As I read over this thread I am struck by the similarities between the sexes more than the differences.
OK, so much for my bewildered rant.
On to the interesting stuff. Diane, thank you very much. I had no idea about the Skene’s gland. Any idea how many women actually have 'em? And they would grow/open up with execise, swelling with fluid right? Like most erectile tissue grows, even in the flaccid state, with regular exercise. Men can occasionally have multiple ejaculations. Is it possible for women? If I understand the illustrations, this is directly behind the Grafenberg spot. Is that true? Yet it is possible to stimulate the G-spot into a vaginal orgasm without causing ejaculation. If that’s all true then, then ejaculation needs a very firm stroking of the G-spot, a deep tissue massage. Is that how you would describe it?
Brunnette, as to your sex sermon; Hallalujah! I feel ya babe. Reps. I’m thinking about putting this one in my signature block;
But maybe not. Some people are offended by our avocation. There’s no sense in throwing it up in their faces. Because of their social conditioning, they have no way to understand transcendent ecstacic sexuality. The less that we argue with and mock those who have no way to understand our fascination with sexuality, the less they will intrude on our passionate pursuits. And the more quickly they will leave when they do manage to stumble into our camp. Let them say their piece and go on their merry way.
Domnk, thanks for reminding me about the Kegel exercise. I had forgotten about it for the last several months and I find that in just a few months the muscles have lost considerable strength. General exercise is a great thing, but none of it even comes close to working that muscle group. You can’t take any of that for granted as the years go on. lol
BTW: Dom, the quote "All the pheromones in the world aren’t going to help you rock a woman’s world because you can’t think outside the box around your cock. " belongs to the new kid BrunetteBeauty in her original post.
Dom, I know you’re bashful but if you could just explain (spell out?) the acronym KSMO, we’ll do our homework and get back to ya.
Well, if all men were awesome lovers, there wouldn’t be such thing as an “awesome lover”…
Besides, it takes 2 to tango. The moment you realise your effort MUST equal ours, perhaps things will get better and better. Just because it is way easier to sexually satisfy a man, that doesn’t mean you don’t need to put some pride or some extra quality in the way you do it.
With that being said, I love pleasing my partners, but I’ve noticed in the last 8 years that the more beautiful or the hotter the girl I’m with, the more likely she is to be expecting me to do all the work. That’s a shame…
NOTE: By “you”, I am refering to women… not you in particular, Diane! 
Oh, must have forgotten to do that 
KSMO (Key Sound Multiple Orgasm).. I can move past bashfulness, it’s just a little embarrassment I suppose :o
Here is an interview with Jack Johnston (Creator\author), explaining the method. Jack Johnston_Male Multiple Orgasm.
Only issue though with the KSMO method, it’s expensive! I didn’t actually realize this, I got my CD as a gift. It’s worth it though. They even have there own forum, yep, another forum 
. This is the CD Male Multiple Orgasm Step by Step (4th Edition) by Jack Johnston. Price is from $70-$130, yikes!
I have found that this article, Sex and Breath, helps alot in conjunction with that method. And this is interesting method as well, definitely more ‘hands on’ though, Male multiple orgasms - The Tao (Not the KSMO forum).
Dominick
My sympathies go to couples who are sexually mismatched. Especially those who are otherwise trying so hard to maintain a relationship.
You need to keep looking.
I think we’re trying to talk about those of us who have gotten past the inequality of men and women. The discussion here is about sexual ecstasy. Something that is well beyond the inequity that you refer to.
OoohYahhh
Garbage in. Garbage out. If you think sexually arousing a woman to the extreme is a chore..I’m sure she will start thinking spreading her legs for you is a chore too. Which is fine and dandy for random hook-ups and one night stands..because seriously guys, what makes a one night stand, a one night stand? The fact that that it wasn’t good enough to do twice.
haahahahaha I 'm funny.
