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Just stopping by to say hello. I suspect I’ll be more lurker than anything for the next few weeks while I devour most posts and do my own research with 3 produts I ordered Sunday morning. After I have a good knowledgebase based on other user’s experiences and some of my own I’ll likely become a bit more active with questions and insights of my own.

About me you say? Eh I’m terrible at talking about myself. Late 20’s, success enough with women more looking at modifying social behaviour of those around me… already the natural funny guy and can keep attention whether it be at a group dinner, in an office or at a lounge… just looking to kick that social spotlight/attention/retention up a notch for now. Absolutely not looking for a get-laid-now product but more of a stroke-my-ego-some-by-having-more-eyes-and-ears-on-me while I decide myself if there are concrete and worthwhile results or if it’s mostly placebo.

Going to tinker with ammo, instant shine, turn up the heat in various combinations (and solo at various quantity) for a couple of months mostly in an upscale lounge to see the results I get from hetero male businessmen at a conversation level (even see if I can’t get them to buy my drinks if I can keep them interested in our conversation, see if I can command more of their respect than I do already) and hetero female arm candy at a flirty moving toward sexual level without having any desire to actually have sex with them.

With those goals in mind, I’d probably want to lean more on the instant shine with a bit of ammo backing for both, then with the latter in mind toss in a bit of turn up the heat, no?

With the former goal in mind, would there be any single other compound that I should pick up to use in addition with the IS for use outside of a lounge setting? While I’m devouring and grokking the content here I want to start thinking about a cocktail to use more in business settings to start tinkering with if/when I see desireable results from the three products I’ve already ordered.

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With those goals, I would have thought IS, IO, IH and either IG or A314 would have been a better starting point - These hit all the buttons on the social/engaging/convo far better. Although Ammo and IS will still be useful too.

TUTH, if you are not looking to sleep with someone is not going to be a great help, indeed a strong sexual vibe but just social behavior will likely set folk against you/put-up walls, esp with guys. Its the chemical equivalent of walking around with your cock-out - which is apt to go badly in polite company.

So if you want just one phero to complement your choice, Either IO or IG would be my suggestion - IO will make TUTH a bit more socially acceptable whilst IG projects a smart, sociable but high-status feel, which can be superb at stimulating conversation.

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I’ll keep this in mind, perhaps carry it on my person and apply a half hour or so before we close down the lounge, duck into the employee bathroom apply then pop back out.

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Yup - That’s often how I work with TUTH. Start the night with a more broad-based social/status/engaging mix, then introduce the TUTH when it moves to the clubs or more raunchy/determinedly sexual environment, where a sexually overt signature/behaviour is much more acceptable.

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This is what I’ve gathered so far from stickies. Sound about right?

“if you’re under 13, you don’t need pheros. go spend your money on Pokemon, or something like that. I personally wouldn’t recommend pheros for anyone under 17, but the high school crowd seems to be growing at an insane rate, so you’ll be included.” having met Roy Hibbert on several occasions, I’d apply this to him as well (sorry, had to throw that in there, he’s an avid Pokemon fan and a very modest/reserved guy despite being 7’2 and a 26 year old multimillionaire athlete). ha!

-none’s are Androstenone, young people tend ot have more, O blood type tend to have more. 5mcg is adequate for most into the late 20’s.
-nol’s are Androstenols (Alpha and Beta e.g. alphanol/betanol). These are found in sweat, higher levels in women and obese men.
Alpha - promotes communication and openess, helps one be approachable
Beta - promotes deeper conversations, less approachble/requires more activity on wearer’s part to intiate conversation
-taa test molecule a tends to make people less like Eeyore, more like Pooh… Less like Felix more like Oscar (odd couple)

*most *-nol’s appear to be generally good for business settings
*most *-none’s should be avoided in quantity in the workplace unless buffered
*most *-none’s should be avoided by 16 year olds through to mid 20’s, Androstenone levels are high enough in most individuals that fall in this age range.
*most *-none’s will serve you well clubbing/bar-hopping but you can overdose them
-none’s should not be applied to hair or directly to clothing, they are ‘sticky’ and will linger
Some ‘mones’ have a more pronounced effect on someone you already have previous rapport with.

