IFM affects people in different ways. And evedently it affects males and females differently. I’ve not noticed any “depression” per se. I also only use about 1 or 2 sprays and usually on the back of my head/back.
Nor have I noticed what I would call a “stank.” There is a noticable clary sage scent to the bottle I have. And most important of all, no female has ever complained about it…
Instant Female Magic might depress you or make you tired and think negatively (it does that to me) or it might not (not every single guy gets the ‘depression effect’). In any case, you may find the effects are worth it (at least sometimes) for the positives it brings about with regards to females around you. It can break through sometimes when no other mone will, not even Alpha Androstenol.
Visionary
I think negatively enough. If the effects of IS on me are any indication of how I would respond to IFM, then it’s not an experience I am willing to pay for.
OK, so I broke down and paid for it. The “To Go” sized bottles make it a heck of a lot more accessible. I ordered IFM and Ammo.
Why? Because I’m an evil bastard. I’d like to see if I can negatively influence a male co-worker while positively influencing the females. THIS will be interesting.
Using pheromones has become part of my daily routine - I just don’t think about it anymore - and tonight I realized that I also hadn’t been paying as close attention to the people around me as when I was actively “experimenting” with different mixes.
If I hadn’t been hit over the head with these next few “hits”, I wouldn’t be posting right now. So I’ll post this update tonight and will probably begin posting again weekly, once I receive more pheromones. I think I might start a blog on this site. Anyhow, I ordered Instant Female Magic and Ammo, and I’m expecting some freebies from Androtics . I’m ordering Chikara from Love-Scent in the morning and may also order some more NPA.
I had been wearing 2-3 drops of A314 and 2 drops of NPA to work up until the beginning of this week. Then I noticed that the younger women I sometimes work with have ALL been avoiding me or at least keeping their distance. NO women under 25 would come near me or initiate any kind of interaction. So I stopped using NPA for a couple of days and then began using 1 drop of NPA and 2 drops of A314 applied to the back of my head and sprayed with 1 big spray of Armani Black Code. Suddenly I had no more problems with younger women and I’ve been taken off guard several times this week by women apparently reacting to the combination of less NPA and a new application point.
I have a new military haircut and decided to apply all of my pheromones to the back of my head. I apply them, spray on the cologne, and rub it all into the fuzz on the back of my head.
I had four dramatic hits this week.
#1: A drop dead gorgeous redhead - a miniature Nicole Kidman clone - has been eyeballing and non-verbally flirting with me for the past 2 weeks, and I’ve been avoiding talking to her. She is way out of my league and I’m sure that I can’t live up to her pheromone-inspired expectations. There are several other reasons why I’m not only not pursuing this, but also running the other way - but to make a long story short, I can’t run any more. Last night I was leaning over a secretary, signing a chart, when she walked up behind me, put her hand on my shoulder, leaned against me, put her fricking goddess lips against my ear and whispered “I just have to tell you, you smell so F—ING good.” I stood up, in shock,
and turned around to see her grinning from ear-to-ear, and then she backed off, turned, and walked away - still grinning – luckily for me, she did all of this before I could ruin everything by strategically placing my foot in my mouth.
She’s either a psychologist or social worker who works with psych patients. She’s also engaged and has a ring the size of Texas.
Waaaaaaayy out of my league. She had been standing 5 feet away, talking to a doctor and smiling at me when I walked by. To recap: 2 drops of A314 and 1 drop of NPA, 1 shot of Armani black code, all rubbed into the back of my miltary-haircutted dumbass head. Not to mention Axe body spray everywhere else.
#2: Cute blonde student. 32, looks 18. Says she can’t show me all her tattoos when we’re at work.
Yesterday while showing her something on a vertical computer workstation, I felt her breathing down the back of my neck. Her nose and lips brushed against the back/base of my skull when I jumped/arched my back in reaction to her breath on my neck. She just smiled but was otherwise very professional - acted like nothing had happened.
#3: Red-hot Irish brunette nurse in the ER. She looks like a cross between Dolores O’Riordan and Shannon Doherty and hardly ever smiles. But when she does, I swear that time STOPS.
