Hello! Looking for Pheromones and Scents that Would Work for Me? F/43/NYC

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Hi, I’m Light of the Moon (or LoM, for short). I’m 43 years old and I live in NYC. I’m female and I’m not sure whether to post this in the gift certificate thread or the journal thread. I’m not sure if I want this to become a journal, lol. Just want some answers. I bought ISB (first time pheromone user) and received it last Thursday. I’m a straight woman and men like me but it’s hard for me to get that sexy vibe to them until after a man kisses me. Seriously, it’s hard for me to flirt in real life. Online it’s easy, we both know we want to date someone. RL is harder.

So two men. One is my crush, if a 43-year-old woman can still have a crush.:wink: This guy and I have a professional relationship co-facilitating a meetup. Kind of. Anyway, we are working toward a goal and both enjoy mentoring/helping youth. We plan activities. I think there is a spark there and I’ve felt it before on my own (sans scent) but not with ISB.

Day 1: I got ISB right on time for seminar/lecture we both were going to Thursday night. He was late but I saved a seat for him and he sat next to me. I could tell he was enjoying the talk but he leg kept bobbing like he had somewhere to be. He does have ADD but I’ve never seen him that restless. We all had dinner after and he was the first to go. (That’s not unusual.) Weird.

I didn’t feel anything different wearing ISB. I felt like myself. I don’t love the scent. I don’t hate it. It’s fine on cotton (it’s still winter here) but it lingers unpleasantly in wool. I didn’t feel sexy, though. I sprayed in on both wrists. It’s a big spray, no way to minimize it. I bought the sample size and intended to give it a week trial but gosh it makes such a big spray that it wouldn’t last a week if I used it every day. I use it on my wrists and neck. Neck because I’m a hugger.

Day 2: Another meetup. No love interest there, just men. Book club. I used three sprays this time which was almost overwhelming neroli-wise for me. Lots of men there though I wasn’t sitting next to a man. Again, nothing. I made a note to hug men goodbye, though. I sprayed before the meeting and another spray during the meeting in the bathroom.

I’m not sure if this will work for me. I don’t want to wear it at work. I work with all married men. So, no. I’m not Angelina Jolie or Marilyn Monroe. More like a cross between Viola Davis and Tootie from Facts of Life. I’m right in the middle. Didn’t get IS because I have my own glow and shine. When I turn that up, I don’t need pheromones. So why don’t I do that? Eh. I can be a bit too shiny and attract the wrong men. And it’s shine, not sex. I need the sexy. :slight_smile:

Questions: Should I try ISA? And is there another scent for these things? I generally like fresh, citrusy scents like lime and grapefruit. This musky neroli thing I could tolerate if it worked but as it is, I just want to wash my clothes and smell like Downy again, lol!

P.S. I’m going out platonically with my ex-boyfriend on Friday. I’m going to try one more time. This is a man I know was attracted to me once so it’s a known playing field. I don’t want to date him, but he’s safe to practice on. He really wanted me to be like Angelina Jolie when we dated, but that’s just not all of who I want to be all the time. If I can’t get this man to at least see me sexually for one night, then I think I’ll conclude this pheromone isn’t working for me.

P.P.S. I’m posting in the gift certificate thread. If that’s the wrong place, please let me know.

Dance by the Light of the Moon
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Hi Lightofthemoon,

Glad to see you already ordered products and are proceeding with testing.

To answer your question IS/A is much more in-your-face sexiness than B version. The way you describe your personnality, it might not be suitable. See it as a Marilyn Monroe wearing fire truck red lipstick, yes. Some men will fall for that, but you have to act and dress accordingly. Plus, it will make some women hate you (jealous you get lots of looks). Also, the possibility of having random men looking at you in an unwanted way is stronger than with B version.

You can have most products customized in the store with the scent of your choice. It comes with a fee as those are made to order and not off the shelf, but it’s possible.

If you want to establish deep connection with a man, you might be interested in IHonesty. It’s a great product fot he trsut and bonding thing. When paired with the IS/B it also steers things away from the friendzone.

Did you have a gift certificate yet? If not, you are entitled to get one. Maybe tell us more about yourself. Do you have other goals than romance with pheromones? Also, are you introvert / extrovert? There might be other products we can recommend to you.

