I was having dinner with my SO and mother (my mother is old like 70’s).
Anyways everything seemed good. I was wearing IS Ammo in the morning, and put on 2 sprays of a314 and IS in the afternoon.
When we headed out for dinner my mother seemed to want to argue with everything I said, always wanting to have the last word, and with me wearing a314 I basically felt high on pride and ridiculed her siblings who my SO and I don’t invite to our home. We don’t have anything against them but we are not close.
Anyways my mother thinks that I don’t speak to them because they are low status compared to us so she goes and tries to ridicule me because I am on health leave from my company. The a314 makes me argue back and feel high on pride, but she see’s me as lower status and ridicules back.
In the end we ended up having a long argument at dinner and I really wondered whether it was a314. I have gone through this process 2-3 times before with my mother while wearing a314. All 3 times she fights.
She is not alpha in any way but maybe sees me as a non alpha acting alpha and tries to cut me down.
I blame it on the low none content of the a314 which doesn’t shut her up. Anyways I wouldn’t wear any a314 around her anymore.
P.S anyone try any A314 and SOE. Now that is a true I see you as a low life combination. With that combination (which I didn’t wear to dinner) the SOE makes everyone talk to me even janitors and the A314 make me feel high on pride. Thus at a tim hortons I feel what are these low lifes doing talking to me. Without the A314 in there I talk to all of them.
I’m wondering if a314 is really the WRONG mone for me. It might work on someone who can back up alphaness by being a true alpha, but that’s about it. Soon as people discover I am not alpha I get cut down.
People who are closest to me like family who should be the most supportive of my health leave cut me down the most with a314 because they see me as non alpha acting alpha. Also my confidence is huge lately because my guitar playing skills are going through the roof. Although I am on health leave I earn a huge salary, and also I just bought $5000 worth of guitar equipment. I seem to see myself as a rockstar not a corporate employee.
Perhaps a more suitable mone signature is required .
same thing happened when i first wore a314 around my dad. The mones sent a message to your moms subconscious mind that threatened her sense of higher status having controlled you as a child, and thus her ego was in flux. I just let him get use to the signature and let him think whatever he wants so long as he isn’t running my life. Should prove to you mones work very well.
Your reasoning about your Mom’s sense of being an alpha getting threatened seems to be pretty much reasonable. Lets see what the other experienced users have to say about it.
A314 will give a high alpha signature and yes your mother was Alpha to you before you turned into a man. You needed her growing up. Some parents have trouble letting go and allowing there kids to be who they are and this is probably whats causing her reaction to the A314 signature.
However it didnt cause the argument. It takes two to argue and you did that yourself. Confidence which A314 evokes is different then pride.
There is nothing wrong with having pride in yourself or your accomplishments but being prideful without empathy or respect for others can come off just as your mother is saying…conveying that your better then those around you.
No one is better then the person next to them. You may be better at something but that is not the same as being a better person on a whole.
If you want to convey the A314 signature to your parents then listen when they speak, respect and appreciate their opinion even if its not your own. Doing that doesn’t mean you have to do what they are saying, follow there advice or beliefs. It just means you love and appreciate them. It gives them a sense that you still need them in your life.
That’s not what they are seeing you as until you start to argue and push your opinion on them. That’s when you lose your alpha and thats your doing not theirs. If they dont agree with your life style calmly look them in the eye, smile and say " Mom I know you love me and want me to be happy and I appreciate your opinion " Then follow your own path.
Wearing somethig like Ishine or IH will help tone down the “I know better then you” and increase the empathy vibe so try that.
I can respect the opinion of people who show me respect – for example your telling me how to behave or giving me your opinion but you don’t see me flaring up at you.
My mother is the type who wants the last word when I wear a314. She will not tolerate my decisions in life. She thinks she has to always give her advice and that because I am on health leave I am not in a position to command respect. The funny thing is she does it in a rude and blunt way without respect for how she speaks.
Now while I may also be contributing to this vibe by arguing back, why doesn’t she just hear my opinion and STFU? I think its the a314 and not me. When I wear other products I can state my opinion and she doesn’t argue back. For example Alpha 7.
I have a feeling the a314 is reminding her of my father and they argue a lot like an old married couple.
A314 works but one really has to be congruent with it to pull it off or all hell breaks loose.
I have friends that are like that when I wear or don’t wear A314. I still get challenged regardless. The key here is that being congruent with being alpha (A314 only helps) it is exactly how tisha puts it
Alpha is a state of being and A314 is what helps you with it. Any sense of incongruency with it, you will get tested and challenged. With parent’s especially you need to learn that they will always be in your business. I know this first hand until I explained to them simply that they have raised me to be an independent man, that they did a good job in raising me and filling me with values that they need to let those lessons manifest in real life situations. I also let them know that I will ask them for their opinion if the time arises and still respect what they have to say but asked them to let me develop myself so I can learn and make the decisions on my own.