I think she’s about my age. I haven’t said ten words to this woman, but we eyeball each other constantly from across the room, when talking to other people. She’s always busy, I’m always running around, I have no reason to talk to her. But Damn she’s one of the main reasons I can’t wait until I’m divorced…
Today I ran into her in the ER, and said Hello. Me, being Mr. All-Business-like-a-jackass, I didn’t realize how idiotic I was until “everything was said and done”. When I said hello, she stopped everything she was doing and smiled her perfect smile, and said “Hey!”, with very wide eyes. Without thinking or blinking, I immediately asked her about the identity of a patient, and she looked very disappointed, downcast for a second, before answering my question and walking away. What was she EXPECTING me to say or do? (Duh, anything but what I did ask her.) I can’t afford to do that again. I can’t keep my eyes off of her, and want to explore whatever possibilities there are with her sometime in the future.
#4: 1 female cutie was very flirtatious, said she was “very impressed by you” and interested in my photography, portraits, and artwork. I noticed her staring at me three seperate times, and - without thinking - asked her (each time) why she was “looking at me like that.” She never answered, seemed kind of distracted (she WAS very tired). I think she’s married but know for a fact that she has a 12 year old daughter. She expressed great interest in the fact that i also have a daughter. We sat around talking for awhile, and I was reading my email, when I noticed she had pushed her chair up behind me, and was leaning the back of her head against the top of the back of my chair - she was very casual, used me as a backrest. More group conversation, more staring, then she blurted out “you have gorgeous eyes and the looongest eyelashes”. I love her cute Minnie-Mouse like voice and slight lisp. It’s sexy as hell. So Idiot / still-married-moron mode kicked in AGAIN, and I said - literally – “Uuuhhhh, thanks.”
So… go get a military haircut and rub your pheromones into the back of your head. It works like magic at 3-5 feet. I imagine it works even better if you HAVE some charm - that and half a brain.
Buzzed haircuts are great. It gives you a cleaner appearance (you don’t have to buzz it too short, just fade it short enough to look decent) and you do not look like the typical guy walking around with longer hair.. no offence.. I’m of the opinion long haired guys is not a very masculine look. Ontop of that it can help make the rest of you look good if you are especially in good shape.
Well, I’m not exactly in the best shape quite yet, but I think I’ve got a few people fooled. I’ve heard “Pete, you’re not fat.” and “You look like you take care of yourself.” Well, the mirror, the scale, and the calipers say I’m both fat and overweight. But I’m with you on the haircut. When I let my hair grow, I look like Albert Frickin Einstein. I suppose if I had his I.Q., that wouldn’t necessarily be a bad thing. But I just can’t pull it off. I will be getting a haircut every month from now on, not whenever I feel like it or when I have nothing better to spend my money on … once a month.
A314/NPA/Ammo/IFM/Chikara
I ordered AMMO and Instant Female Magic last friday - apparently it was shipped, but if I remember correctly from my last order, the USPS and Androtics aren’t exactly on the same sheet of music as far as shipping and especially tracking. I swore up and down the last time, that I would only use fed-ex for my next order - but then I completely FORGOT to use fed-ex. I’m also expecting some experimental freebies, but don’t know when they’ll arrive. So I used Fed-Ex to order 30 Chikara gel packs from Love Scent this morning, and it is enroute. I expect to receive everything around the same time, hopefully by wednesday at the latest. So this brings me to my next question – I’m obviously moving beyond my NPA/A314 combo. Given my new smorgasbord of pheromones, what’s the best way to combine them?
“What should I do?”
On thursday and friday I wore my new, toned down NPA/A314 mix. (1 drop + 2 drops) and was again taken off guard. Also, on Saturday I worked with a few new young 20-something females, and was overwhelmed by all of the sex-talk and boyfriend worship. I “opted-out” and tried to stay out of the mix. “Party Girls” still stuck in a dance club addiction phase. Not for me.
But on thursday and friday I worked with one young lady who I wrote off as being odd, until I just skimmed a few threads on A314 and also on MX102. Seems it has the Leadership effect on this girl, and it’s not cool. I’ve observed her working, and she’s very self-sufficient until she notices me. Then it’s “Pete, what should I do?”…“What do you think of this?”…“Show me how…”…“Where do you want me?” etc ad nauseum
2 week A314/NPA Backlash
If you’ve been following this thread you’ve undoubtably noticed that the NPA/A314 combo works well. At least at first…
Something that I noticed tonight is that once people get to know me, there’s little to no effect. Theres even a bit of a backlash or rebound effect - specifically, women who were originally interested seem to reverse their interest pretty quickly. It could have something to do with the fact that I’m not pursuing them and they may think i’ve rejected them or dropped the ball, but their reactions have been more extreme than one would expect if that were the case. I’ve seen (and written about) this behavior before, but it takes time to establish or observe a pattern. And that’s what has happened.