A true connoisseur of female orgasm..isn’t your run-of-the-mill-sex-partner. He gets great sexual satisfaction seeing a woman in the state of no return. He stays up night pondering ways to take her deeper, pull her under, make her cum harder, get her there using different methods. Like a coffee or wine connoisseur, he rates and categories her orgasms and responses. He studies her reactions, he names her scents and consistency of her vaginal secretions. lol This is his passion and he takes it seriously. This sort of man gets intense sexual enjoyment being responsible for her intense pleasure and watching her in the throes of ecstasy. He also knows another secret. When you get a woman into this frenzy, ecstatic state of arousal, she can’t help but desire to satisfy you. She gets in a total primal state. She will worship every inch of your body, truly lust for your cock, try about anything because she is truly in heat. When you get a taste supernatural sex, you don’t EVER want to go back to spaghettios and happy meals. I’d rather abstain then waste one night having mediocre sex with a subpar partner.
If you want a woman to be the dirtiest of dirty lovers,to be willing to explore the wildest of fantasies, to take sexual risks…you must be a true inspiration. This isn’t about love, and romance and i’s dotted with hearts. You don’t have to LOVE somebody to experience this level of sexuality, although that too can heighten it very much. There IS a level of expertise and PERCEPTIVENESS involved here. Some men have it..others don’t. Good part is.. men can be taught this..men can learn through experience IF he has the desire to learn and takes great pleasuring in learning and pleasuring. Women don’t just stumble across this part of them. They find through sexual discovery, trial and error and hours and hours of exploration. I think for most women, to reeeally go nuts and start dabbling with highly charged play, power exchange, kinkier stuff there has to be a great level of trust. You don’t just do that stuff with everybody…you don’t even want to. There really has to be a level of trust involved to be that decadent with somebody.
For a man to be a prolific lover he really has to want to be one and love arousing a woman. But you know maybe not all women have the desire for this kind of experience. I can’t pretend to know what every woman wants. But I’m willing to wager that a woman’s desire for sex and LOTS of it, her enthusiasm for the kinkier and wilder sides of sex, her lust for your dick and to pleasure it, her desire to aggressively instigate sex with you will hugely increase when her world is absolutely rocked by you. If you’re 20 years old, nobody expects you to know all this yet. 20 year old girls still have lots to learn about their own bodies and you have a lot to learn about a women’s body. Just don’t pigeon hole yourself into thinking what you are doing now..is good enough and is all there is.. BECAUSE IT ISN’T. If you continue to fuck like your 18 when your in your 30’s, you have nobody but yourself to blame when your wife begrudges you 15 minutes of weekly saturday night sex.
Furthermore, boys. Male orgasm can be much more profound than most men have experienced, but you have to have an open mind, patience and be adventurous…you have to be the type willing to go on a sexual journey…get over your ass hang-ups, your self-conceived notions, your fear of the unknown and threats to your masculinity..you have to think outside the box. There are orgasm and levels of sexual intensity that exist to be explored, multiple orgasms, orgasms so intense you squirm like a little girl, tears come to your eyes, orgasm that last longer than you ever dreamt possible and all kinds of variation and levels of orgasm intensity.
IF you are the type of guy who finds what we are talking about annoying and a chore…probability is…you haven’t got the patience or the mindset to even achieve this kind of orgasm in yourself or a partner.
Guys are always asking the question…how to make a girl kinkier, hornier and want to fuck more often and dabble into wilder and crazier fantasy fulfillment. I’m telling you how to get them there. If you don’t want to do the work…if the work doesn’t titiliate you, that’s your tough luck.
I must agree, I love spending time on my wife’s body and making sure she receives satisfaction. I also REALLY do love seeing my wife get off, so definitely not a chore for me.
Hey! Maybe there are actually people in the world who would prefer to drive a volkswagon bus than a XJ-jaguar with a turbocharged engine. You never know what people are going to be comfortable with.
But me, I like my XJ! VAROOM!
Diane
As far as women having the skene’s gland, I always read the majority have it..not everybody and not everybody is capable of producing copious amounts of fluid. I for one assumed it was completely IMPOSSIBLE for me to do it. I googled methods to do it, tried and after a few attempts it worked. And I mean it WORKED! I don’t know why, but this absolutely THRILLED me that I could do it. We high-5’ed each other and I woot wooted in victory. It’s kinda empowering. Look what I can do!