Keep trying with ISexiness B :slight_smile:.

Hope to hear from you.

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Hi Conjurator,

Thanks for your response! I may need more in your face sexiness, though it’s interesting what you say about clothes and dress. I think that because I didn’t like the smell of ISB that kind of undercut my confidence with it. It was so overwhelming breathing it and I wasn’t comfortable with the smell. But yes, I hear you about unwanted attention from men. I get enough of that on the subway every day with no scents at all. :wink:

I don’t have a gift certificate yet. But first things first.I don’t even know what else I’d get, you know? I considered IH, but I didn’t want people to be too honest. It’s so interesting, I want a response and could probably get one but I also have to be ready for what responses I get.

My personality? I’m very energetic and upbeat most of the time. Very direct and cynical at times, but in an amusing way. People generally like me and I make friends with men and women easily. I don’t have anything in the way of shyness at all.

That’s all great, but I find that men friendzone me pretty readily. Which is fine most of the time, except for men I’m romantically interested in. I admit I’m curious what ISA would do around men I know (I only wear these scents indoors). But the scent would have to be different, I suppose.

I’m a bit disappointed because I have ISB in my possession but have to really steel myself to breathe it in. I will try it again, but would be encouraged if I felt that it was changing something by wearing it, either self-effects or the guy.

Hmm.

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Forget not that you can try and use your favorite perfume as cover scent. Just apply it to a different spot than the mone and test at home first for scent compatibility or ask a person of trust if you smell ‘ok’

IH is not a truth serum, altough it can help some people spill the beans. It act more on the authenticity level in my book and makes people more outspoken. People will not act as being somebody they are not, so it makes it easier to connect. Keep yourself from the self effect by spraying it to wrists or hands. You should try :slight_smile:.

Regaridng your personnality, you look like an outgoing and interesting / likeable person, so I don’t think you need a boost on the pure social level.

Maybe get a to-go of Isexiness A and run tests with men you already know would be an option.

Also, maybe try IS/B in the neck. You definitely want self effects too :slight_smile:.

A forum moderator will send the gift certificate to you by email. It usually takes a day or two. Good luck :slight_smile:.

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Thanks so much. :slight_smile: I can only add fragrance to the full-sized product, right? I’m nervous about doing this because I already have one product I’m hesitant to use. That grapefruit scent sure is tempting, though. I really want to give these products a chance.

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Yes, it seems that fragrance customization is possible only with full-sized products which is normal because they are made to order, it’s less expensive this way for everybody.

Vanilla is another popular AD lady fragrance. I remember reading good things about cookies scent and chocolatini too.

In the “mixing supplies” section, you can order a 30-ml bottle without pheromones with the grapefruit fragrance in the diluent of your choice. It could be a cheaper way to just ‘test out’ a fragrance. I have never ordered those though, so the help I can provide is limited. People at support@androtics.com can answer your questions if you want something that will ressemble a real grapefruit mones bottle you’d get from AD, I think you’d need perfumer’s alcohol and light fragrance. Better check with support to make sure though. You can also have a read at some of the ladies journal, many have tried alternate fragrance with their mones and they probably posted comments on those. Hesitate not to contact the most active of them by Private message, the most active members are usually at the top of the thread list.

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Hello & Welcome, LoM!

You have to do a proper testing to find out your sweet spot. It takes time but it’s too important to skip.

Your body needs time to adjust/adapt to the new pheros.

I had a similar experience on the beginning (nothing noticeable) and here is one of the most valuable advices I got about start using new products/pheros:

"I suggest you test the mones solo for at least a week each straight. IShine for week 1(1 spray on day 1, 2 sprays next, 3 next and so on), IO on the next week and so on. The objective is for you to get the number of sprays that gives off the best effects for you and for others(this is the sweetspot). Another reason for trying them solo for a week is to avoid confusing both your body and the people you mingle with. One possible reason is probably because of the mones , your body is now emitting a “changed” vibe, and the people around you is probably still processing this new vibe they now perceive. These are the people who have known you for years and a sudden new vibe after several mones use may have thrown them off course, specially if you keep on changing mones per day. So keeping them under your mones cloud for at least every time they are with you, may help them “familiarize” with the “new you”. "
(By DeeA)

So, be patient and don’t give up… :wink:

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Thanks, Brasileira. I’m happy to give the 'mones more time. Only thing is the men I want them to work on, I don’t see them very often. So if I only see them once or twice a month, this is going to take a while!

