Hey buddy thanks for the reply
I don’t mean to toot my own horn (but I should be able to get more targeted advice, and more advanced social interaction advice without people assuming I will fall prey to more basic mistakes - by describing where I’m at and where I’ve come from etc), but I’m kind of an expert, at least in many things
like in the “how do i know if im getting hits” it says “Body language, Learn to read it.” lol, I’ve got like 4 years experience with body language, and others come to me to learn about body language 
TONS of great info in the links though, I’ll definately read through them and some of them I havent read yet 
I guess I should admit that I’ve had ALOT of demand locally for me to teach the guys pickup, but havent really done it that often as I originally got in the game ~5 years ago for myself, though when I have taught guys they got great results, like a guy who was a total newbie had only slept with like 1 woman or something getting afew kisses and a phone # from a hot babe, incidentally during our training mission i picked up a woman and ended up sleeping with her 50+ times
and I did use pheromones for a long time, many many years ago
so I should at least be somewhat progressed on the “learning curve” already
That said, always looking forward to learning new things!
That said I am more accustomed to getting results like thomaslavoie’ in A simple spray of TUTH (during the time i was doing well - which isnt now lol) than dealing with some of the newbish issues I see posted here that no longer even exist for me
I’ve put on weight, started smoking, been out of the game, been under stress etc so its going to take a while before I get back to where I was though
I mean I’ve done 5 minute f closes, picking up strippers etc with no -mones and whilst not even being spectacularly good looking or anything
So I fully expect as I gear up and get back in the game, to be getting some good results
hmm I have put on quite alot of weight though lol which is making me feel abit insecure, it will take ages to burn that weight off too
With pheromones I want to eventually find a panty dropper mix lol, -mones plus my game = instant HB9 wanting to sleep with me and we do it
I’ve done that before (i.e. literally meeting multiple HB9s and soon after they want to sleep with me so we do) however I was doing very well back then it was a while ago and im abit messed up atm its gonna be a while before im back on top of things
I’m thinking A314 or IG + TUTH + IH + IS + P83 might be a good panty dropper mix combined with good game and (know what you’re doing) fast escalation
Its also ok if me and the girl go through a less speedy seduction