I’m talking about complete derision, barely disguised looks of disdain and disgust. Women who expressed immediate interest and warmth, and guys who deferred to me or instantly treated me like their bro’ - they stop doing that, and they rarely do it after more than 2 weeks. Again, just so that nobody accuses me of being unfair, I admit that I have not used the A314/NPA effect to try to get dates. I don’t know if women will dump you fast after the effect wears off in around 2 weeks, but personally I wouldn’t want to find out.
I also haven’t quite seen the “James Bond effect” - but what I have seen has been fun. At least at first. Then I thnk they wake up to the fact that “Hey, wait a second, he’s just an ordinary guy, and I’ve been treating him with respect that he hasn’t earned.”
So I’m scratching YET ANOTHER pheromone combo off my list.
Luckily, I’m expecting a shipment of new pheromones to experiment with on wednedsay. And my mail comes just before I have to go to work. This gives me one day to get rid of the NPA/A314 that’s still left on my skin.
Thanks for posting this and being honest!
I think it is the NPA causing the backlash more than the A314. If you search people’s experiences with NPA (and mine too), you will find that at times it can make women give you all kinds of crazy, obvious sexual hits especially when exposed to it for the first few (or just first) times, but this effect can be extremely sporadic (probably works much more consistently when a female is ovulating). In fact, I pretty much always get more bitchiness and aggression when I wear it (even a little) and so do many other people. Of course looks and the way one acts do play a big role, but I do notice over at that other place, even an easygoing, sociable professor with a ‘buddha’ relaxing face (Gegogi) who was huge on wearing it at work and having horny chicks come onto him is not wearing it at work anymore - he now says that the occassional bitchiness and aggression that he gets from it just are not worth whatever ‘benefits’ he gets from it. And if he can’t wear it successfully on a regular basis than noone can.
If you want to be the Alpha with a sexual edge without the anger and bitchiness try A314 and P79. I add other ‘comfort’ and ‘social’ products to these two though such as IS, IFM, Spaceland, IH, etc.
Indeed I think we should focus here more on actual longer-term positive outcomes that one gets from wearing mones rather than traditional ‘hits’ that one gets from wearing products like NPA.
Visionary
Dude,
I’m nothing if not honest. I have no vested interest in any of these products, and I look at my pheromone use as a kind of social experiment and a distraction. I’m actually holding back though, trying to be civil yet still critical, since I don’t want to be kicked off of either of these forums for my opinions.
I’m leaning towards buying MX102 or some other more “extreme” version of A314 now because now I don’t think it’s possible to “prove” to myself that A314 is having an effect. The effects, if there are any, are so subtle that they are easily dismissed as being ordinary behavior. Because of this, both P70 and P82 seem interesting to me. My budget for the month is shot, though. I just received my fed-exed Chikara from LS and i’m still waiting on my USPS shipment of Ammo and IFM from androtics.
I’m reposting most of an A314 related post here, from LS…
This post is an edited version of my recent post from LS.
I wore A314 by itself yesterday, and peoples behavior made me think very carefully about my use of it. To be specific, I had what some would call “hits” from a few beautiful (older,blonde, Pilates-honed…) women in a bookstore, but that was from over 30 feet away, and (because there was no way in hell they had been exposed to A314 yet - I was there for 5 seconds) it made me think…
It has become harder for me to attribute pheromones influence to the behavior of the people I work with day to day. People, and relationships, have their ups and downs, their cycles, highpoints, and rough spots. The people who I work with day in and day out, 8-10 hours a day do not treat me as if I were anything other than what I am, a friend and co-worker… while I hesitate to say that people who I have sporadic (or initial, new) contact with, maybe minutes or a few hours a day, treat me in ways that I can more easily attribute to the -mones.
Why do I hesitate?
Because I don’t know how specific strangers would otherwise choose to treat me without A314. Those women in the bookstore were a good example. They were “on the prowl”, and apparently liked what they SAW, because there was no time for my personality or pheromones to have any effect.
