It was not computer problems, you were on a sh*t list. No need for phone conversations to be posted, etc. I think you and I AND the others on this forums have started taking this all to personally and have all acted outside of our self ideals.
I think Steve and AD have learned from this; hey, business is a learning process throughout. After all, it is these hot-button posts that get tones of attention and bring more visitors.
I really believe PapaWolf, regardless of if the products work ala mones or ala placebo that Steve and the others at AD truly believe they are HELPING PEOPLE. I am no longer questioning their intentions, a quick phone call did wonders. I am NOT saying their products work as advertised, I do NOT KNOW. What I am saying is you have a company run by people who care. Imperfect people who sometimes make errors in judgment, just like the rest of us.
all right guys, i think we’ve learnt our lessons here. so let’s please move on and find out things that pheros can potentially do. i’ve been reading this thread carefully since the beginning, and what i can see is that Steve “is” indeed a quality guy who’s trying to help everyone eventhough he’s ill. (that’s what i’ve gathered Steve, hope u’ll get better soon mate) as for nobrains, i think he’s genuinely trying to find out how pheros act and the potential power of’em. as for papawolf, mate please, for the love of pheromones. lol. let’s move on now shall we?? if u really ARE trying to rekindle ur relationship with ur lady who’s special in ur life, let’s try to do it, and try to help everyone out, now shall we? cos honestly, am sick and tired of reading all the quotes and trying to understand what’s going on. and i hope with all my heart that u WILL rekindle ur relationship with this lady, because quite frankly am trying the same thing to do with my ex girlfriend who i love to bits. u and i are not so different papa. so let’s finish all this crap, and if u allow Steve can we do this test and see the results. by all means am not insulting or disrespecting ANY user or ANY company at ALL. am just excited and curious to take part in a test. so what do u say everyone??
Goof is right we just all gotta “Let it be” and All you need is love, all you need is love, All you need is love, love, love is all you need. Oops too much Beatles while cleaning my house rofl.
lol. amen brother. lol. all right. let’s get to work everyone. when and where do we start?? am excited like a little kid who got a lollypop in his hand. lol
(which is the biggest misnomer I have encountered this entire decade - you have a brain and plenty of it!)
It’s 10000000x wonderful that you are up for doing some phero experiments. Im rootin’ for you!
However, if you are testing here on pherotalk, I ask one simple thing:
Let’s MX it!
This way, we can batch and fulfill it for you, and you can conduct bigger experiments, with more people, and you barely have to lift a finger. We are happy to do this for you!
This way, we can automatically answer the question, “well, is it ok if I use Androtics test group?” You can hardly “sneak” a formula into the MX system!
PM me, and we can get this all set up.
Depending on the ingredients, we can see it batched as soon as early March? (that’s still a flexible timeframe… Checkthis threadfor updates and details on MX release dates)
I don’t think he was testing a unique mix. It seemed more like he was testing whether or not the placebo effect works with mones, which we already know works with everything.
Right, I am testing placebo vs. mones. Yes, we know placebo works with everything but asking the simple question “which bottle contains the pheromones” we can see if the pheromones have a noticeable effect VS the placebo. If pheromones are not just placebo they should stand out vs. placebo. If it is impossible to tell which bottle contained the actual mones, it might suggest that pheromones have no noticeable effect beyond the placebo one.
The problem is that I need 8 - 10 “pheromone experts” (in terms of usage) and I currently have TWO. Actually only one who I can still get a hold of.
We can still release them as an MX pack, as long as we happily and fully disclose that, “Hey guys, you’re getting an alcohol placebo in this, FYI!”
And wouldn’t that be a fun little game? “Spot the phero!” We can run it as a month long thing, and at the end of the month, tell everyone which one was the dud, and which one was actually pherospiked. We’d run it double blind, so that you, nobrain, and we would have no idea til the end who was right or wrong!
Is this just a curiosity project, or were you doing it for a school report, or what?
ill participate in the experiment if you still need more people, i have some experience with ammo and TUTH, only problem might be that im europe… let me know if you need me
i also have a university degree in social and economic sciences so i know how research is properly done
jasmin, and all others;
as i am following his this (no-brain guy) or the guy with no brain’s posts in past months, he just looks like a guy of words, and no action, he likes to go to different forums and argue for no reason for some BS that he doesnt even give a damn about it himself, as he got kicked out of the other forum that he mentioned it himself.
dude! u gotta see how much respect AD is showing to you! not even they blocked you out of the forum, but Jasmin even offered you a deal that they will help you out with this research. so you are finally getting what you want! I mean if you are really up for the research.
my question is, have you used AD’s products(in other words pheromones that you dont belive in them) yourself? if you havnt used them yourself, how the hick you expect others to trust you and use the product you are sending them? first of all legally what you want to do is not allowed!! I mean you can be sending a kind of bacteria or virus in those bottles and then blame it in pheros or AD!!
now i come to your Question that how can i believe AD(an over the internet shop but not you) will cuz u sound annoying and you might even be a 12 years old kid and not even a curious researcher!! and AD has its warranty backed up by BBB.org, so first u get a license from a company like that, and then come here and talk about testing crap…
let me ask you a question ! if i was doing the same experiment, would you be willing to be a part of it. I mean god knows, i can be sending you herpes in that bottle , or maybe even some other STD sh!!T…
alrite i guess i said enough BS… time to go and eat..
take care,
and oh btw jasmin, kick this guy outta the forum, before he says more BS, but I would love to see that experiment running by AD to some of the experianced members of the forum, and the results posted daily in the forum.
I highly doubt you really read through my posts and came to that conclusion. The other forum I got kicked out of? I got kicked out of for making the outrageous claim that an “herbal supplement” contained DRUGS. Guess what, less than a month later DRUGS were discovered in the product. I highly doubt you really read my posts here or there.
And, yes, they (AD) did block me. I was reinstated after a friendly phone call to them. We have all learned to respect each other on the forum, I suggest you join in and not take us steps backwards.
Pehaps we can order one MX and receive two bottles; one labeled A and one Labeled B. They should both be scented identically. Only one contains mones. It shouldnt be combined with other orders to avoid confusion. Recipients must promise to journal and report for a total of 5 days for each…Im in provided after all the reports are in the blind is broken
nobrain just out of curiosity what have you experienced since you started using mones?
I know you ordered some products but aside from one report in your journal you never mentioned anything again.
Yes, I agree. See, now that I can respect nobrain. If you still want to do your thing then go for it, Jasmin has been kind enough to try out your idea so aside from that let’s just try to keep it civil and just wait to see how everything pans out.
I have to admit, I’m very new to pheromones myself, and I am admittedly skeptical but unlike the OP I’m not approaching it from a standpoint of needing to disprove it. I’m actually planning an experiment of my own which would hopefully take the wearers personality out of the equation. I’m so curious that I’m going to spend my own money on it. For me it’s more a matter of testing what could be a potentially useful product to PUA’s more so than simply mocking believers for being “fooled” into buying snake oil.
I know about where my game is and if a product or combination of products can give me a 10% boost then it’s worth the investment. I just want to make sure it’s the product and not a placebo effect. It’s simply a matter of approaching the experiment with healthy skepticism but still an open mind
