Greetings To All. Pheromones for Work/Professional and Social/Sexual. M/24

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I just wanted to introduce myself to everyone here and say that I’ve been following this site for some time but finally made the move to sign up and join.

I’ve been fascinated with pheromones ever since I learned that the strongest emotional responses are evoked by smells. I have this cologne that my brother gave me before my whole family went on a European vacation several years back. Now, it isn’t anything expensive nor does it have the best scent I’ve ever tried but it was a nice gesture on his part and I’ll never forget it. While in Europe (Italy specifically), I used this cologne almost daily. Now every time I smell the cologne again (don’t use it daily), I am instantly hit with the most intense and vivid memories of Italy and near euphoric feelings. This drove me to do more research on smells and how they effect our brains.

Our olfactory system is rather fascinating and the fact that smells create more nostalgic moments than sight or touch is mind-blowing to me. Another example would be how a certain perfume has a near immobilizing effect on my entire body. My muscles ‘seize’ and it’s almost impossible for me to move. It is as if I’ve been injected with a muscle relaxer/tranquilizer and get a ridiculous ‘high’. The first time I smelled this perfume was in an art class I was suffering through in college. The girl next to me wore it one day and I about face-planted on the desk. I don’t recall a single word spoken by the teacher that day. I struggled to get up after class and forced myself to ask her what it was that she was wearing. This little pink perfume is called ‘Chance: Eau Tendre’ by Channel. Women: wear this and you’ll never need any pheromones to attract guys…not that you need pheromones in the first place (;

Well I had to know the name in case I ever got a girlfriend, right? Years later, I met my current gf (coming up on two years now). I found out not too long into our relationship that this perfume has been her favorite since high school (what luck on my part huh?!). I plan to buy it again for her soon but we are both financially tight at the moment and this perfume isn’t cheap. A decent sized bottle is $105.

Anyways, I swear they put pheromones in this. Other guys claim to really like it but I don’t know how many have the same ‘full-bodied’ reaction I do. I know a lot of smells are individual (everyone smells slightly different with any specific cologne/perfume on) and every person smells scents differently.

Well I’m looking to ‘return the favor’ for my gf and find a really good cologne and pheromone to add or just a pre-made combo cologne/pheromone.

So all this being said, I wanted to get the honest opinions of others who know more and have more experience with pheromones. Guys and gals, what do you recommend from the store here? I want a good one that will not only be pleasing/attracting but also sexually arousing. Again, whether it’s a pheromone you add to cologne or a pre-made mixture of the two, I’m impartial. Whatever works, works. I’m open to your ‘top two’ if you think mixing/rotating pheromone usage is smart. This is all new turf to me.

Thanks a million and looking forward to continuing reading your posts and having great conversations with you all :smiley:

Best,
James

P.s. If you didn’t get the reference, my username is modeled after ‘Lenny’ played by Matt Damon in Oceans 13. If you still don’t get it, watch the movie or look up ‘Oceans 13 pheromone scene’ and ‘Oceans 13 the nose plays scene’.

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Hey Nose! Welcome to the forums!

Yeah, I got interested in pheromones because I had an incident this past summer in meeting a guy who literally got me acting like a teenager all over again. (I’m gay and 48.) I told him that his body odor was intoxicating, and I really couldn’t get enough of it. Long story short, his scent triggered memories of my first boyfriend from high school. I experienced the gamut of emotions of when I was a teenager. It was very intense and irrational. But that experience got me interested in pheromones.

I would recommend reading Conjurator’s journal. He’s done a bunch of testing with pheromones and colognes. He would be a good person to chat with if you need advice on pairing colognes with pheromone products.

Justintime’s journal is also a good read. He’s a great tester and has a good grasp on pheromones.

As for specific recommendations for you, given your age, I would suggest Ammo (regular strength). It’s a good all-around product that you can use solo. It has both sexual and social pheromones, but is well balance that you can use it at work and at the bars.

Along with Ammo, I would recommend Instant Gentleman. This is a great product for guys in their 20s. It will give you an aura of maturity, smartness, and credibility. It will also give you a sense of grounded confidence. Use this at work, and you will get the attention of your supervisors. Use it in combo with Ammo, and you will come across as a smart, sexy young man who has his life together.

Instant Shine and Instant Openness are also great products to encourage conversation and flirting. IShine will make women around you feel good, while IO will help them feel comfortable to talk to you.

All of the products are specifically formulated and scented, so I don’t recommend combing them with colognes, such as pouring them into a bottle of cologne. You will offset the ratios and potency of the products if you do that. Instead, they should be used individually or layered if you choose to use two or more products. You can add a cover scent, but that’s often not necessary.