I can tell you some things that worked in my case. First thing would have to be that your partner is enthused about it. It’s nothing you want to do every time. If your partner is grossed out by the idea of you ejaculating or totally drenching the sheets, it’s going to be a source of stress, because in my case, it’s a huge mess. Mine is extremely watery and surprising sweet smelling and tasting. It doesn’t have a slimy texture at all. I recommend peeing before you start, so you know that all the urine is out of your bladder, because the fear of pissing is the main hang-up of allowing this release. At first it feels very similar to peeing..but its different. The sensation is similar, but the muscles you use to pee..aren’t used or something. It kind of comes out, you hear it, you see it, you feel strange…but you can’t FEEL it come out like you do when urinating. It’s so hard to explain. Usually when women get this “pee-ish” sensation, they back up from it. You can’t back away from it. Sometimes pushing it out, helps you do it. Fingers and toys are definitely the best way to learn, you kind of need that curve and the ability to pop the area kind of hard. The more you practice, the easier it gets. I really thought I was going to have an aneurysm trying at first. Now, its really easy. I find that I can do it by stimulating the Gspot or the Aspot (gspots easiest) with a lot of clitoral stimulation at the same time. The better I got at it, the less clitoral I required to get there. One secret that worked in my case A LOT was if after I had the gspot orgasm from that “solid” stimulation to the gland and I didn’t squirt, intense oral or vibrator stimulation immediately to my clit (usually it has to be fairly intense after this) would totally release it. It’s like the gspot orgasm sometimes LIFTS or OPENS the dam gate..but intense clitoral stimuation (I also read that tapping on the clit after worked) RIGHT after the orgasm, often makes the ejaculate flow. When it starts..you can’t stop it!! It’s like water breaking. (Not that I’ve had kids..but imagine it’s like water breaking.) It just keeps coming and coming and you can’t shut it off. You can make it go more projectile by bearing down or pulling out the fingers or dildo very quickly..but I guess that’s a personal preference. Sometimes, pulling the fingers or dildo out quite rapidly after the orgasm hits seems to stimulate the squirt.
Like I said, I was absolutely SHOCKED. And even more shocking is the ease it has gotten for me to get there when I really had to work so hard at it at first. I used to require quite solid direct stimulation to ejaculate in the beginning. Now I can pop them off quite easily. Still this is so intense, that sometimes I swear I don’t want to do it again. Sometimes these orgasms scare me and when they are on top about to hit me, I almost want to backtrack and run the other way. They are so intense, they almost hurt. I have passed out from them, seen spots for 20 minutes afterwards and been so drained I just laid there and murmered shit that made no sense. However, even though they are draining, if you start right back..the entire vagina is ultra sensitive and I become a total orgasmatron. It feels like my gspot swells big and is easily stimulated. It’s nuts really.
I recommend every woman try it!
Well, actually, these are glands embedded in the erectile tissue – they aren’t composed of erectile tissue. And you have what you have - or not. I’m pretty sure whether you have them or not is genetically determined, so exercise itself wouldn’t change the amount of glands or their size, and won’t create what isn’t there.
The (Grafenberg) g-spot is in the same area as skene’s glands. Personally, I think the g-spot is a misnomer, since this whole area is effused with nerves that also connect with the same nerve branches as the clitoris. It is very possible to stimulate these nerves to orgasm without ejaculation, and even without clitoral stimulation at all.
And if your lady has very small or very few skene’s glands she may be ejaculating without you knowing it, because the amount of the ejaculate is so small. About the only way you would know is if you were having oral sex at the same time and suddenly got a very sweet taste come up, and maybe a scent a little like honey. (They don’t call it nectar for nothing.)
I’m not sure what has been written in the literature, but personally, yes, a really firm, deep tissue-type stroke is necessary.
