or perhaps this should be titled:“ARGUMENTS FOR WEARING INSTANT JERK AND THE BANdWAGON CONCEPT”
I have friends who sware by the technique of “visiting a lady of the night”, and then going out on the town to bars and clubs, not having showered and therefore having “the fresh scent of …”…This is similair to the thread descriibng badboys technique of literally wearing it as a perfume…
let me relate my own experiences. 2 years ago i was living in Argentina, IN Beunos Aires “the Paris of South America”…Vsited club after club after bar, exotic foreigner be damned, for with my pockito espagnol, i was quite literally “the Aussie ghost”. Indeed the Portenos Chickas r famed for there snobbery and the males strut like peacocks, …not a damning assesment, just a widely held view by the global masses…indeed, there r more shrinks per indivdiual in B.A than any other city on the planet, apparently for the above reason. Anyways, i couldnt “sarge a latin soul” to save me.
So i c’s myself a lady of ill repute. Witin a week, im dating the hot receptionist Cynthia at my hotel. She says “something about u is different…” in her adorable broekn English…“The ball is rolling”, thinks i, and we pursue a torrid 2 month realtionship. Then we broke up, im off to Cuba to gain some perspective, within 2 days, another gorgeous young philly gets drawn into my web. This is strange for me as im by no means a ladies man. In Sydney, i live the atypical “young, lonely, single, hand jockey lifestyle,” and stuck in the conundrum of a post-feminist, quasi feminst, quasi lesbian, all powerful, all conquering, female galdiators who prefer munching on a rug than a…,well, anyway, back to the girl i met in Cuba,…well, i suspect her subconscious has programmed the fact i was just in a relationship, so, tehre must be something ok and trustworthy about me.
Sure enough, im back in B.A, and hit the bars and clubs again. This time, girls r opening me, i couldnt understand y,?.. i was acting no different then previous times, no more confident or less in need…yet, sure enough, each time i went out, women were drawn to me, i…putting minimal effort in attracting them. It just seemed to hapen. I could only conclude that i smelt like “ive just been in 2 different, sexually active realtionships the past 3 months, and suddenly women wanna jump 'em bones” .
Hmm, the times I got caught with the scent of woman on my flesh it was more of an anti pheromone! Basically she thought I was a male hoe/slut and didn’t want anything to do with me. So I try to wash it the hell off before engaging another woman. Usually my charm and handsome mug is enough!
Also the few times I caught a woman with man juice on her body was a real turnoff for me. Limp noodle deluxe. No wood. Exit stage right. I simply didn’t want to touch her with a stick let alone ma willie. And, yeah, if I can actually smell the sex on her it’s really gross.
My copulins experimentations were a bust except for the self effects.
Were you getting those hits immediately after being intimate or much later?
I think it’s more the rise in confidence and the fact that right after sex I am not transmitting any sexual need message and come across as more confident, friendly and non-threatening.
In “The Potent Self: A Study of Spontaneity and Compulsion”, Moshe Feldenkrais says that sex has the secondary function of regulating the autonomic nervous system - in particular to restoring parasympathetic tone.
If you’re not getting any you may be a stress monkey running in flight-or-fight mode all the time. This will be very clearly subcommunicated by poise and posture.
Sounds like a good argument for something like P74. The “cool guy” vibe.
Either that, or a low dose of alchohol. I’ve found, in my scientific experimentation, that this works in great synergy with alchohol (preferably of a bit higher dose) in her blood stream as well.
p74 is useful, but in my experience that just isn’t what it does… alcohol may help, but in the end with chronic use the toxicity will compound the problem of being stuck in sympathetic state.
tacitus likes the heartmath gadget for learning to access helpful states. some interesting stuff at heartmath.com with general good advice. here is an extract from the newsletter…
A college friend of mine used the small peephole in our sorority house front door for her blind dates. She’d look through the small hole to assess whether or not the rest of the evening would be worth her time. On a few occasions, rather than open the door, she’d let the prejudged and unsuspecting young man walk away believing no one was home.
