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Hello everyone, I guess an introduction is in order!

About myself

I realise that this may be too much information for some of you, so I added bold phrases that describe me in. However, truth be told I want to give an accurate description of myself so that constructive advice tailored to my mannerism and situation can be given for the issues I have, which I would elaborate later.

I’m a 21 y/o asian male from Singapore, currently awaiting matriculation into university next year. Built-wise, I’m lean (almost skinny) and average looking… maybe a 6/10? Nonetheless, I just ended 2 years of mandatory military service so I’m pretty fit :wink:

I am normally serious and probably a bit too mature - basically the kind of guy you might feel okay to initiate a deep conversation with right from the get-go, but not the kind to have fun and party with. However, since society at large values extroversion, I can hold my own and fake being joyful/cheery/loud with the situation calls for it, but that is seldom who I really am. With real friends though, I am different - dorky, random and the butt-of-all-jokes (in a good way :smiley:). It gets to me sometimes, but that’s another story for another day…

Basically, I am a fairly good listener, but a bad talker - I feel weird (and difficult to string sentences together) whenever someone listens to me. One point that may have contributed to my perceived age (a few people said I look 23-24 y/o) is perhaps in part due to my voice. I have a deep voice for my age/ethnicity, and whenever I speak to a room, I typically command the attention of everyone, despite being an utter failure at public speaking. When I speak to a small group of people, I feel as if they are listening with rapt attention (you know how when people normally listen, they do give attention, but the eyes look relaxed. When I talk, people’s eyes seem to become more alert… its disturbing) - almost too intense for me. I just want to talk, not give orders…

Introverted or not, my friends have said that I have started to open up since a few years ago, so I guess that’s a good thing, since nobody really values introversion any longer. In case anyone is guessing my MBTI type, its INFP. Lol, did you get it correct?

*Basically, I would wish to open up more naturally and display more assertive (not aggressive!) behavior as a person, without coming across as too mature. I had said that I am a good listener, and thus thought it would be better to have the best of both worlds when I enter the working society and ahem… cough cough dating world. *

How did i get to know Pherotalk/pheromones?

I think like most users, I was interested in colognes first. In the past 3-4 years I had been trying them out and was active in basenotes.net. Somewhere along the line, I stumbled upon this website pheromone-perfume.org, and thought it was a load of old tosh. Then in the past year, I decided to search even more in-depth into phero-perfumes, and got to a yahoo answers page linking to here. So that’s the gist of the story.

Do I still think that its a load of old tosh? Partially! :roll_eyes: I’m really still a skeptic, because I would like to see results before I devote myself into intensely testing the various products.

MY URGENT ISSUES pertaining to my future :frowning:

I said I was waiting to enter a local University next year right? Well, I hit a snag. They rejected me for the past 2 years :angry: My grades aren’t downright bad, but they are probably in the last 10th percentile of the course that I want to get into (no its not Medicine, its not Law.) However, I already have a plan in mind (which I would prefer not to disclose) and there are few issues which I need your help with, as stated below:

I wrote the age, gender and time of meeting for fear that the wrong pheromones I use could do my harm more than good. Do these factors really matter?
If I do not specify, the person is asian.

1a. Getting help from an authority
I wish to obtain a letter of recommendation from the Member of Parliament of my constituency to assist in my university application. The MP will still probably write the letter if I had went there unprepared, but I wish for a more impactful letter that could turn the tides in my application.

  1. First I have to prepare what I wish to be in the letter for myself with a grassroot assistant, male/female, generally 40-50 y/o.
  2. Next I see the MP - male, very late 40s, is a lawyer for 20 years. The time of the meeting will probably be 8pm-11pm. He is an understanding person, and sincerely wishes to help.

1b. Getting help from my ex-teachers
I haven’t met them for quite some time, but their impression of me remains favorable. Should i get a product that instills trust or assertiveness when I meet them to explain my situation and that I would love to have their recommendation letters?