If there is actual biological effect going on, results vary on both wearer and target subject, one wearer to the next will experience different results and one wearer will experience different results from different target subjects. The age of both wearer and subject as well as the type of ‘mone’ appear to be two of the largest factors at play.

**#**One’s personal demeanor still matters, consider this augmentation not replacement
**#**Mental state of the wearer’s target subject will still have influence in their responsiveness
**#**Humidity matters, moderate humidity is ideal. Temperature matters, too hot or too cold and you get poor dispersal/reception.
**#**If there is actual biological effect going on, results vary on both wearer and target subject, one wearer to the next will experience different results and one wearer will experience different results from different target subjects. The age of both wearer and subject asll well as the type of ‘mone’ appear to be two of the largest factors at play.
**#**Natural tastes and feelings matter, ‘mones’ can’t change them, only amplify them
**#**Social cues coming from wearer that conflict with applied ‘mones’ can and usually will nullify the ‘mones’
**#**In a group it can be beneficial, if you suspect someone has gravitated towards your group because of your ‘mones’ to find an opportune time to step away from the group to help the subject target lock on you as the source of their new found interest
**#**Cover scents MIGHT be more ideal to spray on a different patch of skin, preferably opposite of the ‘mones’ (oils should especially be applied somewhere besides the cover scent or their diffusion will be accelerated by the alcohol in cover scent)
**#**Higher temp, faster dispersal and saturation of environment
**#**Lower temp, slower dispersal and saturation of environment
**#**A 12 foot radius is a fair approximation of the ‘mones’ area of engagement in a typical environment
**#**It is best to start with very little and gradually increase till you find what works best for your chemistry and setting. once you start to see noticeable results you should ‘overdose’ once applying an excessive amount to see what the negative results are so you can determine where the balance between too little and too much.

Application points
Jaw line & upper lip - good for effects on one’s self
Neck & hair - good overall diffusion (again avoid direct hair application with -none’s)
Chest - good for close contact
Wrists & arms - good in situations you’ll be gesturing frequently

Not unlike any other substance Some people will respond negatively, some positively, some not at all

There is a very good possibility ‘mones’ do nothing and it’s simply the Observer Effect and/or Placebo Effect.

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Yes, that’s about right but the other thing to remember is that overthinking anything social/sexual - and that includes mone use is liable to end in failure. Its not that exact a science as social and personal variables have significant import. You sometimes have to make a leap of faith and go with something that looks suitable and see what works and at what dose. Trial and error is all part of it. As is finding the inevitable exceptions to every rule - like meeting an Asian girl who really responds well to IJ!

Also, I’d avoid face/jawline applications till you know you are not allergic to any of the cosmetic components as that is one of the areas most likely for irritation. Also, IMO it is not a good idea to rely on mones for self effects as you can get used to some very quickly, so they fade.

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Roger that.

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I will vouch for IS, I put 3 sprays of IS on this morning for the first time, within minutes I was happy and carefree like a lot of people report, popped into Starbucks (just to have someplace other than the office to see results, particularly hate their coffee but in the name of science!) and got smiles from all 5 customers I walked past, normally I get “omg is he going to shoot the place up” looks.

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Welcome Ryanmercer,

This is a super informal and not so tailored response if you will.

I would luuuuuuuv to spend more time assisting you especially since you are a newbie.

We are short staffed and these gift certificates are done manually.

It takes a great deal and I am back logged.

I am hoping that when I catch up on my work, I can start answering these intro threads the way I use to

In fact, I am hoping that soon, someone more experienced than me can come in so I get to do what I am great at, customer service.

Thank you for giving pheromones a chance.

Your gc was issued!