Also, I am called “Sir” and “Honey” as often as I’m called “Dude” - every day. It would be very easy to chalk this up to daily A314 use if I had not experienced this treatment in the past. I also think that using A314 every day and having a good day serves - psychologically - as positive reinforcement, but may or may not have anything to do with the actual presence of A314. Maybe A314 should be re-named “Voodoo”, because that’s possibly the effect it has on the wearer. All experiences are attributed to it, whether or not that idea is valid. “I had a good day…must have been the A314”.
Women go “on the prowl” in bookstores??
Who knew..
For my part, although I am an avid reader, I go to the store, buy my books and leave. It ain’t exactly what I would call a prime pulling spot..
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…nope, still can’t think of one thing that would make it so, but hey, whatever works, works I suppose..
Ail 
Gabe: I agree it’s sometimes difficult to guage whether a hit is pheromone induced. There are hits that you KNOW are pheromone induced though (eg. drop dead redhead says"You smell so effin’ good")
I’ve very rarely felt like I was being treated like a piece of “meat” by women. These women were in two seperate sections and were eyeballing me from the moment I walked in the store. They both quickly approached and chatted with me seperately, and I felt extremely uncomfortable after I saw them chatting together while smiling and eyeballing me again later. I was wearing a pretty flattering T-shirt (hid my “lovehandles”, showed off my shoulders) and apparently that’s all it took.
“Luckily” for me there were no other short fat guys around.
I’m not quite an avid reader. I mostly read magazines while at work, and buy whatever books are in the bargain bin. If I’m going to buy a decent book, I might check it out at the store, but then I buy it online. I go to bookstores partly for the books and partly for the women, but I was not there to socialize this time. I exchanged a Yoga video and left quickly. Maybe walking around with a yoga video in your hands is a magnet for women? I don’t know. Neither of them commented on it.
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Bookstores are easy places to find people who share your interests. For example, I imagine that you might find a certain pink witch or two in the section that has books on Wicca and related “kits” (ie runes, tarot cards, and demonology books are in the same section at B&N). Do you have large Borders and Barnes and Noble stores in Scotland? I’m part Scottish, BTW, Ail. I don’t know what part of Scotland my family is from, but I hope to eventually visit there someday.
When I go to the bookstore - and when many other Americans go there, it’s partly to socialize. I hang out there, grab some Mocha or Soda (not a coffee drinker), browse all over the store, sit and read books or magazines that I don’t intend to buy, and generally just socialize with like-minded people. When my daughter is with me, she usually plays with the other children more than anything else (I take her there mostly for that) and we sit in the cafe eating pastries while deciding what to buy, choosing from the stack of books, Cds, and DVDs we would have collected while wandering around the store. Some people don’t go there for that – those people pretty much do what you say you do - grab a book and run. But at one Borders I used to frequent, they sometimes had live music, chess tournaments, book club meetings, and childrens puppet shows all going on at the same time on friday nights. It was not quite as loud or boisterous as a pub, but also not quite as sedate as a library, either.
As a matter of fact, I was wearing the same T-shirt that I am wearing in my Avatar photo.
Yeah, THAT was a definite hit.
I think she no longer works here as I haven’t seen her since that night. I’m not sure how I feel about that.
Maybe she was feeling brave because it was her last night, and said something she ordinarily would not have said. I say this because I DID get an impression that she was very happy to have said what she did, or at least very happy with my response. People don’t ordinarily back away from you with a sh-- eating grin on their face and then walk away, still smiling. She was practically skipping - taking very large, bouncing/bounding steps – obviously pleased with herself for some reason. Happy to get that off her chest? I don’t know. I was too shocked (and turned on) to respond coherently.
Gabe, try 2-3 drops of a 1:1 mix of TUTH + Bnol, see what difference you see with your co-workers. apply 15 mins before you hit work.
What you describe looks to me like an A314 ‘adaptation’ by others around you.
I found that the same exact mix gets adapted to by ‘regulars’ in more or less 3-4 full days, so a little change, even in mix ratios, can break that adaptation.
We humans, say we hate change, but subconciously we can’t live without it.
I don’t have those pheromones ( and have no intention of buying them. )
I have Chikara, NPA, and A314.
STILL waiting on Ammo, IFM, and whatever mysterious experimental goodies I’ll be getting. Was supposedly shipped 13 days ago, but I have trouble believing that the actual ship date and the date I was told it was shipped on was the same day. I think they printed out the postage 13 days ago, but didn’t actually ship it.