1c. Appealing for an interview
I wish to appeal to the Admission officers/Professors/Dean to grant me an interview to enter the course faculty of my choice. And that means writing (snail mail)to them or meeting them in person to maximize the impact of my case upon them.

  1. For the admission officer(s), I plan to try and ask for a woman, as in my opinion they are more understanding. If not, tough luck.
  2. Most of the professors are 40-50 years old, both genders, may be Caucasian (20%~). The deans are all male, late 40s.
  3. Will applying the pheromones to paper work? Or is it a freaking dumb idea? (In case I mail them)

1d. Attending the interview
University 1: The interview will most likely be an essay, followed by a talk with a couple of professors to assess my intellect and personality.
University 2: Corporate style full-on barrage. I will probably be sitting in front of a panel of professors, who will fire endless salvos of questions at me (why do you want to join this uni? What are your strengths? What do you think of this recent incident? You said this, but ended up agreeing to that… explain!). Exciting, and traumatising.
University 3: To the best of my knowledge, they have no interview.
I do not know the age of the people involved. Probably 30-50 y/o, both genders, Asian or Caucasian.

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2. Chasing girls
What, did you think I’m some kind of sexless automaton? :stuck_out_tongue: I would like to date soon too, my previous relationship was ages ago! I normally go for caucasian or asian girls (mostly), more of the cute or lovely instead of the omg-she’s-so-hot-1000-guys-are-chasing-her kind. I’m entering university so I guess 17-24 y/o girls are the kind I want to chase. :smiley:

Questions by a skeptic

Well I did say I was one… here they are:

  1. Will using something that instills trust to promote deep conversations with someone good at this be too much of a good thing?

  2. Will using pheromones change my personality? I still want to be myself, not slowly become some kind of super party animal over the years!

  3. Can a person smell pheromones? I don’t have distinct body odor, but after I go for a vigorous run I can smell something spicy on my clothes. It sorts of smell like… semen :confused: at the start, but sniff at it longer and it smells almost chemical-like… as if it was ammonia from a chemical lab!

  4. What do you guys think of this site, do-pheromones-work.com? Is it reliable? And these products:
    a. Scent of Eros for Men
    b. Alpha-7 Scented for Men
    c. Liquid Trust
    d. NPA for Men
    e. A314
    f. Pheromax
    I have heard that d. and e. are rather similiar, and that both are very potent.
    I also heard that f. is complete bullcrap.

  5. Why is it that the Singaporeans on this forum only posted a few posts (and all near their registration dates) after which, they all disappear? If the products really work that well they would have decided to participate in the forum right? I am under the impression Pheromones isn’t something you master after 4-5 tries!
    Also, why is it always the same few people replying to the introductory threads?
    Disclaimer: I do not wish, nor have the intention to offend anyone, only that the above statement is my observation over the past week regarding this forum and pheromones in general.

  6. Morally speaking, I am very conflicted regarding the use of pheromones. If it really is as effective in subconsciously influencing people’s actions, then we would be using something biologically reactive, not artificial (e.g clothes, perfume, hairstyle) anymore. In short, how would we really know our achievements, social or otherwise, is a result of our own efforts and not that of artificial pheromone enhancement?

Do you guys use pheromones every single day? Or only at times when you know there are certain significant events about to occur (e.g clubbing, interviews) and that you wish to influence it? I, for one, wish to treat a girlfriend as the way I truly am, and would never wish to use pheromones to influence her way of thinking one way or another - I can’t live with myself if she ever found out about me using things to influence her behavior around me while keeping it behind her back (a concept agonizing enough for me), which brings us back to whether our achievements are self-earned. Or maybe I am just a naive 21 y/o who knows too little about the world :frowning:

Also, if everyone starts using pheromones, won’t a critical mass be hit someday, where half the people in the club/workforce are actually wearing pheromones and influencing their interactions with each other? Will chaos not ensue?

