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Hi Guys,

I just found this forum and I am interested in your products.

I will give a short version of whats going on and why I want to try these products.

I have been engaged for about a year now, and things started off well but have gone down hill. When we were dating things were great, we both seemed to have stars in our eyes.

The second we bought a house and I gave her a ring things changed. She seemed to change, perhaps I did too. We both seemed to get caught up in paying bills vs being with eachother.

She has done some things which have hurt me quite a bit. I am able to forgive her but I am not sure if she is willing to take the steps to move in the right direction.

I am looking for a product to basically help her become more attracted to me once again. If I made her fall in love with me once, I know I can do it again.

I am thinking AMMO and TUTH might be a good idea. Thoughts?

Jon

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Hello Jon,

This is not a situation that offers easy recommendations. I’d need to know a thing or two more about this situation. Initially, I’m not exactly seeing AMMO or TUTH here. What you’re looking for is something with very few downsides. I don’t think AMMO will hurt, but it’s not really a relationship builder. IH can be, but it can open the floodgates of hurt, repressed feelings. P74 could be useful here, but it is not a consumer product and is not guaranteed. There are, however, many positives to 74 and not many negatives for couples. In the Instant Line, Instant Shine is the answer. What you need are more good feelings and fewer bad ones. The home is in need of more joy and less discord. That’s my first impression. We’ll need your feedback to move further.

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Hello,

Well what would you like to know? I was thinking TUTH to perhaps bring back the sex life. We have it, but she is “tired” a lot. I was thinking shine might be a good idea, if she is happy when im around then how is that a bad thing, right?

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Yes. I was still typing. :smiley: AMMO and Shine would be my choice. See comments above. However…where happiness goes, sex follows. Not always vice versa. A blast of -eNone at a woman holding back feelings of hostility may only backfire. Lwatkins has a good journal here. Troubled situations usually benefit from comfort. Use Shine regularly for a time. When the time is right, then the AMMO. A TOGO A M M O lasts a good while. Shine, not as much. Invest in the bigger Shine bottle. Women choose when and with whom to offer sex. That means being a fun, happy (though still manly) person.

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OK fair enough. For the price I may get a bottle of each, so I dont have to pay shipping down the road.

I think you are right, comfort then sex. Thank you

Perhaps I will do an update at some point.

I just need my cupon! :slight_smile:

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Hey man, welcome to the forum!

GC’s are handed out manually by Mickaelia - she usually drops by this part of the forum every other day. Just be patient, she’ll post here when the GC has been e-mailed to you.

Monesmadedoit has given some excellent product recommendations. You’re in a tricky situation as said. If the sexual part is mainly the problem - yes Ammo+IS will boost your sex appeal.

If there are more underlying problems, maybe you could benefit from some A314. Women in the 30+ range really start to react well to this product. I’m in my mid 20s, and I always get attention from 30+ women when wearing this. It’s an alpha blend, that enhances your status and makes you look like a dependable, confident man. Definitely someone women would wanna settle down with.

Just my 2 cents. Let us know if you have any questions.

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My opinion, she is attracted to you, but some resentment is holding that back. Deep connection and bonding will reveal her feelings and their source. I say crack open the floodgates of deep communication (hurt though it may), and let her see that she can’t ruffle your feathers with whatever scary feelings she’s repressing. This is where the self-effects of some 'mones come in handy. You are the one she should be able to tell anything. Take the blame for how you make her feel (you can’t argue with her feelings), and do not falter in your loving, accepting, positive attitude. If you can’t be smooth, solid, and cheerfully loving in the face of her darkest side, how can she possibly believe you can be her (or her children’s) guardian and protector. The man who will intimidate her into submitting to her feelings of attraction is the man who is smooth and solid even when her emotions go to hell, when the world around us goes to hell. If she can be free with her worst feelings and you can manage her, she can be free with you completely sexually as well. And then you turn up the heat!

For me A314 was a success in many ways due to self-effects. The attitude you will project when wearing it. Secondary to that is the respect and deference that people will lend you.

IH I have not tried, but deep communication is known to give that fallout that is needed in a LTR.

IO did give me positive results in terms of communication, mostly in sheer volume rather than depth per se.

My very recent test with P75 was useful in terms of the intimidation factor. There is some degree of backwards rationalizing here - she is not intimidated when she’s “too tired” out of deep resentment. I’m still figuring this one out, but I’d still put it in the seduction category with enone (Ammo, TUTH). P83 is also in this category, although it’s more of a dis-inhibitor which can open the floodgates of anger or lust.

P74 does have a nice comfort angle and some bonding, I enjoyed using it even at low-dose.

Attraction
Taa, P102, P91

Comfort
P74, P95, Androsterone (ie. rone, in instant gentleman, A314).

P96, P97 seem to promote conversation and bonding.

Keep in mind the Putatives are not reliable the way the consumer line is, and their availability is more erratic.

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I think everyone is right. To be honest this whole situation has been taking its toll on me, obviously. I honestly do feel things will work out, and for the most part things still fine at home. It seems like she happy for a few weeks, then does something otherwise and I catch it (or so I think), that being said I am sure a lot has slipped by as well.

in a nutshell I think I need to do this

  1. Resolve both our issues - (I hope she can fix hers)
  2. Rebuild attraction and comfort
  3. Build trust (this is huge for me)
  4. Communication

Perhaps I will start a thread for this and log my results with whatever pheros I buy.

at this point I will buy shine for sure, perhaps double strength? TUTH just seems like a good one to have on hand at some point, and what would give comfort? A314? IG?

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In terms of proven track record, low risk and friendly, non-threatening vibe, I have no problem with IG, Shine and AMMO. Read the store text for the 30 mL sizes. All convey an imagine of a nice, quality guy, That’s not what TUTH does, and not really what A314 does. 314 is quite commanding and dominant. Heat is aggressively sexual. I don’t know any better way to put it. Ask yourself if you want to convey the presence of the first three or the last two. Then, your choices are crystal clear. Heat and -eNone generally doesn’t send a “can we do it message,” it’s sends a “we’re going to” message. Sometimes poorly received by those unwilling. Heat is a closing tool for LMR. AMMO is an attraction tool. The equally balanced None and Rone does it. Heat hasn’t any Rone, but a drop or two A314 will buffer it sometimes. I really just don’t suggest Heat for any troubled relationship. It’s too sexually aggressive. Some women don’t like the smell. AMMO has a strong fragrance that covers the urinous quality of e None.

Ideal when you want to position yourself as dependable. A male provider. Use the Instant Gentleman effect when you want to project masculine warmth. A sense of safety and comfort. The needs of a married woman are not those of a single barfly.

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ok order places. I got shine, ammo, IG, amd TUTH. I hear what you said about TUTH, and I get it loud and clear. I wont use it for a long time, but its something I want for the future so I fiured i might as well get it.

I think I will just rock the shine + ammo combo for the first while.

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Hello, Jon! Welcome!

I totally agree with monesmadedoit. Happiness, warmth, and safety before sex. IS is a great choice, and IG and ammo are good to pair with it. I have a lot of experience using IH, and I must say that I highly recommend it in your situation. I don’t find it to be a “crack open the floodgates of the shit I’ve been hiding from you”, but rather more of “I trust you and feel safe with you”. It’s a good bonding product, and paired with IS you would have happy bonding. So that’s my recommendation: IS + IH + IG or ammo.