I’m not even worried about the effects at the moment. I tried a bit yesterday alone in my apartment and I definitely don’t like the smell and can only tolerate a minuscule amount myself. I can’t imagine more than two sprays of the stuff.

I’m going to look into the scent mixing. (I don’t think my regular light and all-natural scents could really cover even a tiny amount of this stuff. I took a bath last night and still a teeny bit lingered on my wrist. Wow.) I’m worried about buying products I can’t return, but if I don’t like the smell, that dislike will mostly be the vibe I’ll be giving off.

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Going to try one of the putatives. Cheaper and I can add a scent because neroli + me = no bueno. Waiting for the GC. Hope it comes soon so it could possibly (but not likely) arrive on Friday. Going for the coconut vanilla. :slight_smile:

Want to try a putative that’s like IH but don’t think there is one out there. I’ll let you guys know how it turns out!

I know I should stick with the Instants but right now I’m just looking for something that smells good to me because if I think I smell good, I’ll feel good. :slight_smile:

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Hello LotMoon!

Welcome to PheromoneTalk! :slight_smile:

I have a PM for you. Please check it out. Also, I wanted to suggest that you create a ticket about your ISB issues. You can write a ticket about this via support@androtics.com

Neroli is citrusy in smell. The musk you pick up is the natural smell of the pheromone. It seems that you have a very sensitive nose. Indeed an attempt to have a different fragrance over pheromones is a good step. And you need to stick with the instants first. :slight_smile:

Happy Pheroing! :slight_smile:

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Hi Dee,

I responded to your PM. It’s not so easy to get a GC here. It was difficult to register too. I kept trying and it kept saying my username or e-mail was listed as spam somewhere. I was on the verge of creating a new e-mail address just for this (which is a bit much) when randomly it worked on Sunday. And yes, I had opened a ticket which I shared with you in PM, but after a few days no one responded anymore so I just figured it out on my own. Part of the problem is I prefer to keep the name and e-mail I ordered with separate from this account. Is that unusual?

Yes, I have a sensitive nose which is why I have in the last few years stuck with natural, organic scents. I don’t smell any citrus in the neroli at all. Maybe there is a light cover of another scent but after a few hours, in my clothes and on my skin is that musk. Will a grapefruit or coconut scent even cover that? I don’t know. I can only say I’m willing to try, but I am getting discouraged by both my sensitive nose and this process. :-/

LoM

PS I just read your last line as I’m heading out the door for work. Does that mean I can’t order one of the putatives? I only wanted to because it’s only $30.00 and I could hopefully cover the musk with coconut. I’m not feeling ready to pay $100 for the Instants. The GC would only cover the added scent. Maybe it’s just me (and my nose :-)) but this is all a lot (not just talking money but the process) for someone who just wanted to try pheromones out.

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Nope. You can totally order putatives of your choice. Mine was just an advice fit for newbies like you. Putatives are experimental, single molecules while instants are well… instants. Pre-mixed for specific results.

I responded also to your PM after verifying your identity, and I dished out the GC as soon as the PM was sent.

About this process… well, we would love to have a speedy thing for everything, but sadly, some people ahead of you have done terrible things in trying to game us and thus we started putting up this thing we call security. And it’s just unfortunate that of all the newly registered members on that week, you alone have experienced that. But you’re case is not new. From time to time, a newbie or two have experienced the same thing.

But hey, you’re in, the GC is in, and you are willing to experiment. For me, that is a good prospect. :slight_smile:

Happy Pheroing! :slight_smile:

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Thanks, Dee! I sure am willing to try new things. :slight_smile: I haven’t received the GC yet, but you say, it hasn’t been my luck this week unfortunately. You have my e-mail address so I’ll check it out.

And yay, coconut!

:slight_smile:

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Welcome LOM,

I think a lot of the Neroli scents will go very well and this is the standard. If you custom order in any of the scents I would stay with the 6% and not get the 20% as it can be overbearing.

