about a product that may help…then you spend money for it…and tomorrow you find something that leads you to believe that what you bought will have your dog telling you to kill people…This is not a good thing…unless of course all of this pheromone stuff is fake and none of it does anything but empty your wallet of hard earned money that you could use for counseling or or beer or something..
I don’t know about everyone else on this site…but I’m not made of money…I have to do some thinking before I spend money on stuff like this…if I think it works…I buy…If I don’t get enough information on the stuff…they can keep it and spray it on the dogs butt.
Well, well…I dock my hat, my hat is off to you, Sigma…!!! You’re one of the few on this thread that is using his/her brain…I agree with you 100%…“A COLLECTION OF THE RESULTS WITH THE PHEROMONES WOULD BE HELPFUL”… It should be the standard on this site.
I dont know about everyone else on this site…but I’m not made of money…I have to do some thinking before I spend money on stuff like this…if it works…I buy…If I dont get enough informaiton on the stuff…they can keep it and spray it on the dogs butt.
Well in Androtics’ defense, the experimone series and putatives aren’t ‘commercial’ products…they’re experimental products intended for users who are willing to take the personal and financial risk of buying something and having it not work out. I have a couple of bottles of pheromones that get very little use nowadays, but I bought them knowing the risks involved, and don’t really fret it. They were relatively cheap anyway. Most of the people that buy the putatives and experimones buy them, knowing they just might not work.
The idea behind the experimone and putative series pheromones is to provide as little information as possible when they are initially released. This eliminates any bias created by pre-programmed expectations, and allows us to more accurately find the results ourselves.
I only mentioned pooling our findings so we could more easily track our individual results with the experimone and putative pheromones.
The commercial products (ie Instant Line and A314) do have a great deal of background information on their supposed effects, and carry the full guarantee.
Well in Androtics’ defense, the experimone series and putatives aren’t ‘commercial’ products…they’re experimental products intended for users who are willing to take the personal and financial risk of buying something and having it not work out. I have a couple of bottles of pheromones that get very little use nowadays, but I bought them knowing the risks involved, and don’t really fret it. They were relatively cheap anyway. Most of the people that buy the putatives and experimones buy them, knowing they just might not work.
The idea behind the experimone and putative series pheromones is to provide as little information as possible when they are initially released. This eliminates any bias created by pre-programmed expectations, and allows us to more accurately find the results ourselves.
I only mentioned pooling our findings so we could more easily track our individual results with the experimone and putative pheromones…More for the purposes of tracking experimentation
The commercial products (ie Instant Line and A314) do have a great deal of background information on their supposed effects, and carry the full guarantee.
Where is “the idea around putative and experimetives” written on this site? I have not seen it anywhere. If it’s here, it should be in BIG BOLD BRIGHT RED LETTERS for those of us who are not working towards a degree in psychology to view and read.