IG gives me the ‘he is a nice interesting guy’ vibe. Not sexual. If you make a move she normally allows you to do SO much more.
I think the signature gives her the justification of, “He wouldn’t hurt me, he is a nice guy.” Under the radar mate.
Not entirely sure which post you are referring to, and I didn’t go back to read them. Are you saying that you aren’t going to get extended eye contact or anything like that from IG?
**1/14/13
**Application: 3 sprays of Ammox2. 1 split between wrists. One to each side of neck. Approx. 3pm.
–I had not noticed much of anything from ammo, so I decided I am going to up the dose until I get ghosted.
Self-effects: Did not notice anything today.
Results: Went to sell some books after class today. Talked with one employee who told me how much I could get for my books. We talked about one of the classes the book was from, nothing interesting though. I then went over to the cashier line to redeem my voucher for the books I was selling for cash. I was about 3 or 4 people back in the line when I noticed that the cute 19-20 year old black cashier was staring at me with DIHL in the middle of ringing someone else up. She realized what she was doing and immediately looked down at her register. I smiled a closed mouth smile, and looked down as well :o (I need to work on how I receive hits). When I got to the register I acted a bit more chatty than I usually do, but was still a little short and awkward. She seemed much more bubbly than she had with the other customers, but I should’ve paid more attention to how she acted with them in order to compare. Anyways, we both flashed big smiles and I went on my way.
Went to a few other places today, but didn’t notice anything else. Because I am going to increase the dose until I OD, I am only going to be testing in places I won’t be seeing the people regularly. So that means no class. Today was my most blatant hit though, so that was fun.
Discussion: Something I think is worth noting. I went about my daily activities wearing basketball shorts and a tshirt, and I felt more confident and less anxious. This is something I read about on the forum the other day, and thought it was interesting that I found it to be true for myself today.
Next time get her name and use it when u greet her epcecially if u see her outside of work she will appreciate you everytime u remember to address her by name. :-). After u build some rapport you can get her number next. You could always go straight for the number of course whatever suits your style.
I will start doing that. Probably wont see this girl until next semester though when its time to get books again. Do you have any suggestions for when they are wearing a name tag and it is weird/pointless to ask for their name?
I remember when I was in college their was more then just text books there to buy. Your school maybe different. Try to find an excuse to go back to the store so she can ring you up. ;-). Then I don’t think it matters if you ask her name or just say what’s on her name tag because she is crushing on you and any genuine attention u give her she will like. The idea is to build rapport by acting like u already know her by greeting her by name. A few times of that and you’ll start feeling better about justifying your rapport with her by asking questions about her and her day and she will be more willing to tell you what’s going on with her and vice versa.
Yeah in most bookstores there are, unfortunately this one is strictly textbooks -_-. But I might figure out a way to get back in there. Good call about using names. I have noticed from previous experiences that simple things like that, whether its a guy or a girl, can go a long way.
Yeah it just dawned on me today and made a post about it in tips and tricks. Thought I might share bro.
**1/15/13
****Application: **2 drops of A314 split between wrist and jaw line, 1 spray ammox2 to neck, 1 spray ISx2 to other side of neck.
-Meant to use 1 drop of A314 and two or three sprays of ammo, but accidentally dropped two drops so had to adjust to prevent OD.
Self-effects: I didn’t project much more confidence in social interactions, but I did feel a bit more relaxed today.
Results: I had lab today, and we had an exercise about allele frequency in populations. We were required to go around the room “mating” with other people using index cards. This was a great opportunity to test out the mones, but I can’t say I used it effectively. Throughout all of my “mating” I didn’t notice anything in terms of hits, but I was kind of awkward about it. I went up to the most attractive girl in the room, asked her name, “mated,” thanked her, and walked way. Nothing interesting though. (Side note: It was funny, because she almost had a line of 3 or 4 guys just hovering around her waiting to “mate” with her, lol.) Anyways, went throughout the rest of my day not really noticing anything. I really need to go back to only using one at a time to find my sweet spot.
Wassup man gd job getting the hottest girl in the room name. It’s a gd start. Now u just have to apply that same approach to girls you know are crushing on you. :-). And if u catch the hot girl making gd eye contact just say hey “whatever her name is” and ask her one question about her day or how’s she’s doing. Or make an observation & She might bite u never know. Keep it simple.
In reference to IG vs A314 I believe. IG allows he to let you do a LOT more from my experience, it is far more social.
IG is like a school girl with a crush on the rebel a couple years older than she is. It is great thing.
A314 is very high status and strong, you need to heavily break her in so she will be receptive to you.
That makes a lot of sense. I have been going about this a bit wrong. Falling into a typical rookie folly, it would seem. I am looking for obvious hits like DIHL, since my social skills aren’t what I would consider to be up to par. But maybe what I should be doing is using mones like IG. That way I can suggest status, but also not scare people away. I feel like I pretty much just reiterated what you said, but it helped me to think out loud. Let me know what you think. Btw, thanks for your input Kimba
It is a pleasure to help out. Any social skill help or mone help can respectively be posted in my PUA thread (For social skills) or my journal (For Mones). I love to help.
I get DIHL from MX297 only on younger gals. But I will be honest, working in customer service/sales in my 9-5, my mones get a LOT of testing.