Well, whew… what an exceedingly long post! But I feel like I got a load off my chest :slight_smile: Please, if you do not wish to read thru the whole chunk of words, I humbly ask for you to advise me regarding the section “Urgent Matters” - its red for a reason, it concerns my future. While it may seem distasteful to read what I wish to do to secure a place in a local university, I can only say in my defense, that I wish to be in charge of my future (because no one else can), that I hope that I have impressed upon you how much time, effort and consideration I have put in with regards to my further education, and that I sincerely wish for help (even non-phero tips!) from members of the forum.
Let me end off with a quote that applies to my unconventional university application, and perhaps to all of your lives too:

“Boldness has genius, power and magic in it.”
– Johann Wolfgang Von Goethe

Well, that’s it! I plan on actively participating in this forum and thank you so much for having me as a member of the community!!!

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Hello there

Welcome to Pherotalk :slight_smile:

Well that was a wonderful intro. I cant believe your introverted LOL

Your urgent issues >>>

I would go with A314. They have it both in oil and spray. I like the oil for men but its to expensive for some. The spray works well to watch your dosage as it diffuses faster and hits a little harder and can be intimidating. You may need to buffer it more but we will get to that later.

Chasing girls >>>>

I would go with AMMO and IO

Ammo for a cool confident sexy mildly arousing attractive vibe.

IO to help convos flow better and open people up. It also increases attraction.

Questions >>>

No if your already deep and good at connecting it will just enhance that not make it over done. If your already this way most times you wont feel anything from the mones your wearing because they match your natural vibe.

No they don’t change you or your personality. Pheromones enhance whats already there. They make it easier to change certain behaviors like being overly nervous or shy but they don’t make you do anything you don’t want to do.

Yes and no. When you all sweaty and working out that smell you smell is part of your pheromone signature. That scent is there all the time you just don’t pick up on it as well normally because its your smell. Your used to it and its not part of your conscious thought. Everyone has a scent you just don’t notice it.

People also smell other peoples pheromones. Its not a conscious thought though. Pheromones work in the subconscious mind. Our brains process these signals by releasing certain neurotransmitters which effect how we react to these signals.

I can smell pheromones and tell the difference just from scent between them because I am conscious of them and I used them long enough to know there nature. But if your worried others will know your wearing mones or you smell like BO thats not the case. They wont consciously smell them. They may consciously smell the carrier but they wont connect it to mones.

Its a blog site and there is nothing wrong with it. I have one unrelated to mones. He may be honest but they are just his experiences and pheromones are not one size fits all. I may be bias but I don’t agree A314 should be Number 14 on his list. Especially after seeing some of the crap above it on the list but what works well for one wont for another. So its hard to say if Kyles site is any good or if he is even using the products correctly. He is a reviewer not a pheromone expert.

IMO …

Pheromax is mild and social. It may be Bull crap to the inexperienced with mones. Once you know mones and get past that skeptical side you do see hits with it. They are just not blatant nor of a sexual nature.

SOE, A314, A7 and NPA are excellent products.

Liquid trust is bullshit in a bottle. Oxytocin is to heavy of a molecule and has to short of a life span outside the body to act as a pheromone. It doesn’t work well in a airborne formula. It has to be sprayed directly into the nasal passage and absorbed.

You will have to ask the Singaporeans that. People come and go. Yes it takes practice and patience to learn to use mones. Its not easy to mimic mother nature. Some people have the patience and some dont they just want magic in a bottle and there is no pheromone like that in the world. They are simply a tool to help increase communication.

There is a first responder bonus. If you one of the first three responders to a thread then you earn points good on money off your next purchase to the smartmones store. You can tell who is just trying to earn points and who is seriously reading they newcomers questions and trying to help just by how much they participate in the forum and how well they respond to questions. Some people just copy and paste basically the same thing over and over and care little about truly helping new people. Its not my system though and they let them do it so its not my concern.

