First test with one spray of IG and IO: were those hits, or was the dose too low?

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Okay, my first test tonight, and honestly I’m kind of dissappointed. This could have been caused by 2 things either 1) I was expecting too much or 2) I was using too low a dosage. (or maybe because I hadn’t washed off my natural Pheros?)

Okay so, my best man R calls my up and says to meet him at the mall and I was like “Yes, first test!” I sprayed on 1 IG and 1 IO, just for starters… the night carries on and I meet up with R, and 2 other guys, then we go to the mall and meet up with R’s girlfriend, “A-R” and her friends.

Side Note: Not sure that it really matters, but everyone apart from R and A-R were total strangers to me.

I was sitting in the food court, and not really getting all that much attention or openness, despite my attempts to start conversation. I was afraid that maybe just 1 spray was ODing, and that I was just ghosting or that my 1 spray wasn’t enough.

We split up for a bit to head to another common meeting place. I dropped off the 3 people that were with me, R, A-R and another girl, and then went to park the car. After I parked the car I sprayed on 1 more of each.

From then on, I noticed things started to get a little better. For a time R and A-R had walked off, leaving me with 2 of A-R’s friends and one of their boyfriends. The conversation went pretty smoothly i guess for being with complete strangers.

And then, for the rest of the night… I swear A-R was hitting on me O.o After the second spray she started to really warm up to me… like, she claimed she was single TWICE to me, while R was standing right there, and while we were walking, if R wasn’t there, she put her arm around my waist while I would jokingly put my arm over her shoulder, but she was being serious.

I’m really not sure what to make of it. Were the Pheros even in effect at all, or was A-R acting like she normally would have? I’m not even sure IG + IO is supposed to have that sort of effect. Its so difficult to tell peoples normal way of acting apart from how they react to Pheros…

Well, I’m going to sleep for now, so any advice would be wonderful… but before I do that I have to go apologize to R about his girlfriend >_<

EDIT: OH! And also, in this common meeting place we were at, its sort of a plaza type deal where alot of people conjugate in groups. Occainsionally my group would bump into another, someone would know someone from each and then we’d all start to mingle. Well, while we were mingling once, I found it slightly easy to strike up a conversation with a few of the girls, joking back and forth. Once I even went so far as to comment on a girls bra and she was totally okay. Again, I really can’t tell if thats the kinda girl she was, or if the Pheros were in effect

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My Man that’s some pretty good hits you have there… If you get the “I’m single” line, that’s pretty much telling you “hey look at me, I’m available for you”. And the arm around you after that… your in!
Keep talking to this girl next time and get her number and let her know you are interested also…

Have fun :slight_smile:

Edit… just re read you post… so A-R is your best mates Girlfriend? Hmmm, she was defiantly hitting on you… but no girl is worth losing a good friendship over. Be very careful!

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One spray of a given pheromone in the Instant Line is usually not enough to get very noticeable results. You’ll get results, but beginners usually do better noticing them at the 2-3 spray range, and sometimes, depending on what you’re using, 4+.

I like using Instant Openness at 3 to 6 sprays, but be careful, too much makes you spacey and causes blathering from you and them. :smiley:

Instant Gentleman I’m not yet familiar with, but I agree with Alfa1 - she was offering herself to you. In a fairly obvious way for a woman, at that! Definitely let her know you’re interested. Sounds like she’s responding to both the IG and the IO. IO has a very attractive quality for young females. IG, not sure… but it would seem to me to suggest an older man. I’d go with 1-2 IG and 2-3 IO and see what happens next time. IO by itself at medium to high doses in your circumstances can be a killer, too.

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Well it’s not bad for just one spray of each product. You haven’t found your sweet-spot yet so you won’t have as much hits as you can possibly have.
Then again, pheromones aren’t everything, you still have to work them and interact.
Interaction should be preferably congruent to the signal you are sending out.

So there’s still a lot things you can do to enchance your hits if you are not satisfied yet. Just keep testing and experimenting :wink:

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I have to wonder what you are confused about, or what you are dissapointed about.

If you go out and drink with your buddies and have a great time, do you say to yourself at the end of the night “I HAD A GREAT TIME!~!! but I was not drunk enough to puke!!!” Maybe you do. Anyways I can relate i’ve been through what you have been going through, so let me break it down for ya…

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You should read leafstamps journal. He just tested 10 sprays of IO xFOUR!!! Essentially forty times what you are wearing. You cannot “OD” on IO or IG. “OD” is a fear newbies have when they don’t know what their threshold is for androstenone, but don’t worry, none of your products have androstenone. Looking at your words, you mention you are afraid… You are trying something new, going into a place where you are not sure how people are going to react. Of course you’re feeling a bit weird!!! This weirdness that you feel, “how are people going to react, is it working, should I have used more IO, is the IG affecting them, should I start a new topic…” etc etc. These are all thoughts you are probably having that are making your interactions come off as awkward for the beginning. Once you got comfortable you can see it got better.