I tend to find some patterns. A314 gets gals to look away but they are still into you. Summer Ammo gets gals flirty. IG is a social buffer with a nice guy coat. IO makes chicks a tad more receptive. IH makes girls want to connect with you.
My favorite blends for younger girls are as follows:
MX 297 + P75: It produces a super social vibe plus raw sexuality/aggression.
IG + IO + P83: Young girls tend to follow/proximity to you.
A314 (One Drop under your shirt) + 2x Summer Ammo: This is interesting. Some gals love the high status guy, this is him with a topping of social and sexy buffered with the glow of IS.
P74 + IO + IH + P75: Crushy type of mix plus a hint of social and raw aggression.
A lot of good stuff exists out their. The key is to not look for the DIHL, but to just be social and the mones help her be more receptive and to then allow her to more easily show IOI’s.
Thanks for all this info! For me, I think I need to start doing more testing with IG, because I definitely need to have a less serious and more social vibe. Unfortunately, I do not have that much IG left because I swapped it for ammo in my latest order :o
IG is ideal for guys who dont know their place in social interactions because it is a social lubricant. You can either get away with doing a bit too much or a bit too little. It allows you to safely test your comfort zone.
With IG you do not have a lot of limits on what works with it. It blends very well, much like Ammo. I tend to view it this way:
- IG for the Day.
- Ammo for night.
Good luck with your testing.
Mobocaster stated 2.5 mcg P75 + about 20 mcg P74 – he would rate about 7-8 out of 10 for crush potential. I’d give P75 with IO + IH about 5-7. 40 mcg P83 with P75 : I give 5-7. Where do you rate P74 + IO + IH + P75 ? What if I drop the IO out of that 74/75/IH combo ? Thanks.
A solid 8 But the crush effect is different. It is a challenge to articulate, but you can feel the difference from friendly and romantic crush’s.
2/4 and 2/5
It has been a couple weeks since I have used or reported. I gave myself a week or two off to readjust my focus and intentions with mones. I don’t know if that really happened, but either way I decided to start again.
2/4
I had a job interview yesterday, so I decided it was a good time to try mones.
Application: 1 spray of ISx2, and 1 spray of IG to the neck.
Self-effects: I did not notice any real self-effects.
Results: I was not very perceptive of people’s behavior because I was so preoccupied by the interview. The interview was in very close quarters (small cubicle), and went pretty normally. She was very professional in everything she said, but I noticed when I got up to wait in the lobby I got very close to her face. She actually leaned in and blinked about 4 times in a 2 second period. Between the two interviews (with the same girl), I realized that the interviewer was affected by the mones. When I went back in, she told me that she thought I was great and would definitely make a great member of the team. I am not the best at interviews, but this was the best interview I have ever given. Even still, I was surprised by how much she liked me. I didn’t get the job because they had already filled the position, but I might get called in for a second interview if the person doesn’t work out.
**2/5
Application: 1 spray of ISx2, 1 spray IG to the neck.
Results: **Got a couple of looks in bio lab, nothing out of the ordinary. Didn’t do much socializing. However, I do have a so called “target” in this class, we will call her “G.” I’ve only said a couple words to her before, because she sits on the opposite side of the table. But from what I can gather she is a pretty innocent girl, and my god she is in shape. Anyways, today G was asking a lot of questions to the teachers, and was not looking towards the back of the room (my way) much. The one time she did, she was staring directly at me for a very long time. It was kind of weird though, because when we made eye contact and a gave a little smile she did not react at all. I think she may have just been looking straight past me. As the lab went on we were in the same vicinity a couple times and I didn’t notice anything else from her
We both usually go to the same Supplemental Tutoring section on tuesdays, and it gives me a much better opportunity to talk to G. It is a few hours later, so I reapplied to a total of 2 sprays of both IG and IS. G did not show up today, but I did have an interesting experience with another girl. There were only 4 people in the room today, and the girl next to me kept looking over at me throughout the session. Everytime we were answering questions as a group, she would defer to me everytime and treated me as the authority in the room. I thought that was incredibly interesting, but she wasnt very attractive so I had a hard time pursuing it lol. I may boost up to 3 sprays of IG, but I dont have that much left, so we will see.
It has been a while since I have posted here, but after figuring out more about myself, and what I think mones could help me with, I am starting to use them again. I have always been both shy and introverted (yes there is a difference), but I have been in a struggle with myself to become more extroverted. Through therapy and effort I have been decreasing my shyness and anxiety in social situations, but even with that barrier passed, I still can’t seem to give a shit about talking to other people about meaningless things. That is what I mean by the introversion. Because I have always been this introverted, I have never really developed great social skills. So even though I am not as nervous talking to new people as I once was, I still struggle to have conversations. That’s where mones come in.
I used instant gentleman tonight, probably 1.5 sprays to the neck. I think I may have gotten some hits, but the biggest thing for me was the “self-effects.” I use quotes because I am not actually sure if I felt any true self-effects. I have felt the super confidence boost from A314 before, and it certainly wasn’t that. But for me it was kind of a shield or a buffer, it allowed me to think that I had some room to be slightly awkward before anyone thought that I really was. I don’t know if that will make sense, but I had a great time at my friends birthday dinner with a bunch of people who I barely knew or completely didn’t know. I also left the situation feeling energized instead of depleted like my introverted self usually is.
I plan to use IG pretty much daily for a while just as my security blanket, with hopes of continued social progress.