Dance by the Light of the Moon

Hi Everyone,

I didn’t really want to start a journal. Why? Because that means you have to keep on experimenting. I just wanted to use the pheromone, report on it, and be done. Also, I wanted to post positive reports, you know end on a positive note.

Most of my backstory is here in my first post. Please feel free to read it.

I don’t know if pheromones work for me honestly. There isn’t really a way to tell if it’s you or the pheromones. I know there are some things working against me. The scent was really strong at first. So I didn’t use it much. It was like I could feel the chemicals on my throat when I inhaled. I purchased two products. Instant Sexiness B and P78 about a month ago. The scent of ISB wore off when I was down to about 1/4 of my sample size. Then it was almost pleasant but it was so light I’m not sure if it worked much as when it was stronger. I only got up to about three sprays of it, even after the scent went down. Three sprays of that and a spray of the cover scent is A LOT of scent for me.

Oh, and I cover everything with Chanel No. 5 now. It pairs nicely with the calmed-down ISB. Chanel No. 5 alone makes me feel sexy. :wink: I’m about to just buy a bottle of that!

ISB

Main effects: I would spray this on myself at the office at about 3:30pm when I was getting ready to go out on dates on Friday evenings. I would spray it in a conference room because I needed to close the door against the smell.

Effects: Everyone in the office got so friendly and chatty with one another. Now, this could be just end of the week stuff. We are a chatty office. But I noticed it two times in a row. Hasn’t happened like that in weeks since and we’ve had plenty of Fridays.

P78

Well. It smells pretty strong. Just like ISB did in the beginning. I don’t know what people are saying about neroli and the scents AD puts in. I paid extra for grapefruit for P78. I smelled the teeniest hint of grapefruit when I sprayed it the first time. Then nothing but that really nasty pheromone scent afterward. I’m used to the scent now and I use it because I paid for it but I can only take one spray. I don’t use it much. I have never smelled anything in these bottles that smelled like an orange you eat, never.

What also works against me is I only use this stuff on single dates. I wonder if they would work more on someone you saw on a regular basis. I remember reading here people saying people have to get used to your new signature. But if you only meet a person once this is the signature they get to know you as.

I don’t get much self-effects. Occasionally, ISB can help me feel slightly horny but I have a pretty good drive so that can happen on its own. :slight_smile:

I had went on this date a few weeks ago and there was chemistry galore. I thought it was the 'mones! Well, some time has passed. There hasn’t been a second date. And I have to admit that we were feeling plenty attracted to each other over the phone before we even met. So . . . I dunno.

I’m almost out of ISB. My gut tells me I should have gone with ISA even though it’s contrary to my personality. I have nothing to really report about P78. I don’t use it much.

Maybe writing this will help someone out there. If so, please create an account and comment. I would really appreciate hearing about other new members experiences.

LoM

Wow. No responses at all. Oh well. I’m going to keep on reporting for myself, I guess. I also realized that new people and people logged in can’t read this. So weird.

So the guy I had chemistry with didn’t work out. I’m not sure why. I think he has a lot of walls up and just became ever so controlling. He never took me on a second date because I wouldn’t sleep with him that soon. His way of managing our attraction was simply not to see me. He even called last night even though I’m mentally done with him. His excuse was he thought I’d called him. I didn’t call him or call him back. Too many games.

I went on another first date last night, perhaps my last for a while whether it works out or not. He took me took an off-Broadway play and out for a meal. Then we talked for a long time in the park. It was nice out. He’s very nice and sweet.

I did wear the last of Instant Sexiness B and P78. I use the words ‘wear’ loosely. I put the tiniest bit on since I’m also covering with Chanel No. 5. What I do on these long dates is I put on a little at home. Then I put on more when I go to the bathroom at a restaurant. If he goes to the rest room, I spray a little under the table so he can smell it when he gets back. I try to smell very little of it.

This is a nice man and he was very touchy with me after I did this. On the way to the train he seemed very happy. When I say touchy I mean he did that thing where he lightly touch the small of my back when we crossed the street. I love that. :slight_smile: It was very nice and non-aggressive. Then as we took the escalator, he started to nuzzle me by the ear which was ticklish and pleasant. Very touchy but very light. I’m attributing this to the P78. And that we had this very nice bonding conversation beforehand. I’m glad he was happy. He probably wanted to kiss me but I just gave him a hug. I had kissed him on the cheek earlier when he gave me a present. A t-shirt about something I’m into.