If she has a boyfriend, it’s probably not too serious. However, I would say this is 100% a hit!!! (Sorry buddy, I know how the ego wants to take credit for it j/k) She is being playful, flirty and showing you that she enjoys your presence from the IO. And she’s showing that she enjoys your masculine presence, and trusts you like she would trust her bf. IG.

Easy conversations are the hallmark of IO.

I’m laughing now as I remember when I was 16,17,18
There was lots of confusion and disappointment lol

What is your ethnicity ZS?

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Now that’s an easy one! NatGeo and Discovery always depict insects and small mammals drawn into involuntary mating behavior when exposed to mones. Freakin’ science porn! SciFi movies further reinforce the before mentioned when aliens entrap and control humans with powerful mones. So, yeah, it’s easy to imagine bumpin’ ulgies in the mall stairwell and totally ignore the interested conversation and multiple proclamations of “I’m single.” Kinda underwhelming after seeing mice, bugs and space aliens all doing it with a single whiff of mones…

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Don’t worry about OD too much. I went out last week wearing 10mcg (4 sprays) of TUTH, maybe 6. I’m 22 also so it’s regarded as an overdose and all was fine…

It only matters in the fact that IO should make the atmosphere more relaxed and thus should be easier than normal to talk with strangers.

I can not speak for IG (or Rone for that matter of fact) but IO you can’t really OD on it. I use spaceland in the 600mcg range for anol. IO is a anol /bnol mix, I think 8.5 of anol per spray? So dont worry too much.

I’ve had similar things happen when out drinking prior to me even buying my first pheromones. Not so much as mentioning being single but I’ve had my best mate’s girlfriend grinding me when he was at the bar… She was drunk I guess so I’m not sure if it counts lol.

It can be pretty harmless, it’s all about drawing a line before things go too far, unless you want to take it beyond those social boundries…

One of my friends dislikes sleeping on her own, she came down here out of the blue last week and slept with me in my bed (clothed, not sexual). She also said she sleeps with her new gay male friend a lot, though I’m certain they wouldn’t be fully clothed like we were, although she wasn’t really bothered if i striped down to my underwear either, but you’kno, i want to avoid any embarrasing moments lol. She “kinda” has a boyfriend, but the point is, she’d do it even if she had a boyfriend and thats fine, because there is nothing wrong with that…

You need not take physical contact as an indicator of interest. I don’t agree with a lot of the ‘direct indicators of interests’ mentioned here on these forums. Personally I find them all too much of a 50:50 thing.

Don’t, you did nothing wrong. If anything, it only shows guilt and a sign of guilt means you thought about cheating, naughty boy! :stuck_out_tongue:

If he though something went on he’ll bring it up to his girlfriend himself and give her a good spanking.

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I would actually say for a first test and only at One spray of IG and One spray of IO, that was a pretty good hit. She even mentioned she was single to you, twice. And she was tryna get comfy with you too..

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@ rhu: Yeah but see… she isn’t single… she’s my best friends girl… atleast, she was on that night…

@ evolver: I’m Irish and Viking… 80/20%… I’m as white as they come dude >_<

UPDATE:

Hey guys, jsut got back from chilling with the same crowd from last night, but the bad news is I’m even more disappointed :frowning: I wasn’t getting any hits, but I made sure to use the same exact dosage as last night (2 sprays of IG and IO). It seemed to have worked well for me last night, but this night, nothing.

The atmosphere was a little charged because of an altercation between R and some guy that was talkn shit before I arrived, and afterwards R was talking about how he might be breaking up with A-R. So all in all there were negative vibes shooting off every where, could that have nullified my Pheros, or was I really ghosting? 2 sprays seems liek a really low dosage to be ODing on, seriously…

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If anything, I’d say your mones would have made things better than they could have gone, not worse.

Do you have any TUTH? If you want to see what its like to ghost… take a bath in it. Give yourself 4 or 5 spray and see what happens. THEN you won’t be worried about the OD affect from IG.

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Try the stuff one at a time. I know you see most of the reports here are about “hits” in specific situations. That’s in part because it’s easier to write about a definitive thing like a “hit” than something more subjective. Use one product by itself for several days, then nothing for several days. Yes it takes some time and patience but you’ll start to see patterns develop. That is what you are looking for.

Using two or more products at once leads to some confusion in the beginning IMHO. Using one product concentrates the effect and lets you see it better.

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I have some TUTH… I think I might just purposfully OD… but not this week >_< maybe next week… this week is homecoming and I’m trying to ask this girl to the dance.

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K, I think I’ve found a good social mix… 2 Sprays of IG to the back of the neck and 3 sprays of IO to my wrists/inner arms… but since they are To-Go sizes I guess it better equates to 1.5 IG and 2.5 IO… I’m thinking maybe some IH wouldn’t hurt either in the way of conversation…

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If you want to get IG self effects, one of which is increased self confidence, you may want to spray it on the front of the neck. Id go with 2 sprays IG to front of the neck, 3 IO to the wrists/arms, and IH can be sprayed to the back or top of the head.