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Hi there. Please call me Jazzy (or JazzyC). For someone reason it’s become my internet alias (even if I have no idea why I came up with it). I would say go into Google and everything from JazzyC would be me, but that would be a slight lie. More than once I’ve had someone beat me to it (especially in the gaming community) even if I’ve never seen them post/play.

Actually, having just Googled myself for the first time in years, I’d say I don’t even come close to being the majority of those profiles/posts (most seem to be from women!) Which, probably says far more about me than it should.

Anyway…
I’ve recently turned 25, having been male all my life and lived in Norwich all my life (bar the time I moved up North for University).
My reasons for coming here are mixed. While not an even split, it is part social curiosity, part scientific curiosity and part help with my love life.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not expecting a love potion in a bottle, but something that might lead to some answers (and a boost in confidence with women).

I will say now I have a tendency to ramble and spill everything when it comes to these. But, I could argue it would allow you guys to give some (hopefully) solid advice on what would work well. So, without further ado…

Since high school, or rather my experience with the opposite sex, I’ve not been a guy to like half the class. Don’t get me wrong, I’ve found alot of women attractive, but not many I would want to ask out and be with. To date, I’ve wanted to ask out (and to my credit, actually did even if it took a while) 4 women. None, I should point out ever said yes (for varying reasons both petty and good).
The last girl is part of the reason I am here.
I’ve known this girl for several years, we met through work and have become close friends. A couple of years ago she opened up to me she was having doubts about getting married (reasons I shan’t go into). Before that point we were just work friends, but after that she started giving hugs and asking to go for a drink. When going for that drink I decided to tell her I liked her.
Long-story short, we never got together and she is now happily married to her guy. We now work more closely than ever (both running the same section).
Now, before I go any further, I want to say I don’t want to jeopardise what she has. It’s going to be hard to believe that given what I’m going to say next, but it is the truth.
Over the past few months I have become increasingly confused about what she wants from me as a friend. One minute she is very professional, ignoring everything else I say or do. The next it is very flirty and touchy feely. Sometimes she wants to meet up outside of work, and the next she is busy and can’t.
My reason for using pheromones (beyond curiosity) is two-fold. Firstly, I’m looking to (when we do go out as friends) to see what she is wanting, and just how far she would go.
Secondly, I’m looking for something to help meet new women when out in bars with friends.

Previous years would see me say I lack confidence. But, the few recent experiences I have had has given me that. However, I still lack initiative, and expect them to come to me.

Well, that’s me. And I’ve potentially come off as someone who hasn’t got a clue what he is doing when it comes to women, or some sort of evil genius out to mess with women’s heads. Truth is, I’m just looking for peace of mind over the past/current friendship and I guess a new start/boost to the new me.

Please feel free to ask me anything, tell me off, support, advice. Speak to you all soon.

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Hello Jazzy,

I dont see much point in spending your time to figure out what a married woman wants.. especially since she went ahead and got married with another dude after you confessed your feelings for her ??? Am I getting it correct or did I miss something? If this is the situation, if it were me… I’d cut my losses then and there and move on…
anyway that’s just my opinion..

for general attraction (from opposite sex) I would suggest AMMO. works beautifully and gives steady results.. u can pair it with shine for regular use and instant honesty for those special dates where you would like to bond with a woman…

Try tuth with those women with whom you have an established relation/comfort. tuth is very sexual so use it according to situation. in the wrong situation it may not work/give you opposite reaction…

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Hey Jazzy! Welcome to the forum.

First of all, I would suggest Ammunition. This is a really well balanced product containing sexual, social, and status boosting aspects. Definitely a good place to start your pheromone collection.

Instant Shine is another great product. It’s the “feel good” pheromone that makes those around you and even yourself feel…well, good. The results can be subtle sometimes but it helps in so many situations.

Instant Honesty is the final product I will recommend. The “trust” pheromone, it helps with bonding and comfort. It will make people more likely to confide in you. This can help in the situation you’re asking about (I won’t comment on whether this is a good idea or not).

Good luck!