Check out the Intro Pack for Men. It has the products I mentioned, and some. It would be a great way to learn more about pheromones while increasing your social and communication skills.

The other guys on the forum will likely chime in and offer their recommendations.

Good luck!

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if only has to be selected, i will go with AMMO + IS
start with 1x version. 2 sprays each . then increase and find your sweet spot.

keep posting and take care

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Hi Thenoseplays91,
Welcome. Ammo and Instant Shine is a great place to start as Spectrum has suggested. You will get immediate results and they are easy to wear. It is important to figure out for yourself how much to wear. I have been using pheros for years and I am constantly tweaking my “dosages” and I am finding that I am lowering my doses more often than raising them, with a few exceptions.

Give it a try and keep track of your results here on the board with a journal. Good luck!

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Thank you Hank, Spectrum and Celtic!

I appreciate the the feedback and advice. I will definitely be considering those ones and will be making my first purchase soon.

So let me ask you this…what are the best combos of 2 different pheromones for the following scenarios:

*Work/professional–I’m in sales (both a Realtor and Sales Associate at a car dealership). I’m looking for something that will help me out business-wise. Something that will give off an air of confidence, experience, maturity and trust. Do these pheromones effect men and women or just women? I’m hoping for something that makes anyone feel comfortable around me and that they can trust me (they can, I’m honest, professional and not at all a typical pushy salesman). I’ve been told that for my age (24) I act much older and have an air of natural confidence and charisma. I’m hoping to elevate this a bit. Given that most of the people I work with in real estate are twice my age and have been doing this since I was in middle school (some longer than I’ve been alive), they have more experience and thus are likely to gain more/better clients as a result. I do my best to not let my age-appearance effect my business by showing people I’m just as capable if not more so than other more ‘aged and experienced’ agents.

*Social/Sexual–I’m thinking about pairing InstantGentleman with TurnUpTheHeat. I know people keep mentioning ‘IShine’ and ‘IOpenness’. What about Alpha and Ammo. What combos are best for attraction/creating chemistry/driving women mad (sexually) about & towards me?

Thank you, guys and gals!

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Only 2 pheromones? Given your situation and age, I’d use Instant Gentleman and Ammo. Use IG at work. It’ll give you greater credibility with your clients. Sometimes it’s difficult to take a 20-something year old seriously. (I’ve been there!) IG will get you past that and build stronger trust with your clients.

Use both IG and Ammo when you’re at the bars. Yeah, you can use TUTH, but you better have very good social skills to build rapport with women. If your timing is off or you don’t have good rapport building skills, TUTH will be a waste of time and effort. As I mentioned before, IG and Ammo will make you look like a smart, sexy young man who has his shit together. If you can’t build rapport with women with that combo, you might need to look at your game!

If you can swing it, definitely check out the Intro Pack for Men. It’ll give you more tools to work with in a wide variety of situations. A314 might be useful, but most guys in their mid 20s find IG better suited for their persona. A314 is more of an executive vibe, which is better matched with a guy in his 30s and up. IG is much more approachable, and it will still give you an alpha vibe.

After the moderator reviews this thread, you’ll get a GC in your mailbox.

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Hank, you’re officially my master Yoda.

Excellent advice! I will add IG and Ammo to the list. Probably won’t try the starter kit yet, but with the GC I should be able to swing for 3-4 products. I can’t wait to be 30 haha. Alpha and I will rule the world together.

My game is pretty good. Was a pick up artist for a bit but not the ‘outer-game’ spewing, cocky, cold and uncaring, manipulative douchebags you hear about from the pick up books, websites/forums, youtube channels, seminars and TV. I was ‘inner-game’ through and through. My mentor never taught me to “say this when she says that” or “stand this way” or “neg her”. I wasn’t one of those assembly line-produced robots from the bootcamps offered around the country. I am not a ‘social engineer’ like some of these guys. Pick up isn’t engineering and you can’t reverse-engineer women or reduce them to calculations. It’s all about feelings and giving off the right vibe/energy. Learn your ‘energy’, improve it and then be able to tap into other people’s energies. Also I learned quickly that social dynamics and rapport building is about genuinely (not self-forced) being interested in them, caring, curious, etc… Pretty much Dale Carnegie’s How to Win Friends and Influence People. Most people who appear to ‘naturally’ be gifted with amazing charisma, influence, contacts and social skills actually work on their skills quietly and intensely. But they don’t want others to know it’s not natural, because then it’s viewed as less ‘cool’ or ‘genuine’ or ‘talent-based’ and ‘gifted’. They test, observe, reflect and analyze and then tweak and hone their skills, improving them daily and re-applying later on. Social skills are a science and once you learn it, and you adapt naturally to it, it becomes your skill and is no longer forced or a facade. Just my thoughts, sorry for the tangent.