I think it is more of how much intense intimacy you are comfortable with, that determines whether you are willing or able to explore the edges of this or not. You can’t be comfortably avoidant and do this at all. It is way too real for that. So you have to address the avoidance before you can learn anything that dramatically increases intense intimacy.
And this is true for both partners, okay. If I didn’t trust my husband completely, if I weren’t willing to surrender to his control and allow myself to go wherever he decided to take me, knowing he would keep me safe and bring me back without injuring my psyche, we would never get to take even the first steps. This is really intense stuff, and it isn’t for the faint of heart at all, imo. This is deep juju.
Diane
OMG Diane, I bow to your greatness! Sooooooo good!!
Might not want to jump to any conclusions on that one night stand thing. There are plenty of reasons why a sexual encounter turns into a one time thing.
The squirter I was with turned into a one night stand when she started talking about love and moving in together the next day. She had never had a lover anything like what we are talking about. I had a hard time getting her interested in anything after her first orgasm. And she had no idea how to keep me aroused. I don’t think she had ever had multiple orgasms. I might have taken the time to bring her to a little higher level if she could have kept from … well, she just didn’t know any better.
So in this case it was a one night stand because it was too good. Next time I find myself with a woman who is that naive, I’m going to hold back alot until we get some groundrules in place.
She orgasmed several times, but she only ejaculated once. Which brings me back to one of my original questions. Is it possible to have multiple ejaculations?
OoohYahhh
Yep, I can multiple ejaculate. After the first 2, it’s usually harder to do and there is less fluid. However I’ve had #2 and #3 surprise me and be quite strong and produce substantial amount of fluid. Usually after 2 and 3…I’m not interested in anymore squirty type orgasms.
Just curious BrunetteBeauty (with all due respect of course,) do your toes curl when this happens to you? Because when making love to my wife she curls her toes, as well when she orgasms and I’ve always seen this as a sign that a woman is enjoying the sex, so I was just wondering if this could be seen as a sign or not even of importance.
Oh my god, now those are the best kind, I love those. 
And they last for hours and hours after, they’re so intense.
some of the most realistic posting here ! the physiology here comes from experience ! Diane99,Brunette Beauty, Mikotorocks714,Lor,Domnk. Some thing too learn from… Bloody Good Post !!
For the ejaculating orgasms? I’m sure my toes are curled. My entire body is extremely on edge, and these are the noisiest, most out of control orgasms I have experienced. I seem to have mini phantom orgasms working up to these ejaculating orgasms. These babies are INTENSE and getting to the orgasm is mindboggling. They aren’t as easy to get to as a normal clitoral orgasm. They aren’t beautiful orgasms that feel like melting into pleasure. No, think of it as being zapped with an OVERdose of high voltage electric pleasure. They almost hurt. For these squirty orgasms, my body is spasming and convulsing, I have no control, and the “ride” getting to this orgasm is extremely intense too. I clutch my hands really tight, they hurt when I open them up afterwards and often have my nail marks embedded in my palms. I levitate with these, sometimes my legs start quaking uncontrollably. I thrash, I try to get away. I speak in tongues. Like I said in an earlier post, these orgasm are sometimes a bit scary and working up to them is almost overwhelming. Its not like riding a wave of tranquil pleasure, I feel like I’m white water rafting in river of sexual chaos, STRUGGLING not to drown in the sensation. I don’t even think I could possibly look attractive during these extreme orgasms because I feel like I’m having a seizure. Also, I’m so far off in lala-land..I forget to be aware that someone is watching me. Fuck. I forget about everything during these. These aren’t one of those orgasms that you get those sexy, angelic “orgasm faces”. I’m sure I look like some scene from the exorcist. “Angry cum face” or “The Bruce Banner/Incredible Hulk” orgasm face.
Ha, ha awesome.
I have researched the topic of female ejaculation, and broached the conversation with many females. I also have studied the techniques, shared them with women and tried them together. However, for most women the far off concept of female ejaculation has too many emotional and physical boundaries. They get squeeeeeemish and the power of their own bodies frightens them.
Or maybe I should have just turned the TV off.
LOL
Diane