Most of us would rather not be on the receiving end of a judgment because we don’t like the way it feels. Yet how often do we see others through self-imposed peepholes? We rarely consider that the act of judging or blaming someone else can have the same ill effects on us as it has on the other: Stress.
While appropriate use of judgment and accountability in the work place is crucial, a team permeated with negative, judgmental attitudes, constant criticism and blame, is a team with limited perspectives and a slim chance for success.
One of the quickest ways to eliminate judgments and blame is sincere appreciation. Like other positive emotional states, appreciation improves human performance, including the way the brain processes information. It allows for cortical facilitation and the ability to see situations, and others, from a broader perspective.
So, next time you find yourself rushing to a judgment, open the door to see the full picture. Find something to appreciate. You’ll feel better. More importantly, you’ll see what’s there in a completely different light.
no i think it was more the “relationship smell” - the content, non desperado, “well i dont really care if i have u, as ive just been in relationships with 2 hot girls” energy.
but i dont think i was more assertive or more confident, but maybe an inner “not on the prowl” calm…
but definately the ball got rolling just from seeing hookers, so im convinced that was a purely “sexual” smell i was giving off. 2 hookers in B.A, then got a hot GF 4 days later , yes a normal girl, a uni. student- and guess what? others wanted to get on the bandwagon, not thgh. the social proof of the girl being present, but it happened when she wasnt there as well - as if they could “just smell it off me”…this is what sparked my interest in pheromones, and as yet, has not been duplicated through synthetics.
my friend Darren, a guy with high standards when it comes to female selection, will go to a bar when hes “in a droubt”, and will lower his very high standards, in his words, “just to get the ball rolling”. sure enough, he always keeps this sexual momentum and has no troubles getting high interest levels from girls. This is what i found after my argentina and cuban experiments. Theyll meet u half way - no major seductions were necessary on my return to the B.A bar scene, as Mystery would say, “i came pre-selected”…
then im back in Australia, i let months go by without sexual activity, and sure enough - the process becomes difficult again. The conclusion if youre a player, the secret of the players, i believe, is “constantly smell like youre getting sex”…i could be wrong, but how easy would it be for long suffering males if it were as simple as this.
I actually had the opportunity to “experiment” with this little idea. A close gal friend of mine and I had come up with the theory of another womans scent on me actually drew other women closer to me. The experiment went that we would pick 2 non-party nights at a local hangout. Tues and Weds to be exact. I would wear the same outfit both nights (washed of course). Wear no cologne (this was before I knew about mones), really, nothing different between the nights. The only diff was on night B. the Gal and I would have intercourse. I performed plenty oral on her. After all was said and done, I would wash off with maybe a washcloth and water. no soap.
On night B I consistantly drew a crowd of women. (we did this for several weeks… I know, research sucks). Everytime one of them would comment on “something different”. Some even went as far as trying to get so close to me, I could only think of it as getting her scent on me. Sounds crass, but at the end of the day we are only animals and we mark our territory.
My conclusion was that there was something that did trigger the other females to come to me, and in most cases try to “mark” me. Some women were repelled, but that was such a minority. Just my personal experience.
Below is an old post from LS from an experienced pheromone user who noticed slightly different results from ‘natural copulins’ as opposed to ‘synthetic’ (PCC is a synthetic Copulins product of course). It sounds a little like your experience…
Observations and the influence of natural cops
I don't intend for this to be a decisive post regarding the influence of copulins. I merely had yet another incident that seems to support previous experiences when I've been out and about while sporting natural cops. I know that the issue of copulins, in relation to the theory of "social proof" has been discussed before. Tonight's experiences weren't necessarily profound or conclusive, but merely led me to consider this phenomenon in relation to some past expereinces.
I've been "involved" w/ a girl, Erin, over the past few weeks and I had an "interesting" experience tonight. Erin came over later tonight and brought a friend w/ her, which I thought was unusual. It seemed peculiar, since I usually get together w/ just Erin…that and the fact that her friend was so young. When I mean young, I mean very young. SRH, I know that I've mentioned that Erin is barely 21, but when the truth finally came out I learned that she's actually only 19…and her friend was…well, at least "legally" old enough…as in, age of consent. So I'm hangin' out w/ Erin and Summer for a while, things seem innocent enough for a while. As it turned out, I ended up having a 3some w/ these two girls. Well, these two girls are worried about getting home before it "gets too late", so I decided to go out for a while and see if some friends might be about.