So for my shopping cart, let’s say:
(1) IG (for work)
(2) Ammo (work and play?)
(3) TUTH (play) and…
(4) Would you advise IO or IS (I heard IO is good for work or play and IS is good for play/social).

Thoughts?

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I wouldn’t go as far to say I’m Master Yoda! While I have a good grasp on human psychology (as part of my former career), I’m relatively new to pheromones. It just seems a natural fit given my background.

Yeah, Dale Carnegie’s techniques ares pretty much the way I build rapport. One of the best ways to get conversations started is to ask questions, lots of questions. When people feel a genuine interest coming from you, they’re more likely to relax and be themselves. Way better than PUA techniques.

With TUTH, use that only after you have built rapport with a woman. When you sense she’s interested in you and might be willing to take to the next level, spritz on a spray or two of TUTH. (You’ll need to do this in the bathroom, away from her presence.) This will reduce any last minute resistance. (Be careful about using too much TUTH and Ammo. You’re young, so you’re producing lots of sexual pheromones already. If you use too much, you will likely intimidate your targets.)

As for IO or IShine, this one is a toss up. I use IShine only in conjunction with A314, so you could possibly use it with Ammo or IG. I tend to use IO when I need to be more social, but I’m not quite in the mood to be social. I use IShine when I want to impress someone, whether it’s social or professional.

So it would depend on your target. If you tend to be attracted to demure, shy women, then go with IO to help them feel more comfortable talking about themselves. This will help you appear like boyfriend material. Otherwise IShine keeps the mood light and effervescent, while attracting more gregarious women at the clubs.

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Hi TheNosePlays91,

Awesome screen name love it. Sounds like everyone has covered you pretty well. Sounds like you like to research and are looking into scent as well which is good. I would look into Conjurator journal and he has a lot of experience with different colognes and Hedione also.

For myself I am getting into Essential Oils and trying to make my own type of unique cologne that will work with the pheromones to help lift them off my skin and into the air. I have had pretty good luck so far looks promising. I posted a few in my journal and what I got if you are interested.

I actually got to the Essential Oils because I tried mixing pheromones and diluting them and making my own mixes and found it was just a mess. Even with the single molecules it was just a big mess and nothing really mixed right. So I would get whatever you think fits you from AD and then if you want more advice you can always send me a PM and I will help you out to.

A really good cologne and pheromones can work great together and if done right the cologne will actually help lift the pheromones off your skin and into the air.

Good Luck

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I couldn’t agree more, questions are key and Carnegie got everything right about rapport building.

So you mentioned IO and IShine in the ‘playful’ setting, but how about professionally…would either (or both) of these work well when stacked with IG?

If: IG + IS + IO or IG + (IS or IO) work well together, could you then add Ammo as the third or fourth scent or would that be too many conflicting scents/pheromones. Still can’t get a solid feel from reading the posts whether or not Ammo is more suited for work or play.

Like you said, since I’m 24, IG sounds like a good product. I guess I’m curious whether or not IG is essentially the same as A314 but a younger guy’s version? Hypothetically, if I were to wear A314 instead of IG would that be too much on those around me and make me seem ‘off’ or ‘somethings wrong with this guy’?

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Thank you, I like your name too!

I know I’ve bombarded you all with questions since I’m a newbie and I really appreciate everyone’s patience and advice.

I will definitely check out yours, Conjurator’s and the one’s Hank has mentioned. You’re right, it’s about personal experimentation. I guess I’m trying to gauge whether or not there is a consensus for certain combos that just don’t work (or one’s that do)–this will cut my learning curve significantly.

If you have any thoughts on my above post about the combos I hypothetically stacked for a professional setting like work or socially in general (not seduction-oriented), I’d really appreciate it.

Hope everyone has a great day.

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No, IG is NOT the same as A314. In terms of alpha male qualities, A314 is the protector, while IG is the provider. At your age, it would be difficult to pull of the protector persona. If you don’t pull it off, no one would believe you and A314 would be a wasted effort. It’s easier to pull of the provider persona - mature, smart, social, respectful, conscientious. Think of it as a difference between being a congressman and a senator. It’s easier to pull off a persona to get elected to the House, but it’s a lot harder to pull off the persona to get elected into the Senate. That persona must be backed up with tons of life experience.