I didn’t kiss him because, well, I wonder if kissing the other guy sent things in the wrong direction. Deep down I know that wasn’t it, that he has issues, but I’ve decided that prudence is the better half of valor. Or discretion. However that quote goes.

So that was interesting. The question is, am I attracted to this guy? I think I was on a lower level. I’m deliberately holding back a bit. With the other guys things were a 10 and I could barely breathe around him. This guy is like a 5 - 7 but he’s just open and nice and easy to talk to. But I’m a bit cautious after the other guy.

Weird they both called last night within minutes of one another. It’s nice to be wanted. I’m not sure if I will use the pheromones next date. It did what I wanted. Men do see me sexually or sensually or whatever. But I don’t want that to cloud the bonding. I wish I knew why it was hard for me to do both at the same time. But it is.

Hi LOM,
Maybe try some of the socials on the first dates and keep the ISB in your purse for a spray later if you’re feeling it? Just a suggestion. Re the kiss…dont sweat it. A kiss is just a kiss, unless it is a KISS.. :slight_smile:

Thanks for responding! I guess I wanted to make sure that men were attracted to me or there wouldn’t be a second date, you know? I’m friend-zoned very quickly. The thing about the men I meet in RL is that they firmly place me in the friendzone and I never get out unless I hit them with a metaphorical brick of attraction. :roll_eyes: Seriously. It’s why I find posts here from men so amusing. If a person is socialized not to show attraction to you, you could bathe in pheromones and they won’t overcome that training. Women are socialized that way so I let the pheromones do the work for me.

Saturday was interesting. He definitely changed directly after a spray. But we had a fairly bonding conversation too. I think I have to stick with that. My last bf was always more turned on after conversations like that.

I’m out of ISB, just about one spray left. I’m going to get some Shine and Honesty. Let the bonding begin!

Well you could do both socials and ISB if you order more. The socials would get him talking, and the ISB would get the attraction component you are looking for. Sorry, maybe Im not hip, but what is RL?

Also, curious as to why men put you in the friendzone so quickly?

Im assuming with your comment about mens posts about them being socialized to not show attraction to you, you are referring to PUA approaches? Not all guys subscribe to that strategy. They just may be shy or awkward. Socials will help you open them up as well as the other way around. Give you the confidence to do it.

Bond away!!

Also, curious as to why men put you in the friendzone so quickly?

I have never had a problem making friends and shining and having people like me. From age 3 to age 43. So I ignored the socials. I would only need them on days I wasn’t feeling my natural shine. I also took a workshop on listening and that really helped. Gosh, so many men don’t have anyone to listen to them.

But to answer your question. One, I think men make that decision really quickly. I didn’t always dress to my advantage and I’m certainly not conventionally pretty. So I didn’t get a lot of feedback that way. Two honestly, I didn’t meet many men I was attracted to. I find it difficult to this day to flirt with someone just because. It usually works with someone I know and can tease and feel safe with.

Then came online dating. (As opposed to real life dating (RL)). That’s a whole other kettle of fish. Things are so fast. You have one single date or a single phone call to intrigue a guy and that’s it. Which brings me to three, attraction with men seems to be there or not. With a woman, she could not be attracted at first and that could grow over time. Not so much with men, in my experience.

So I became a friend. It’s frustrating. So I thought wearing something that helped a guy feel overwhelmed by his attraction to me :smiley: would break the ice. I only used it when going on dates or when I sensed some mutual attraction was there or had been there. I kind of know now. But with those first two guys, nothing. I can’t even sense anything with them anymore.

These last two first dates, we really connected well over the phone and on the date. Lots of talking and light touching. The touching thing is new, I have to say. But I like it. :slight_smile:

I do tend to date really shy men. My type, I suppose. But I can’t make the first move and so I thought wearing this stuff would help them be bolder. But that’s not quite how it’s working . . .

I wish shy men could give a girl a clue what to do. 'Cause she isn’t going to make the first move, nor wait for too long . . .

Interesting. My advice if you are into shy guys (not sure that you are, just may be the guys you “pull”) is to look at this completely differently. Wear something that helps you make the first move, and help him be more receptive..hence the socials. One of the first reasons I started using pheros , and continue to to this day, is to give me confidence to break the ice with women. (Former shy guy here!) Ive always been able to hold a conversation and talk to women even before pheros, but its that getting started thing. So, maybe do something to get him over the hump. you may be letting some great guys slip through the cracks.