Yeah a314 takes a bit of getting use to. I agree with Tisha it takes 2 to fight. It took me a bit to figure a314. When I first started using it it gave me confidence and a bit of arrogance. I would go to work and when there was a conversation I would keep trying to voice my opinion and they others would confront me about my opinions and it would turn into a contest of sorts.
Then it dawned on me..I was sending out alpha males signals but wasn’t acting as such. Once I figured it out I recognised the group dynamic. These guys babbling away at work trying to talk over eachother were all trying to establish themselves. I figured since I was wearing a314 I would be heard the loudest. Wrong.. so wrong so now I join these conversations and I let the dogs bark at eachother and I stand there and say nothing, as if I don’t need to compete. Now they will stop and ASK me what I think and when I talk about something they listen to what I say. I keep it short and to the point, maybe make it humorous at times. Then they go back to barking among themselves. It’s really quite something to see!
I think in a family setting the father and mother will always try to be top dogs and enjoy telling you whats right or not. I wear a314 at family functions and I find they respect more of what I have to say, but I don’t let my ego get in the way and tell them they are wrong. I always let them feel in the right. I mean what’s the harm right?
You are ultimately responsible for you words and actions, not the mones. If it was my mother (she’s 75), I would not have engaged her in a beef session no matter what she said. An alpha male is confident in themselves and thus has the wherewithal to keep a cool head and be a gentleman in these situations. Blaming the mones is like saying a couple beers made you hit on your friend’s wife.
I agree Gegogi an alpha male has inner confidence and doesn’t go around speaking with pride but I’m telling you A314 was the devil with my mother and I was VERY prone to its self effects. Its like it turned me into someone who HAD to have the last word and very high on pride.
I am TOTALLY opposite in personality when I don’t wear it. Very humble.
I’ve been wearing A314 almost daily for years, so the self-effects have long faded. I don’t feel a thing. I assume it will gradually fade for you or at least you’ll get used to the effects and deal with them better.
I remember as a young performer suffering from terrible stage fright, nearly to the point of hurling. Oddly I could play just fine. I merely felt like hell. In time I got used to the rush of adrenaline and, although my guts still twist a bit, I can handle it and in fact play better due to the aggressive energy and sharper wits. I think most things in life are that way. Something new throws you for a loof but you figure out how to deal via skool 'o hard knocks.
I dont think any of us are saying we dont believe you. We are just giving you some thoughts to think about so you wont have to avoid wearing A314 around her unless you choose to.
Some products dont mesh with some users. Instead of scrapping them I always look for solutions so the person has options when using the product.
For instance TAH or IS/B makes me feel vulnerable and out of sorts. I love the effect it has on others but not the feeling it gives me. So when I use it I either put a few dabs of TAL under my nose or use on spray right to my chest to off set the feeling.
I think perhaps the way A314 makes you feel is effecting your behavior and setting off your mother. Its not the A314 directly effecting her. Have you tried it in a combo with something like Ishine ? You mention you both like that one. Sometimes you need something to soften the vibe a bit.
Can I ask why you believe your not a Alpha ?
Did she say that. Did she say “you do not deserve respect because your on health leave”
Again are they saying they think your a non alpha acting alpha ? Family usually cut you down for 2 reasons. 1. They are jealous of you. 2. They are scared for you. I think its you who thinks your not a alpha but oddly from what your actions have been other then when your arguing with your mom you are showing signs of the Alpha.
You left a big corporate job were I am sure you make lots of money and have a measure of security and you are pursuing what speaks to your heart which is less secure and can take a while to earn big money in.
It takes a huge amount of confidence to do that. It takes a huge amount of confidence to play before a crowd. I think you have more alpha in you then you realize.
I think when your mom starts in and you respond by arguing your showing your doubt in yourself. That’s the only time your not congruent with A314.
Its just something to think about in the future if it happens again. In the mean time if you dont like wearing A314 around her you dont have to. Its up to you.
Thanks Tisha next month I’ll pick me some P83. Now that is the rock star vibe for personality and social image.
But what about for the rock star’s actual stage performance? That is not about dating, or social status but about nerves, focus, memory, attention, energy, confidence, skills in learning, rhythm in playing etc What mone combination will get a rock star “into” his performance?
When I wear edge I find my playing is distinctly different than when I wear Ammo/IS. On days when edge doesn’t backfire (use just 1 dab) I really get into a rhythm on the guitar almost like how tribal dancers got into rhythm before sex. It’s an insane feeling when it hits and nothing like a314, ammo or IS or probably even p83 which is what Iwill try next. It’s a feeling that helps ones playing performance, not just social life .