It’s best not to over think this. You can really trip yourself up and create combos that are too complicated. Keep things simple. I rarely use more than two products at a time. If I do, the third product is usually a single molecule, such as a putative.

While you can use IG and Ammo together, you can add a third formula, either IO or IShine. If I had to choose, I’d go with IO since Ammo already has some social pheromones in it. IO will ensure the conversations flow freely and readily while still keeping the mood light.

Ammo can be used successfully at work as well as at the bars. However, you will need to gauge if Ammo is the type of vibe that you want - social with some sexual tension. If you work in a restaurant or bar setting where you’re allowed to be social and slightly flirty, then Ammo is OK. It may increase your tips. If you work in sales, you’re better off leaving Ammo at home and using IG instead. IG is useful if you need to impress clients or build trust and credibility.

Again, no need to over think this. My recommendations are only based on my experience. You might have a different experience altogether. Try them out in various situations. If you get the results you like, then continue with them. If you don’t get the results you wanted, then make the appropriate adjustments. Communication is an art rather than a science. Recommendations have a certain level of probability of working. Since I’m not there to fully assess your personality and situation, I can only provide my best educated guess of what is most appropriate for you. After that, you have to take the reins. But, we’re still here to help you out if you get stuck.

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Thanks HankBuddy,

Ok one last question and then I’ll shut up about theory and order so I can actually use them and analyze their effects.

For work: I’m thinking about IG, IS and IH (recommended by the Conjurator) I guess I’m conflicted between IH and IO…IO makes yourself and others more open and IH makes others honest. In terms of work, I have no clue which would be better than the other. They sound like they essentially do the same thing.

For play: Ammo, IS and when it is needed, TUTH

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LOL! Yeah, even I get caught up in theory. In the end though, it’s all about practice. This is why pheromones is an art rather than a science.

I use IH in my business, too. IH creates better bonding with others. This can be useful at work when you want cooperation from coworkers. IO simply gets people chatty and social, but not necessarily bonding with you. IH tells others you’re trustworthy and capable of being a reliable friend. IO tells others that they can be social and engage in small talk with you. IG, IShine, and IH is a good, reliable combo for work. Switch to IO if you want to be more social.

Ammo and IShine is a fine combo, too. However, try Ammo solo, and then try it with IShine. Sometimes IShine doesn’t add too much to Ammo, not as much as IO, at least in my experience. Again, it’s all about finding what works based on your personality, age, body chemistry, and situation.

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I always liked art more than science anyways so woo!

What business are you in, if you don’t mind me asking?

Ok well here we go. Ordering: IG, IS, IH, Ammo and TUTH

Jesus, take the wheel because I have no clue what kind of situations I’m gonna get myself into. 24, wildly energetic (though mature and reserved when required…wink) and a tad bit foolish is a bad enough combo as is. Hmmm…let’s douse myself in pheromones and see what happens next!

P.S. Least we all forget: One of the most important things to add to our stacks (when in a social setting of course, not work…no…never work, we wouldn’t dare do that…) is the almighty social sweetener, the king of conversations, the inhibition assassinator and the ice-breaking dynamite; a little something called Ethanol, AKA ‘What’ll it be, old sport?’.

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Sounds like a good first order. And yeah, Jack Daniels has done me some wonders when I’m mones.

The first two or three times you’ll likely go overboard with the pheromones. Everyone does that. After that you start being more methodical when you realize those darn to-go bottles have a very limited amount of juice in them. Once you get to see them in action, you’ll likely feel more comfortable getting them in 30 mL size. I’m gradually replacing my togo vials with larger bottles as I run out.

As for my business, let’s just say I make stuff for very wealthy hippies. :wink: I also work as a consultant of sorts.

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Yeah, it was a nice chunk of change to fork over for those 5 to-go bottles but I’m sure it will be worth it and as you suggest, slowly replacing them with the larger versions as I run out and learn what I like and will use most.

Cool, enough said. Not a bad target market to work with either.

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Greetings TNP!

Welcome to PheromoneTalk! :slight_smile:

I am about to inform you that the GC was sent into your email but, I guess you already got it and put it in good use. :slight_smile:

Congratulations on your first purchase and I am now eagerly waiting for the NosePlaying Journal to come out. :slight_smile:

Happy New Year! :slight_smile:

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Yay. Congrats on the order. Start the new year with some great reports. You can count on our support.