Mones simply communicate information and people process that information and react with a behavior change. Its just a small part of attraction and people wont forget all the other prerequisites that create interest in others just because mones are present. They just enhance.

For instance if your sending a signal that says Confident sexy interesting male. Women process and pinpoint where that signal is coming from. Those are attractive signals. So she starts sending signals of interest by responding to your signals.

Now imagine your sending a nervous uncomfortable non sexy signal. Its still a signal and women will pinpoint and process. However those attributes are not exactly attractive so they don’t signal back. The guy may be great other then those vibes he is sending to her subconscious but he will never get the chance because she is not attracted to the signal.

Synthetic mones just open the door, you still have to walk in that door and impress them.

I dont think we need to worry about critical mass in this lifetime. Mones have been known about for a long time. Cleopatra used her own and Napoleon always wrote to Josephine to not wash for 3 days before he came home because her natural scent turned him on. Eww LOL

They are not new. Commercially they have been around since the 60’s but basically its a technology still in its infancy. People are either scared of them or not open minded when it comes to them so I don’t see the world switching over any time soon.

If you have any more questions just ask. I look forward to chatting with you in the forum

Tisha

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wow thank you Tisha! The reply was really great and insightful, you did a great job answering all my questions regarding pheromones :slight_smile: I had been looking through some sticky threads… and my god my head is spinning now, there’s just too much information of take in despite having done some research last time. The part about MX mixing was complicated…

Well that’s good isn’t it, means I feel comfortable talking in the forum - I’m certainly not trying to act loud/cheery over the internet :stuck_out_tongue: Strangely it is much easier to open up regarding personal issues over the net - maybe its the anonymity (or that perceived :roll_eyes:)

Thank you for taking the effort to explain how pheromones play a part in our daily lives - I think my impression of the influence pheromones have on social interactions was a tad skewed. Can’t believe they have been around since the 60’s, they must have been smelly like the ones SteveO said he used last time.

errr Tisha… I think you forgot to get to that :slight_smile:

All in all I think Tisha’s post was great but I would wish for more information about the kind of pheromones I should use regarding my issues, namely the uni application.

  1. Should I only use A314 in all the situations (1a to 1d)?

  2. How much should I use (general no. of sprays, type e.g oil/spray, and concentration)? I did put their gender, age and ethnicity in, those must certainly matter right?
    I know the part regarding finding the sweet spot, and I do have the time for it (I said urgent, but its more of the largest issue I have at hand, application begins in March and appeals start in May so I could have 1-2 months to test my purchases out). I have also seen articles illustrating the difference between oil/spray of A314.

  3. Can, or rather SHOULD I try out IH, IO and IS in addition to A314 for my meetings with the Member of Parliament, professors, deans, whatnot) and interviews?

  4. Is A314 really that good? o.O everyone seems to rave about it, like how subtle yet useful it is.

If you guys have any tips for university applications or in trying to appeal for an interview, please do share it too!

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Hi Lineweed, and welcome to the mone forum! Tisha is an excellent, high class, mone user for sure!! Kudos to her post!

I can see A314 as a very serious vibe that will get others to sometimes feel intimidated by it’s signal. By buffer, that is mitigate this vibe but still have the R.E.S.P.E.C.T. that comes with A314, you can use IShine or IH to accomplish this.

It’s good that you have a month or two to test it out and I’d suggest you start up a journal to document the usage and responses to your applications. You’ll also have a wider range of experienced users that’ll be able to view your journal. Not as many come into the Intro discussions as the really juicy stuff is in the mens and womens forums! :smiley:

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Thank you for the reply 1Alpha :smiley: Hmmm seems that you are right, not many replies going through the introduction forum within 3 days… Neither has Mickaelia paid a visit yet…

Should i buy oil or spray for A314 - esp for the interviews and meetings? I’m under the impression oil is harder to OD, its effects are more subtle, but it lasts longer (4-5) hours right? The spray is more hard hitting, but since most of the people I wish to make an impression on are in their 40s-50s…

If I wish to get more help, should i post my issue in the Men’s discussion forum? If not where?

