First time trying 40mcg P83, overwheling and clumsy

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I ran out off my 10mcg and got a 20 now so I wouldn’t need a load of sprays to go higher. I gave 40mcg a shot for the first time with apprx 1.25mcg P75 and than 5mcg P91

Now I am taking a dance class just to fill some gaps in my lass schedule while learning new skills such as dancing better, and than meeting some girls. With about 5 guys and 15 girls in the class the few guys just stand in place while the girls rotate.

What would happen is almost every girl would screw up the steps and make loads of mistakes when dancing with me but they wouldn’t when dancing with anyone else. Three of them actually said something apologizing for messing up, and actually said they don’t know why they keep screwing up whenever they get around to me. The only girl in the room that seem unaffected is a possible trans-gender who I am very sure of. Almost all of them were too shy to talk and getting clumsy where normally P83 at lower amounts would close proximity and draw eye contact to me a lot, these effects seemed to have been lost.

1.25mcg P75 and 10-20mcg P83 has been a good combo for me while always being able to throw in others here and there. Seemed like doubling the P83 really changed the outcome this time.

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Interesting observation on P83, thanks, I’ve got some on order!

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have you tried P83 alone? what are the effects?

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That would be about what I’d expect. With a more sociable phero like P91, a lower dose of P83 is often better - 40mcg is something I’d use alongside a more strongly sexual mix - and P91 can be a bit dreamy so if you are getting P83 disinhibition and any response from that amount of P75, I could well see it as promoting clumsiness.

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Two thoughts:

  1. I’d reserve upping the p83 when things are heating up, or when you know you might encounter lmr, or when your sure you are going to head into the bedroom.. I sometimes use 40mcgs on my gf, but the I know where things are going and it just makes it more fun.

  2. this may not be a bad thing, making women a bit clumsy around you, from time to time. they might start thinking to themselves “what is it about that guy the makes me so clumsy?” Sometimes building attraction means making women feel a bit uncomfortable or tense. or even angry. I often use it to make women feel weird around me, which sounds bad, but done right can be just the ticket.. the key is for them to feel like they are being weird, tense, angry etc.. not you. You act all normal, and they are all over the place.. makes them wonder about you and why they react that way to you.
    Not that I’d reccommend it often, but it does have its uses

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I found 1.25mcg P75 to be good, that combined with 10mcg P83 got me some hair play that I would only see with -none. However -none is more effective for that IOI.

I like P83 and 1.25mcg P75 as my average mix

Far as P91 I have gotten odd experiences. I first figured it to be masculine in some way since I felt like I was being given congruence test although nothing too heavy but just at a level that I can say something back and use it to direct conversations in different ways than they would normally. I got lots of odd responses when I posted about this, turns out it’s far from masculine according to most people and could be thought of as IH, but to me it’s different.

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I’ve noticed the clumsy factor to a small degree. It happens to me too with P130 and P83. I will literally walk into the corner of a building and crack up at myself because I’m just so damn clumsy with these on. Don’t stress it at all however. Girls will ponder what it is about you that makes them clumsy, then it’ll lead them to wondering if it’s because they’re attracted to you, which ultimately starts them on a course of thinking about what they find attractive about you. Not really a bad process if you ask me. You’ll be on their mind at least, even if they decide they might be turned off to you.

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I never considered the idea of a social being affected by a disinhibitor.

Curious. What do you think would happen with IJ and P83 together on a high dose?

Also can you clear your inbox?

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P83 is very effective with socials - Social mixes become more free/fey, bouncy, chatty and touchy-feely than ever, you just need much less P83 compared to none mixes.

I’ve done that - It gets quite exciting but not always in a particularly good way. A lot of guys become even less inhibited about sounding-off and wanting to start on you!

Which can be very attractive to any woman you are with if you can use the IJ effect to turn the frighteners back on them. So far, they have always backed down and I have been “appreciated” for it. :wink:

I’m having PM problems just now - My inbox has been clear for weeks but I was only able to send my first PM in ages just the other day. I’ll give it a few more days then email Mick if its not resolved.