Also, I think it is “ok” to talk to women that I dont know, and not consider it flirting. I do it all the time now. Just being friendly…say hi to women I pass in parking lots…hold doors for them..say good morning when I get on the elevator…then I walk away and go on with life. Then when I do see a woman I want to flirt with, I just bump it up a notch. The pheros help me be ready to respond when the circumstances arrive.

You say you are naturally a social person, so a little socials here and there will help you carry that to the next level. After a while it becomes part of your repertoire. I dont even think about it anymore.

Example, last week I was meeting a friend at a busy bar for happy hour. I noticed a very attractive blonde, business dress, come in and take the only table in the bar that was open which was right in the corner on the way to the restrooms. She was alone and looked like she was waiting for someone. Eventually nature called, and I needed to go to the bathroom so I headed that way. As I passed she looked up and smiled, and I stopped briefly, and said “So they stuck you back here in the corner eh?” she laughed and said “yeah”. I leaned over a bit and said in a low voice “nobody puts baby in the corner..” she laughed and I continued on to the bathroom. Five years ago I never would have done that. I was wearing A314, P83, and Instant shine. Brimming with confidence.

The point is I don’t want to make the first move. That’s why I’m spending all this money on pheromones. I could do it, but it has never worked out successfully. If I set that tone in the beginning, I end up initiating everything through the entire relationship. Believe me, I’ve done it in the past. But at this point, if a guy needs me to do that, I don’t want him. Seriously. I don’t mind the shy guys, that’s fine. That’s probably a better match for me than a more assertive man. But even the shyest man has to show me he wants me in certain ways or my attraction will wane.

One example. The guy on Saturday hasn’t contacted me. I could contact him but it’s his move. He’s the guy. We had a great time. He has to contact me. I didn’t think he was that shy, actually. But days have passed. He is active on the dating site. I’ve found countless times in the past for me to contact someone at this early stage now, just sets the tone that I will in future.

Couldn’t I just wear something that makes him more assertive and I can be the receptive one? That’s what most females . . . are. I’m not sure what shy men want from me, really.

I’m glad the pheromones helped you deliver the Dirty Dancing line! :slight_smile: That’s great. Maybe I should be spraying those at these men, though I’m staying away from p83. :wink:

I really appreciate you sharing this information with me. It’s good to hear from a formerly shy man but never being a shy person myself, I don’t really get it, especially with a woman who has already shown that she likes the guy on a date.

Ahh I see..no, I get it. Its almost like a “weeding out” exercise for you. Yes? If you chase too much, you think you might seem desperate. Sorry, bad choice of words. Its just a way to measure what his real interest level is.

I dont use dating sites. I have in the past and they never seemed to work for me. I have a couple friends that use them and love them. So its whatever works for you. It is probably good to have a weeding out process when using those sites, especially in a place like NYC.

So back to suggestions…I would stick with the IS-A and /or IS-B, and steer them with a couple putatives. IS-A and B are both sexual, and will help you get the right kind of attention from guys on dates. (Non-friendzone) But maybe think about a spray of P83 along with it to help those shy guys act on those feelings they are having, (if they are having them). do not fear the P83! In the right amounts, it can just nudge things along. A good starting point with that one is 10-20mcg. If he is digging you, he will show it. More eye contact, more kino (touching), more conversation. If he isnt responding…well as the movie says, “Maybe he’s just not that into you..” Which is not necessarily bad. Its good to know so you dont waste any more time with him. Make sense?
Anyway, keep at it! You’re doing great.

Oh, one more thing…re what do shy guys want from you? Really? Think about it… :wink: lol

Is it weeding out? I dunno. When days pass and I hear nothing, I focus on other things and other people. There is a momentum to new interest. It’s like starting a fire. Left unattended, it will burn out. Is the fire weeding people out? It’s just the nature of things. I’m a woman who needs some . . . tending. Shy people are having their own internal thing going on but I’m ripening on the vine and won’t be there forever.

I do weed men out from dating sites in other ways. But by the time we’ve been on a successful first date, he’s made it through much of that. Then it’s just him following up and making the next moves. I can’t do that for him. I have in the past and it doesn’t work. Some men will just coast on my effort when they aren’t really interested at all. One guy even told me the main reason he dated me because “I asked”. I haven’t asked again and it’s been better when things are driven by their interest.