I haven’t tried the Vanilla. The Grape is ok and diffuses well and I have a little more of a harder time with a cover scent with this one. The choclatini scent I like but again using a cover scent can clash with it. If you really want to use a cover I would try with Neroli and see how it goes with this one first.

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Dunno if this is a place to give feedback on formulas? But I do see the ‘hi’ threads and often wonder what happens to other newbies when they use their GCs. I’ll be brief. If this is the wrong place, please let me know.

No p78 yet. Soon. So I bought a scent to cover the musk of Instant Sexiness B. And I somehow avoided clothes where it lingers. I spray it on my shoes and ankles. then used the tiny residue on the spayer on wrists. Then covered it with L’Occutaine’s Verveine which I bought yesterday. It has a lime/verbena scent that’s light.

I used the spray 3 times with my ex. I noticed self effects. Makes me think about sex. Whoa. Out of nowhere, but that’s not the first time that’s happened. But that’s only immediately after spraying. What did happen with us? We had these two long heart-to-hearts not about us, but about events in our lives we hadn’t shared. It was like it was finally safe to share stuff. And I just listened. It was a bonding moment.

No romantic stuff. Even though he did walk me to my apartment. He’s a shy type so . . . so. But he was protective. Or did I just let him be protective because I expected it because of the scent? I’ll never know. It was a nice night. I’m lucky to have him as a friend.

There was a trace of something else there. But because we are firmly friends I think that that’s all it will be and I’m cool with that.

Experimenting with crush guy tomorrow. :slight_smile:

P.S. I sprayed it at work and a lot of women started talking to me. It reminded me of what Instant Honesty is supposed to do? But I will also say I firmly put myself in listening mode too. So part of it is being more . . . receptive to people too. I’m not so good at that. That’s not the 'mone that’s just a decision I made to be a better friend to people.

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Hi JustinTime!

Thanks for the welcome. :slight_smile: I ordered one of the putatives that are cheaper and I could scent for free. I can’t deal with the neroli alone. I did tonight because it’s all I had, but I covered it with another citrus scent. (Even that one was heavy to me but didn’t linger much.) Did they clash? Dunno because I only sprayed my feet. :smiley: I couldn’t smell much. I did put a little on my wrists while I talked. So I’m using small amounts of the neroli.

I don’t remember what percentage of grapefruit I ordered with the putative. Light, I think, in case I don’t like that as well. So I layer the ISB with another perfume altogether or I’m going to use the putative with grapefruit. Since I have ISB and will be around men this weekend I have to use it.

I will say using these artificial scents is sensitizing me to all scents which is not good in the big city. So I can’t use them every day.

May not be for me as my tolerance to scents at all may be low. Just food for thought, I guess.

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Newbie,s after getting their GC’s, either move on enjoying their pheromones in private, or started writing a journal to record their progress. You can create a journal here, if you wish to have one. You can also read the journals of the amazing ladies of this forums. :slight_smile:

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Don’t know if reporting results is allowed here but I just wanted to report that the ISB scent did calm down once my small size was down to 1/4 left. I also have p78 which again smells strong. Neither smell like orange or grapefruit, though. ISB now just smells vaguely sweet and I cover/mix it with Chanel No. 5.

Got hits. Took a while so newbies hang in there! The key is that pheromones enhance what’s already there. Definite hit tonight. First date that ended with kissing. Yum. :slight_smile: He said, “I knew I’d like you, but I didn’t know I’d like you this much.” And damn he smelled good and that was just him.

On the heels of that cloud nine, date from Friday called asked for second date. And there was even an e-mail from another guy from last week. We aren’t dating but he’s still in contact. Not sure if anything is there, but I will say I used ISB with all of them.

So. We shall see. I do think these things may have happened without the pheromones, but who knows? I certainly know that just deciding to wear them changes me a bit so that’s a factor too.

Thanks, everyone! Especially Dee. :slight_smile:

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Hi Light of the moon,

Thanks for the reporting. It was nice reading you, I hope we’ll see more.

May I suggest you create a thread in the women’s journal section? That would be a nice place to post your reports and progress. That will get maximum attention of other users in that section.

Keep up the good work.