That’s going to be totally up to you. I find that most pheromones bring some sort of feeling of confidence. I like Ishine best for that. It can give you a sort of energetic vibe as well.
Focus I would suggest TAF and I think we talked about P102 to sharpen the senses and help you feel the music more which may or may not help with picking up rhythm.
But memory, skills are not feelings. Pheromones are not going to effect those. You can feel focused or feel sharp but you cant feel memory or feel skills (unless they are natural skills). Most skills are learned. So while I think pheromones can help a little they are not going to do the work for you.
That feeling is Euphoria. It comes from doing what you truly love and you can feel that feeling whether or not your good at what your doing. When someone is doing what they truly love and what speaks to there hearts others can see that euphoria and that connect the person has with his/her craft. Everything falls into place congruently and naturally.
Now being something and wanting to be something are two different things. I know you mentioned you "see yourself as a rock star not a corporate person.
Being something comes from having the skills as well as the feeling of euphoria connection and joy in what your doing.
Wanting to be something is more about preference. Its seeing something that looks fun, cool, interesting and makes you feel joy. You want to do or be that.
Its kinda hard to explain. I talked about this in another thread in the journals the other day and its a good example or what I am trying to convey.
My oldest son is very skilled at baseball. It comes natural to him. He was throwing 90 mph fast balls with accuracy at a young age and could throw all sorts of pitches that his coach wanted. In high school college scouts came to see him. Problem was he wasnt happy because he is not a baseball player. It doesn’t speak to his heart, it doesn’t give him joy. So he followed his wise mothers advice even though his father almost died of heart failure when he found out and followed his heart and now he is very successful and happy. My husband recovered as well LOL. My son is a “star” because he followed his heart.
Now there were kids on that team that didnt have the skill but just loved to play. They breathe, eat and sleep baseball. The joy of being on that field just shined like a beacon. They were baseball players. Some of them went on to college on scholarships and some didnt but I still see them filled with joy playing on the town leagues even though there jobs are something entirely different. They are “star’s” because they still are following there hearts.
The secret ingredient for having that “star” vibe is to both love and be naturally skilled at what you do. You dont have to do what you love professionally.
This is not to say that skills can not be learned. Some people take naturally and quickly to a skill and some people spend there lives trying to develop that skill. Either way if it gives you joy peace and happiness then its a path worth taking.
Just keep in mind that a job is something you do for money. Its not who you are unless that job gives you those feelings I spoke of and your naturally inclined to it. Unfortunately we live in a material world. I work for the postal service but if you ask me who I am I wont say a postal worker. That’s just what I do for money and I enjoy it (except in winter LOL) . Who I am is a coach. I love helping other people find happiness and success. I may not be the best coach in the world but I am good at it and learn new skills to share all the time. It gives me joy. I dont have to give up my job to do that. I do it everyday.
I know that people say… “If you do what gives you joy for a job you will never work a day in your life” But sometimes when you turn what gives you joy into a job its changes what gives you joy. It becomes work, something you have to do instead of something you love to do.
So I am not telling you what to do or not do. I just get the feeling that you think there are only two choices and you have to pick one or the other… Be a rock star or be a corporate guy. There is one more choice that I am not sure if you considered.
Be a corporate guy while you work on being a rock star. Get established and skilled first then transition from one to the other. This may be something you have been doing before your health leave. I dont know but if not its something to consider. You can have both if they both serve you in some way. This way if you never become a professional rock star you still are doing what gives you joy and gives you a feeling of well being.
Tisha is one of the best contributors on this forum. She only has positive things to say or gives constructive criticism when needed. She goes out of her way to help.. She even asked one of her doctors for help related to one of my queries.
I really appreciate her being on the forum. And she posts just about every day something insightful, useful, and positive.
Well the ammo would depend mostly on your personal dosage seeing as it has anone in it. I would suggest using Ishine at a 2 to 1 ratio. P83 is dependant on what MCG you purchase. Around 40 to 60 mcgs works well for that rock star vibe. Higher if you want them to throw there panties at you …snort J/K
You can use lower amounts of P83 if you just going for a more mild “star” quality vibe and just want to create more sexual tension and an awareness of sexuality. I find that P83 reactions can be seen best in people body language. The ammo and Ishine create attraction comfort and interest, a pull to you of sorts, while the P83 helps them let go of inhibitions and get in touch with there sensuality which they then direct at you. I love P83. It took me a while to see it because without other pheromones it has limited pull to you but used with the right products its lethal.
Of course as I always say with every product test to see what dosage works for you and be sure to try P83 on its own and report.
Thank you both, your making me blush LOL. :o I like a forum setting over a blog. Its more personal and you can get to know people better. It has more of a community feeling to me.