I worry more about the P83’s effect on me, not them. If I’m wanting them to make a move, I would prefer to remain unaffected by pheromones and I thought I read that P83 worked particularly well on women. When I’m with a guy I like, I don’t need any extra pheromones, really. ;-)*

what do shy guys want from you? Really? Think about
it… :wink: lo*l

Ha! :smiley: I know what men want. I want to help in their goal, LOL! Thus, pheromones. But other than wearing them (and of course, smiling, being encouraging, saying yes to dates, and looking great), I don’t know how to help them more than that. They have to make the first move. (And keep making first moves.) After that, it’s all so simple. But shy guys have to get out of their heads and simply make the next step. Before your new-found confidence, what helped you make the first move?

Thanks for such a fun message. :slight_smile:

The guy called last night. I was in the middle of booking vacation and had to call him back. He seemed tired. When I told him I was going to spend Sunday with my mother for Mother’s Day he seemed to think we couldn’t do anything. I’m free tomorrow and Saturday. Hmm. He’s still interested, I guess but doesn’t feel any urgency. It’s weird when men do this. They will plan ahead and check in for a first date, but a second? I dunno. Then he said if we didn’t meet this week, then we could next week. Who says I’m available next week? 'Cause guess what: I’m not. I have a yoga retreat.

He’s just in work mode. Men think I have nothing better to do than wait around for them to come up for air, but that’s just not true.

I have my order open for two new pheromones. I’m still not sure about Instant Sexiness B. Maybe it’s hard to believe it didn’t work on two men I really wanted it to work on? I dunno. It’s hard to believe my ex has no sexual feelings left for me but it must be true. I tell you dating is rough on one’s ego!

It mostly made men really chatty. Which is different. Not what I expected. So I listened. Okaay. Not sure I want to buy it again, though. It wasn’t a pleasant purchasing experience.

I’m scared of IH because I’m not sure I’m ready for what people will say. I like a little instant dishonesty, lol. Or Instant Tact. :wink: I’m curious, but scared about it. I guess the only one I know I want for sure is Instant Shine. Double strength. It’s so cheap, why not?

IH or ISB? Hmmm . . .

Okay. IH and IS. I can’t believe I’m buying more things so people can talk with me. Who says I want more talk? :wink:

But the sexiness 'mone was weird. And it wasn’t sexy how I expected at all. I’m a little confused about ISB, to be honest. People recommend it all the time and after using it I’m not sure what to make of it at all. And I used the whole bottle.

Before I started using mones, it was kind of difficult for me. Friends would introduce me to women, or I would join in on a conversation they were already having. But more often than not, I would wait for the woman to make the first move, or at least wait until she was making it obvious she was interested. Kind of the opposite of what you are looking for in men. I just had a mental image of if you and I met at a bar back then circling around each other for an hour. You waiting for me to make the move, me waiting for you. LOL. Funny, but Im sure its probably happened to people before.

As I mentioned before, I have never really had much trouble talking with women, or making “the move” , or going in for a kiss or whatever, once I got over all the initial B.S. social stigma. I was (am) smooth as silk after I get by that. It flows naturally. The pheros help me blow through stage one, so I can get to stage two and really get to know her. Call it a crutch or whatever you want, but I just think of it as a social lubricant.

This forum is full of posts on how to “open” women. Thousands of posts really. It proves that I am not the only person that has struggled with this in the past. But I abhor the whole “playa” or pick up artist approach. Pick up lines? Give me a fucking break. So lame-O. “whats your sign?” Puke. We have a saying for that type approach in the sales world. Its called “Show up, throw up!”.

This may sound like denial, but its gotten to the point where I probably dont need them anymore (I can quit any time I want to, I just dont want to…:slight_smile: )but it still makes things go much smoother, and yes, makes her more receptive if there is interest there.

Re the P83 again, dont fear the P83. Its one of my faves. It mixes well with almost any other phero, and I think improves them. I wear it as much for myself as i do for other people. Think of it as an accessory to your ensemble. Accessorize!

Re ISA or ISB..I cant really offer anything as I dont wear either of them. Maybe some of the ladies here can chime in and help you out.

The only thing I can add is there have been quite a few mones I have used that it took me a while to figure out. SOmetimes it was I was wearing the wrong dosage. Others just didnt work for me for some reason. P75 is a good example for me. I wore it once and had a great effect. Like really good. I was wearing 40mcg of it but I was outside. So I kept wearing it at 40mcg and I was not getting good results. I seemed to be ghosting the age group of women I was going after (30-50), and I was pissing off guys left and right for no reason. Someone on the forum here advised me to drop the P75 down to 5mcg and add a spray of P83 at 20mcg and Voila! Im Mr. Popular with the ladies again and guys arent picking fights with me. So the moral here is you have to test things and keep track of what works.