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Thanks for the replies so far.

Is what I am looking for a good idea? Probably not (closer to definitely perhaps). But is what I’m looking for a requirement for me? Yes.

Alot of my courage, self esteem and happiness is for some reason locked into how she feels about me. The mixed signals are confusing me. If it wasn’t for the fact I see her at work 5 times a week, and we work closely, I would probably have dealt with it.

I trust myself and I trust her not to do anything stupid, I realise you have nothing to base that trust on, so I understand your responses. There is tension in the air, and I need to get to the bottom of it before I can move on, and our friendship can continue. The Instant Honesty that has been linked to sounds ideal, and I assume it can be combined with Shine for added effect?

Thanks everyone.

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I’m definitely not judging you, dude. Do what makes you happy. If you’re making a mistake, you’ll learn that for yourself before long and it will teach you more in the end than anything we could tell you. You know the situation and your intentions better than us.

To answer your question, yes, Instant Honesty and Instant Shine should work well together. Just make sure you try each on it’s own so you see how they work for you before mixing.

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Don’t worry, I wasn’t saying you were judging me. One thing I’ve learnt over the past two years is that we all deal with things differently, and all feel it is right in the moment.

I figure I’ll resolve this issue in one of two ways. I’ll either discover there is something she hasn’t been telling me (ideally, that on some level she has similar feelings to me). Therefore, we’ll both be able to talk in depth about the situation and be better off for it, knowing we’re never going to stop being friends (or go further).
Or I discover she’s been trying to push me away, in which case we can part and not spend time going hot and then cold.

At least, that’s how it works in my head. I certainly have a few products to buy. This could be a “how long is a piece of string?” question, but how long (or how many sprays) do these products have?
If I need to be more specific, looking at AMMO, Tuth, Instant Honesty, Shine and maybe IG

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neither am I judging you jazzy :slight_smile: just stating it so that the record is set straight.. wanting to dissuade you is one thing… judging is another :smiley:

anyways if you are determined.. I would suggest A314+AMMO+IH.. go heavy on IH (4 sprays )while sticking to may be 2 drops of A314… and AMMO at your sweet spot level and yeah no harm in throwing in some Instant Shine too…

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Ha, that is so very true. I’ve had a similar dialogue going for quite some time from the inside. While I would consider myself good at giving advice, I find myself struggling to take it on board.

I just have to go for it, and see what happens.

I’ve got myself a Shopping Cart ready to go. But, I won’t lie, just hoping I get a Gift Certificate to take the sting out a little! I’ve gone for the spray A314 so I can test out all these pieces in my cart before taking the dive and getting larger quantities.

Hopefully once ordered the UK customs won’t decide to keep hold of it for too long, as I have a friends Stag party next Saturday. While not a big do, it would certainly see us in a few bars in the city, and an ideal place to start out.

Thanks everyone who has replied so far, you have been a great help.

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Soo, I got over excited and just had to go and buy some stuff. My first purchase and I grabbed
Ammo
TUTH
Instant Honesty
Instant Shine
Alpha A314 Spray

Can’t wait to try these out! I already have a notebook ready to write things down.

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Welcome to pherotalk Jazzy,

I agree with aghor in his first statement and want to add that she may be wrestling with what she should do and what she wants to do

Just like with men if a woman allows a man to have her going back and forth with her , one minute he is interested she sticks around and the next he is not she still sticks around then all respect is lost and at the end all you are going to be is used by that person

I am not sure what you want out of this but I doubt it can lead to anything meaningful

Your gc was issued!

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We have had a couple of talks over the years about what she wants and what I want. I think I know her quite well, to know she isn’t someone to lead someone on. However, recent actions have placed that in doubt and I need to deal with it once and for all.
I believe there to be underlying issues she is choosing not to share (whatever they may be) and I’m hoping to get her to open up so we can deal with it.
The result is there is something else going on elsewhere, or I am indeed being led on (or something similar). Either result allows me a response, rather than the current humming and harring coming from not knowing.

But, she is but a small reason for being here, even if she is 80% of my issues. Lol.