Let me be blunt. It was a sloppy little affair and I was slathered in nectar. I realy didn't consider it at the time, though. So I go out, but I was expecting the women around me to be a bit distant since I was sporting the natural cops and not making any effort to socialize w/ any women…just my buddies who were hanging out. What I noticed was that even some male acquaintances that I'm not that familiar w/ seemed intent on hangin' out w/ me and the few women who were there reacted unexpectedly. For example, there was a cute gal sitting near me who seemed to be about to hook up w/ some guy, based on their body language and convo. Next thing I know, she stands up, distances herself from him and kept trying to make EC w/ me. She's talking w/ her group of friends, but kept glancing over at me and smiling the whole time. A few gals near me (w/in 10') were leaving their guys' sides and began to stand nearby. Then they'd joined this group (mostly girls) and began to chat. They seemed to be trying to get my attention, based on their behavior. Later, this girl (Ashley), comes in w/ this guy and I notice that she's let her hair down and begins stroking her hair while smiling at me. She comes up next to me and starts to chat me up. Again, she completely ignores that guy that she's w/ and seems to be focusing her attention on me. Now while she's chatting w/ me, the group of girls on the other side of me are trying to (verbally) out do each other and talking increasingly sexual…quite graphic actually. Then, this Ashley girl goes and joins them in their convo. Next thing I know, Ashley's guy friend starts talking to me about what a great gal she is and seems to be trying to "sell" me on the fact.
The funny thing was that I wasn't intent on hooking up w/ anyone and even when I went to go talk to this Ashley girl (the only one I knew for sure was a local), she kinda shied away from me.That is, she seemed more intent on proving herself to the group of girls than making any kind of connection w/ me. Seemed very strange. I wasn't too worried about it since I knew that I'd see her around eventually. It just all seemed very strange. I'm curious to see how Ashley reacts the next time I see her out…w/out the cops next time."
Sagacious1420 (April 3, 2004):
“…I've experimented w/ PCC quite a bit and have had decent results.The only real "negative" responses that I've had were that some women have accused me of being a player, but I wouldn't consider myself to be such. I'm very selective in the types of women w/ whom I get "involved"…I have particular tastes, if you will. I have noticed that I get a different kind of response whenever I've hooked up w/ my "friend w/ benefits". She stops by on her way home from work on a regular basis and if I go out later w/out showering first, I see more of the type of responses that I noted above, but not so unusual. One thing about last night was that ther weren't too many ppl out, which is unusual for this place on a thursday night, so I wouldn't normally experience this sort of thing. In fact, it was the fact that it was a rather unusaul type of experience that led me to comment about it. I couldn't say that it was the norm. I was really more curious about whether others have seen anything similar and if so how often it happens…”
look,its been proven…theres a rather humorous dating novel i read at borders about a mans experiences with internet dating. he describes a friend of his, whom was very good looking and would always get intial interest at a pub from women, but, after approach, every single time, the women would lose interest…indedd, he’d gone without sex for a year, and girls did sense it, so no matter how good looking he was, he just couldnt revert this.
the author, i think his name is shaun thomas, claims a friend would go to a hooker after a sexual drought, and then would have no problems, using the disgusting technique of “not soaping for 2 days/ showering yes, soaping no”…he swor by it. Badboy the famous PUA, apparently wears natural female cops as a cologne…
mr. thomas himself realised to get sex, u must already be getting sex. and found he had no troubles “once the ball was rolling” - but its this starting part that left him without sex for 1 yr. too
Sure James i got a friend who doesn’t seem to have much luck with girls so he resorted to visiting a prostitute once a week.
Hes almost 50 and and scared shitless to approach girls.So i was amazed to get a text the other day saying he now has a sexy 20 something lover staying at his house on the weekend.
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