Good luck with the new purchases!

I don’t have issues with the first stage. I can get them offline, I can get to a wonderful first date. All that BS, which you rightfully call it. :slight_smile: But those first four weeks after a first date are killer. Because it’s normal that neither of you really know if you like the other person that early. Like last Saturday’s guy didn’t ask me for a date this weekend. That’s a flag. :frowning: Even though he gave me gifts and everything! I don’t get it.

Wow, I haven’t thought about meeting men in real life for a while. I had tw real life people I was stuck on from about August to February. Each one I went on what I would call a ‘date’. I looked great. I wore the 'mones. Nothing happened. I got to one guy’s apartment and the other to my apartment. Nada. I just gave up on them and went back online. The men there know what to do, usually. This has always happened to me since I was a girl. I’m like silently screaming, “Why do you think we are here alone?!” But nothing.

I asked my ex about it after we dated, why he took so many weeks to kiss me. I told him, “You knew I was interested. We’d been on five dates.” (I mean wtf?) And he said, “Well, I didn’t really know what I thought I knew.” What? I gave up trying to figure it out and realized that’s something about and in him. This is why he’s an ex. He never really figured that out.

You are well ahead of the game, CP if you know what to do after five dates in. No woman goes on dates with a man that many times if she doesn’t like him. No way. Hell, three dates is usually indicative of interest.

I don’t get all the posts on how to ‘open’ women. If you’re with a woman who already likes you the door is open. If it’s with a woman who doesn’t like you, all the pheromones in the world won’t let her open that door. You could bathe in the stuff. But men know when women like them. I don’t do all that stuff they say in that guide. I don’t flip my hair. I’m Black with natural hair. It doesn’t flip, LOL. I don’t do that stuff from the movies. I answer the phone and return calls, I show up on time. I laugh and smile and make sure he has a good time. I let him touch me, holding hands, just little things. Men know. But then they will just linger with that and not keep things moving forwards. (I don’t mean bed-forward, but dating-forward which isn’t always the same thing. At least not for me.)

I don’t understand what ‘ghosting’ is but I think with my sensitive nose which can only tolerate three sprays at most, I don’t have to worry about it. I also think I produce a fair amount of pheromones myself (yep, at 43) so when I add these man-made ones it can be . . . overwhelming. Not in a bad way. That guy I dated two months ago, we had some crazy physical chemistry. Pheromones wouldn’t have made him ‘ghost,’ it just made it difficult to focus on anything else but sex and we both admitted that. I don’t blame the 'mones. That was just our body chemistry. Pity, he turned out to be a controlling ass. Such is life. :wink:

I think he and most men think if a woman is overwhelmed with desire and physical attraction she’ll just fall into bed. I can’t speak for other women but with me, no. No, no, and no. In fact, I’m the opposite. If I’m that overwhelmed, I will definitely stop so I can breathe and think. I have to know the man I fall into bed with and know him well. That’s the key that will ‘open’. :slight_smile:

I’m glad you’ve found your ‘sweet spot’ with the 'mones and they make things smoother for you. Since I don’t like the scent much, the mones will always irritate me on some teeny level. I’m used to it, but the mones just are means to an end. :slight_smile:

The guy called last night and we talked for a while. I was under the weather this weekend and it turns out he spent Saturday with a friend. He’s from another country and went to visit someone from his country. He did sound a bit down and stressed so we talked about that. How it is hard to live in NYC sometimes. He’s interested in my yoga interest and I told him that it’s not something that works in one session for stress but kind of over time.

He did sound better and said I made him feel better. Aww. So we are bonding without pheromones! He had given me a gift from his country that he says men give to women they like, I asked what do women give to show they like a man. He said, ‘A kiss.’ :wink: Well, I knew that. LOL. I think keeping that line between friend and more than friend is difficult. We obviously want more but I want more than kisses.

We’re going to a film festival on Tuesday night. I’m going on a yoga retreat this weekend. I don’t think my pheromones will be here by then and I’m reluctant to use the ISB/p78 pairing I used when I first met him. So . . . we shall see.