1Alpha you seem to be familiar with the MBTI… any tips for an INFP user?

Once the GC comes along i will probably give my order, the year is ending soon and I should start this project as part of my new years resolution! Not sure how long it takes to ship to Singapore… then i can start a journal and document my hits and ODs!

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Not a big deal, about this side of the forum, but, yeah, the more experienced users will chime into your journal. However, I find that a journal keeps thing nice and tidy in the sense that I can go back and check up on what worked, when it worked, and what was happening at the time.

I personally prefer the A314 oil and am working on my second bottle. I’ll be ordering another one soon as I’m about a months worth left of the stuff. As all mones, it’s an INFLUENCER that will help project that King of the Hill vibe… I use it almost every day. The cool thing, with extended usage and then stopping, that same Alpha Commander vibe is still registered in others around you. So, as long as your ATTITUDE demonstrated that vibe, you’re golden!
As to why I prefer it, I like that it has a slower diffusion rate and will last me over 10 hours… I can set it in the morning and forget about it until the evening. The oil does that… the alcohol base of the A314/a and /b will last you a shorter time as it will evaporate faster. Depending on the humidity and heat, which in Singapore is something to keep in mind…
Doesn’t mean I DON’T use the A314/a and /b. I do because if I will not have as much time with my targets, within 5 minutes, I want the chemical signal to hit fast, I use the spray.

For a new user, if you did do the spray, go for the A314/b. It is more similar in effectiveness to a drop of oil, but, it hits faster and dies down faster.
Really depends on what you want to accomplish, how much time you have with the target audience, and what is YOUR sweet spot, best results from a certain amount of application of the mone.

If you look at Tisha’s how to know what are hits thread, you can start focusing on your NON mone results and responses from others. It’ll help you better see how mones will work out for you. You could post up a question or two on the Men’s discussions as well.

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Welcome to pherotalk Linweed!

Wow! What an introduction and of course my team especially the lovely tish knows how to break down intros like these, disect them and give you on point guidance.

I can’t wait to hear all about your experiences.

Your gc was issued! :slight_smile:

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Your welcome, It can be overwhelming. Your not going to mix so don’t worry to much about that. We layer these products. This gives you much more control and versatility. You only “mix” with single molecule pheromones and you need quite a bit of understanding of each putative to do that. The MX’s are generally already formulated into mix form. People tend to confuse the word Mix in here. So sometimes you will see someone posted about a mix of products they used but they didn’t actually “mix it” in a bottle. The layered it on the body. The correct term is combo but even I forget to use it sometimes.

Yes.

Oils start with 2 drops. Slower diffusion and less hard hitting so less chance of OD.

Sprays start with 1

Yes you can and this is the part about buffering. A314 can come across as intimidating making some people uncomfortable. Its like being around the alpha male. Different personalities respond different to the Alpha. Some people cling to the alpha and some people feel threatened or competitive and others feel wary or intimidated. Buffering with social helps tone some of that down without eliminating the positive aspects of A314. What you use to buffer is going to depend more on how you feel you come across when using A314 on its own.

My picks would be Ishine or IH to buffer with.

Ishine gives a warm charm to A314 helping those who feel intimidated a feeling of well being.

IH would cause more connection and trust
giving those threatened or feeling competitive and feeling of connection or camaraderie

I dont know your professors so your going to have to make that call yourself.

It is very good. However it can be subtle depending on how you interact with people now. People who already know you sort of process the change in vibe as you maturing and growing. Those who dont know you well process it as a pure alpha signal. It takes some time to pick up on cues with this one. Check online and read up on body language basics. It will make it easier for you to see reactions.

Tisha