field report! mad confused! i gues I OD'd it! :[ or did I?

I am 19, college student, white skin - about 5’7",male, with height-riser shoes about 5’10" , styllish, nuturally way TOO talkative and funny. most of the time i dont like it because it drops my value from being an alpha male :frowning:

so about pheros,
I am pretty new at this community and the community of pua , but i have read some pua books - have trouble field testing it though. there is this girl 23 , brown skin, she is easily an HB7 with a body of HB9, she is from Afghanistan, so cultural issues do apply here! a friend introduced her to me few weeks ago. after that she always calls me and asks me to hang out. but it is going more in the “LETS JUST BE FRIENDS ZONE!”

yesterday she called me and took me to her house where she lives alone :wink: (around 12:30pm)

MY MIXES: in a total of 6 hours I used all this i will try to list the reactions in a timely manner.

–> first about 3 drops of A314 around the wrist and behind the ear at 8:30am with 2 spray of IH.

–> later around 10:30 2 spray of IO and IShine, (because I didnot see any reaction from women around me)

–> then when she called me at 12pm to pick me up. i put on 3 more drops of A314 with some IH and IShine in 2 sides of my nick (i dont remember the amount)

–>when we went to her house, nutural feels! no touching :frowning: too much talking and that was it, we were there for 2 hours she should me some of her photos of her belly dancing! (damn she is sexy) so then i said i gotta pick up something from my room and then we would go bowling! because i didn’t have my credit card with me! i had to go and pick it up.

–> I went back and put on allot of these products

2 spray of IG in left side of nick,
2 sprary of IH in right side of nick,
1 light spray of IShine in the front side of nick
1 spray of CT2ME in the back of my head
3 spay of IO on my hair.

Now i know it is crazy, but i was nervues and distracted, I wanted to get some results.

so when we went to bowling, again chat chat talk talk no action, when i tried to do kino and hold her hand, she pulled off her hand. as I said she is from afghanistan, so she is kindda shy or idk if she acts like that.

–> all the night she was saying i am funny and she was laughing and talking and agreeing everying i said. but i dont want that.

–> so right now it is going to “lets just be friends zone”. How can I pull it back?
Which mixes Should I use?
Please help, :confused::frowning:
I am starting to think these stuff doesnot work besides that it gives me an heavy headache

Well, first of all you did get results. You said that she said you were funny, the two of you were TALKING, and she seemed VERY SOCIAL. Sorry to break it to you, but these are all results of “socials” like IO, IH, CTTM, and IShine. Which I may add you basically showered in thus in return possibly buffering the Alpha effects of A314 and IG WAY too much.

What you need to do is throw some -none in there, but most importantly be patient! You need to test out your sweet spot first for each individual pheromone product before you begin to layer all this stuff without knowing your sweet spot for each dosage as mentioned and without knowing what is doing what. I know it sounds tedious but in the end it’s worth it, you need to learn what each of the products gives you effect wise (individually) so you can then know what is doing what when combined in a mix.

Also keep in mind that she may not be into you, if that is the case just wearing pheromones won’t have her change her mind if she doesn’t find you desirable. So just take it slow, start out simple and learn what each product does effect wise on their own so you can find your sweet spot and then you can start to layer them once you begin to find each sweet spot for each pheromone product.

Another thing to note is that if you’re already VERY social and funny the addition of socials like IO, IH, and IShine will amplify that even more. In return it may make others find you annoying, or just too darn social and “safe.” So try to find a balance between socials and the more sexual pheromones like -none where it won’t make you way too social, or too much of a horn dog.

-none where it won’t make you way too social, or too much of a horn dog.

thnx… but what do you mean by -nones ? can you give me some example of them. I am newbie. thnx

For example TUTH and AMMO. These two have -none in them.

thnx… but what do you mean by -nones ? can you give me some example of them. I am newbie. thnx

You will find out that funny and talkative IS ALPHA.