Second date with the new guy. We went to the film festival for films from his country. He was so quiet but later he hugged and kissed me on the cheek. He really liked it and I’m glad since it was my idea. I couldn’t tell during the films. He’s so sweet. And he’s very physically affectionate which is nice.

I chose not to use the p78. He was still as touchy. I think that’s him. :slight_smile: I used a teeny bit of the ISB but only like 1/2 a spray. It was a very pleasant evening. He walked me home and gave me two quick kisses on the mouth at my door. He did ask if I wanted to invite him in for ‘coffee’. But I declined. I’m not a early sex person. It was a lot for me to trust him to show him where I live. I have only done that once and never on a second date. But I live in a bad neighborhood. He tensed right up once we got off the train, like he was ready to protect me from a tiger or something.

I don’t know about the chemistry, though. I don’t even know that it matters. I like him. And not just as a friend, either. I guess anything seems less than the 10 I had with the last guy. But that’s just it. The last two guys I had so much physical attraction to. My ex, we are better friends now, than we were when we were together. And neither of those guys really had real romantic feelings for me. This guy, he’s a still waters run deep kind of person. He seems to genuinely like being with me. I’m just not as infatuated as I usually get, not because he’s nice but because I want to take things slow and I’m feeling a bit burnt from the last guy.

I like the way this guy smells. This is always a good thing. And next time I’ll use the p78. I just wanted to know how it would feel without them.

Using Instant Shine (Double Strength, one spray) at work. I don’t feel it’s really working as a social thing. Maybe ever so slightly? I’ll see how it works on a guy this weekend.

Those ‘to-go’ sprays go fast. I do feel the lavender aroma therapy spray I use at the office works wonders for relaxation. It’s an open office so any scent travels to everyone.

Third date with this guy. Hmm. It’s been 14 days since our last date. Yeah, I went to yoga retreat for a day and a half. Then he got the flu last weekend and canceled on me at the last minute because of that. Today he looked fine for the flu on Friday.

I wore Instant Shine (two sprays of the double strength) and p78 since I’m out of ISB. I couldn’t summon much attraction to him. We had a good conversation and he tried to be his normal affectionate self but it was odd. He wanted to meet me for what he said was 1-2 hours. Okay. We met for an hour and spoke in the park. He offered dinner but I truly wasn’t hungry. Then by the time I was hungry he was angling to go home. I remember asking, “Where are we going now?” And he said to the train.

It was odd. He had had the day off. He wasn’t tired. But he didn’t seem to want to extend the date. I teased him about going to bed at nine o’clock. But he said he wasn’t tired.

My last few date experiences have been pretty discouraging. And this guy, just doesn’t contact me enough between dates to make up for the 10 - 14 day wait between them. He says I’m busy but I’m home by 9pm every night. He’s an interesting person and I like the way he smells, but I’d honestly like to spend more time with him but he doesn’t seem to give me more time. I should have said something but to be honest, I didn’t want to say anything that made me seem more interested. His touch isn’t unpleasant but I really didn’t want him to kiss me after one hour. I know for a guy to hear I want to see him but don’t want him to walk me home or touch me is confusing. But a woman needs more than 90 minutes of a man’s time after two weeks to warm up. Good grief, that seems obvious to me.

What a world. Too much chemistry is a problem, not enough is a problem. I don’t know if the pheromones made one whit of difference in any instance.

Instant Shine (double strength) is a bit of a mood lifter and gets people talking. But hey, all of these 'mones get people talking.

I read this online:

And let me tell you… it sucked. It absolutely, positively SUCKS big time to be sitting there waiting and hoping for someone to come talk to you. Waiting and hoping that cute girl you like comes and flirts with you and maybe even asks you out. And if she doesn’t, well, some of the time you’ll even shrug and say to yourself, “Eh, who needs her.”

This is how women feel ALL THE TIME, because most women are trapped in a perpetual state of waiting and hoping for men to take action. They aren’t going to walk up to you and start talking to you, 99.7% of the time; it violates every law of male-female dynamics.

This is how women feel all the time. Like I always say, all the pheromones in the world isn’t going to change male-female dynamics. This guy needed to take the lead in flirting or keeping the connection between dates. I admit, he may have needed cues from me. Which I had been giving. Our first date was on April 30th. I think him canceling on me last Friday when I was all gussied up to see him just killed it. I can’t tell him that. He can’t help having been sick. But he didn’t say anything until I e-mailed him on Friday morning. Then he said he was available yesterday but then canceled that, later telling me he had a friend over.

Whatever, dude.