What you are doing, is worrying about yourself. You should be confident, and patient. The fact that you ran around spraying yourself willy nilly just shows you how nervous you are. When people perceive that they are being observed for some particular behavior, they will feel it, and it can get CREEPY. It’s best when people around you can feel like they can behave like they want!!!

You will find that when people “OD” it’s actually just that they put on way tooooo many pheromones, which would be fine, except they are all scented. If you don’t know how you smell, it’s like being a walking potpourri bowl. This also can show you are nervous. People are inclined to notice these things.

My advice?
RELAXXXXXXXX.
Enjoy her company, and use the pheromones patiently. Try to learn how they work by applying one per day. Find out on the forum what amounts will work for you. (Most people only use 2-3 drops of A314) A314 contains a bit of -none. Learn some self control. When you learn how they work and how people respond you will be natural and they will feel comfortable.

Right now you are putting them under the microscope, and that’s a weird place to be.

So today she invited me to come and watch her salsa dance in the gym, because I was teasing her that she doesn’t know how to dance. What do you recomend me to wear (phero-wise) thnx

I recommend you wear either …

two sprays of IG and two sprays of Instant Shine or
2 drops of A314 and 2 or 3 sprays of IH or
2 drops or A314 and 2 sprays Instant Shine

Man, you overdosed on a314 and put too much socials too.No wonder your head ached.Pheromones are not used that way.U have to use the right dosage as to get results.If u don’t u will not get any results or will scare people away and feel a headache. Starts with low dosages ( 1 spray 1 drop) and see what works best for you.
Don’t worry every newby makes those mistakes but always remember “with pheromones more does not mean better.Ther is limit to witch you can add more and have better results.Then you overdose and ruin everything”.Whatch out, test your best dosages and have fun. :wink:

Good Lord, :slight_smile:

Well your official phero baptism is over with. Now go back to the beginning and test each product out on its own moving up in the dosage until you find your sweet spot. Do not keep applying it here and there because you dont see anything. Your just wasting it.

Read these …

You probably do need some anone such as TUTH Ammo or something lighter like MX200. I do not suggest buying more products until you get the ones you have working for you.

Scale back on the A314, you used to much right out of the gate.

Do not expect the pheromones to do it all for you. They open the door but you must walk through that door. They will not make someone do something that is against there free will. They enhance what is already there. They increase attraction and interaction they do not create it.

It is not that the products do not work but that you didnt research how to use them.

Tisha

You have to be extra patient with most middle eastern women, because in their countries the’re not used to kino between men and women that are not in a relationship, specially in public.

Thats a very good point as well. There is a culture difference.

Tisha

My guess is that he was trying to make the woman spontaneously combust from pheromone sensory overload.

You had a lot of social mones. Two sprays of Turn up the heat and she would have been on you like a dog on a bone!

I would certainly say you went way over the top with A314.

I can wear 5-6 drops when clubbing and get results but I’m a lot older than you and in more normal dating/social situations, I would seldom go over 2-3 drops.

Also, did you think about how you wanted the A314 to work? Its not really an attraction product per se and a 23yr old could easilly take its signature as bring waaay too serious, older than your years (so incongruent), too “daddy” or simply too remote/standoffish/haughty to be able to get close to.

The IG on its own might have been better for someone her age and its much lighter vibe may be more congruent with your described personality, esp with the IS in tow.

Now you come to the IH/IO/CTTM - You do realise they all contain exactly the same alpha and beta nols in different proportions? So that equates to about seven sprays of IO and five sprays of IH - No wonder you got chatty and had a headache after. I’ve felt pretty burned-out from less!

Next time, start with less and fewer mones and use them more carefully. Simply spraying everything in your collection often ends-up confusing the hell out of people.

Oh and if you have any Ammo, some of that with a little A314 and maybe a spray or two of IS might be a much better mix to wear the next time you see her. Otherwise, IG/IS would be my next best suggestion and keep maybe one mone in hand to add as a topup as the night goes-on. :slight_smile: