Hi there,
my name is Jamal and I am from London UK, im am currently living and working in IT In a hospital in qatar in the middle east. I am a perfumer by hobby and am waiting for this big breakthrough to launch my perfume business.i make sperfumes, colognes, soaps, lip gloss, lip balm and so on. my interest in Pheromones is not for me.I am a very bubbly and chirpy charatcer myself and very famous with people and especially the opposite sex. I used to be a DJ radio and club so pulling the opposite sex is not a problem with me.I also am a very talker too. As i said i work in ahospital and get greeted and given tea and chocolate by beautiful nurses and secretariers and other hospital workers whenever i go and help them fix their computers. i have ben a skeptic about whether pheromones work but have recently been reading on it and need to be convinced for myself so i can use it inmmy perfumes to it that punch. I want to see what effect it has or does not have with women, I want to see if it makes me more bubbly and chirpy and the others around me.
Daily i just stand out of my office and see all these hospital staff go past many of the women give me smiles and even the patients and visitors.All this happens with out mones I want to see what happens with them
I heard Pheromones get women to get all personal and tell there intimate lives, I hear pheromones make some sweat and so on I want to have a laugh and see if all this works.I don’t to bed these women.I am married and so are many of them and i haveknown them for years working with them. I just want to have a laugh and see if they go that little bit further with the pheromones. waiting for my order with impatience.
Peace
Jamal
P.S Admin after all this do i get the $25 LOL
Hi there Jamal,
Thats cool that your from London.I visited my sis there before and it was a pretty cool place.Thats interesting that your working in IT for a hospital,must be a pretty difficult job.Haha,im in that line too(><) Awesome that you also are a perfumer in your free time, bet you make some pretty nice smelling products(^^)
Haha,they definitely do work.Although think you might not notice the effects of the ones that increase conversation like instant openness since you already a good talker and have a lot of people talk to you so would be difficult to tell the difference.Haha,you may want to give instant shine or instant honesty a try though.Instant honesty is pretty cool for getting deeper connections with people and instant shine helps to boost peoples moods(^^)Think your intro definitely qualifies for the gift certificate so you would just have to wait a couple of days for mickaelia to check your thread and issue it(^^)All the best and looking forward to hearing stories of when you start testing them out.Bet youll have some interesting experiences(:-p)
Thanks for your response mate, so you been to London, where? I am from east london. talking about being famous with the people here.I just went to fix a computer for a very nice young lady, married, she has been telling me that here and here husband are travelling to the Uk soon on a business venture and she made me a nice cup of coffee as well so as i said contact with the opposite sex is no problem. As you say it may be difficult to assess the pgheromones since i am a very lively character anyway.May be i will see the difference if the women go that little step further and start confiding in me there personal secrets or even as I said get into a cold sweat and so on. Funny thing is that it is not the first time i am trying these pheromones i tried another company once and as i said since i am a very popular guy already i could not feel the effects.but the funny thing was the after effects.After i had stopped using pheromones , after it ran out women started acting strangely around me. 2 women i know very well at work came into my office ( 1 at a time and stood very close to me and spoke to me and were very happy being there.The funny thing is that they never came into my office before, I always go to theirs.But i was not using pheromones then.So I cannot say it wasd the effects of the pheromones, this is why i am still little skeptic. yeah i make my own perfumes and if this stuff works i will be using it in my perfumes. I often give out free samples to many of my friends so they give me feeback.So if this works there will be a different feedback, some are doctors and others teachers, who deal with people so if the mones make you more appealing to the people and they listen more then I got a good thing going here, if i put them in my perfumes.lets see when my order arrives.It is taking abit long 5th day today
Peace
jamal
Hi again,
Haha,dont really remember which part.Was wandering all over London quite a bit being a typical tourist(:-p)The science museum and history museum were pretty cool though.As was the stage shows,caught lion king which was pretty awesome.Fish and chips are always awesome also.Quite liked the rock and sole for its huge servings although dont know if they are still the same.Thats cool that you had a nice chat with a young lady while fixing her computer.Think its always easier to fix a computer in person,telling people over the phone can be a bit deadly if they arent computer literate(>_<)
True enough,the effects can be pretty subtle though.Although they are really fun to play with if you know what your looking for.Lots of fun interactions to watch.My girlfiends been my main test subject since its easy to catch minor differences(:-p)Thats interesting that you tried other pheromones already.There are lots of good ones floating around as well as scams so tend to have to be careful(><)Hmm,sometimes the mones can have a memory effect where they associate it with you so you can get effects even after you stop using it but interesting that it didnt happen while you were testing them so not really sure.That will be interesting to see what happens if you mix them into your own perfumes.Think scents can have effects all by themselves.Hmm,they are already scented though so may require some effort to get the perfect mix(^^)Bit weird that its taking that long.They usually ship extremely fast here.Normally get it within 3-4 days.Not sure how customs is over there though.Hows the tracking status?Hmm,what products did you order out of curiosity?Looking forward to hearing how it goes for you when you get them(^_^)
I had some very good friends from malaysia actually, many came to study Civil engineering, we used to joke at them telling that all of Malasia is just full of Civil engineers, what about doctors and lawyers and so. But i have met a few doctors here in the hospital from malaysia. I know a few words too.Apa khabar, Kabar baik
sapa nama.
Suda makan?
You see if I was to narrate my day here in the hospital I would wonder does one need pheromones or is it the person, the personality.I alays used to say that pheromones don’t work. it is the person.I used to be a DJ in the 80s. I had loads of women then and even untill now i am very popular with the women. Now if I walk out of my office and walk through the corridors to go and do my jobs here and there since my job is technical support, in hospitals we have long corridors leading to different department, i must at meet 20- 30 people aand greet and stiop and talk each time I go out. one reach my destination where the job the nurse or seccretaries there too are ever so friendly.So it is difficult to test. Even many problem swe solve by phone , however when we go and meet the people in person and solve the ir problem they are very happy , many say hey jamal you ae teh guy we speak to on the phone now we meet in person.Again this without pheromones.So upt recently i was ver skeptic if these have effects on us, i always put it down to the person, you either have it in you or you don’t.
Peace
Jamal
Hello Jamal and welcome to the forum.
Looks like you have a pretty interesting life. And there is a lot of room to cross experiment between your perfumes and the pheromones.
I always try to tell people that pheromones give off very subtle messages - almost more like whispers - and that the real work is up to the person wearing them. All the pheros do is help grease the skids. And yes a person’s personality plays a great deal in how the pheros work if they help at all. You can be wearing the friendliest mix in the world but if you are silent and withdrawn it will really not help much. They only help if you reach out socially.
If you are just looking for light social effects the the IO, IH and IShine would be right up your ally.
Also look into IG - it could be a very nice base for you. Non-sexual but certainly a good product.
Good luck and let us know what you decide to do.
Haha,cool.Yup,there are quite a few engineers,doctors and lawyers here.Lol,those are used pretty often here although with a little more slang(:-p)Your day sounds pretty cool.Its true that its mostly you when interacting with people and you sound like your really good at it.Pheromones tend to just boost or make interactions a bit easier.For people who arent naturally good at conversations and interacting ,differences are a bit more obvious but when you already get good results without them ,its a bit harder to tell which is you and which are because of the boost from the pheromones(><) Still worth giving them a try though to see what happen (^^) All the best and looking forward to hearing if theres any differences or noticeable effects.
I am going to have a very difficult task testing these pheromones because without them i am already very well known, popular, I laugh and flirt with the nurses and secretaries here even the directors.I walked into an office yesterday after the secretary called for a printer problem. When i got there as soon as I walked through he door the head nurse seeing me said a "hiiiiiiiiiiiiii, how are you doing long time no see.Then they informed with a big smile on their faces that it was ok Nnow the printer was working. So I said its Ok As along as i was greeted with smiles like these no problem even if I came it is not for nothing. Now all this was without pheromones.How will i be able to distinguish if I have pheromones on whether it is me or the pheromones. there is a director here a gorgeous stunning woman for her age, she is the executive director of one of the main hospitals here where I work.near the end of the day I usually stand outside my office and watch the people go by and say hello and so on she was coming from about 30 metres away she had a big smile on her face ( sometimes I wonder if these lady directors here use mones themselves cos they are always smiling) a smikle from one side of the cheek to tthe other Kind of to me and then when she came closer with a big smile on her face she said a big “Hellllllllo” and i answered back.Now Am I a bottle of Pheromones standing there to have such and effect on people I don’t know?
Now this same woman a director of the hospital I once got her on her hands and knees in her office, when i was installing her printer, she was looking for the CD right next to me on all fours.All this with no pheromones. So what am I going to hacve to watch out for more that in order to feel it is working.Would she have come and literally kiss me or touch me if I am wearing pheromones for me to beleive these things work.
This is the reason why I felt for a long time that these things do not owrk and that it is the person not what is in a bottle. Let us just wait and see .My order is still delayed, 6th day now nothing still at customs I hear.
Anyway Peace
Jamal
update:
this same lady just had me called into her office.CEO of the hospital.She needed her printer changed for a faster one so i went to install it.No pheoromones on yet, haven’t received mine. I doubt she uses pheromones because she was not that cool with her staff today or may be she uses it unconciously but is not today.I doubt she is using she may be just a natural like me. So anyway she was fuming with the staff but as soon as I walked it iwas all smiles and conversation started and she was happy again. She was even happier when i she asked for a new PC and ijust picked up the phone and asked for one for her. Now this was with no pheromones. She started telling me how patient she has become, coming here in the middle east and so on and we started talking about perfumery and soap and what i do and then she mentioned her ancestors in France were perfumers.Now don’t all this personal talk happen under effect of pheromones? I have none, just getting worried now because if these things do work what next from these ladies. Actually she could become one of my new customers.What is a good women’s pheromone that make a women feel good and others around her relaxed to.May be i should offer her one of mine perfumes with pheromones in there and see how see and the others around her react.
Oh another thing I forgot as soon as I walked in her office area her secretaries were all greeting,"Mr jamal morning how are you?"etc.Now how on earth am going to assess whether these mones work when these things happen without me even using them. I want my perfumes with a punch. So i am in a big mess at the moment if i want my perfumes to succeed, i need to feel these mones for myself
Peace
Jamal
Hi again,
Lol,your experiences do sounds pretty much like a person who wear pheromones although your not so not really sure if they will be able to boost you anymore.Haha,guess will have to just try and see(><)Hope your pheromones escape customs soon so you can get to testing(^^)
my order is till not here and it is a wek i am fed up.i might not order agin if it is like this 
A week is still very fast compared to other major phero sellers who often take 4-6 weeks or sometimes more if customs get involved. 
Did you get an email with a DHL tracking number? It could be held-up in transit and you can check that. I usually find it takes about three days to the UK.
The only times I’ve found it might take longer is if you have ordered a custom product - mainly putatives which need mixing to your spec but often that only adds a day or two.
Hi mobocaster,the reason why i ordered it was because everyone keeps saying they received theirs within 3-5 days and i paid $23 shipping to qatar for that reason,I hear it is held up in customs for clearence.I have the waybill number and whenever i call DHL they it is going to take between 24/48hrs. we are approaching the week end here and the customs will not be working. So in the end it will be 9 to 10 days or may be even more depending on when i receive it.This is not DHL express, also i thought that DHL had some sort ogf agreement with these customs that they don’t hold things that long.I mean i have not ordered a gun ot explosives otr anything dangerous. i will wait till tomorrow and then see.If it is not here by sunday I am going to complain to DHL for their lousy service.
Peace
Jamal
4-6 weeks, By DHL? I order a lot of stuff from Ebay, jewlwery for the wife, bits and pieces for the kids , i even ordered Andriod tablets and with normail mail, UPS and so on it does not take4-6 weeks and most of these companies I deal with do free postage.I am receiivng these in a week to 10 days free shipping now I am paying for DHL shipping $23 to wait more than a week. I can get that from these shops i order from on Ebay, 1 week, 10 days and they have to go through customs fro clearance too.Not that DHL is any better
Peace
Jamal
Hey there, Jamal.
I can see that you’re frustrated with the shipping of the mones. Customs can be finicky and that is very unfortunate that you got your order stuck in that mire of bureaucratic red tape.
Adding to the comment from mobocaster, you also have to see the process of making the mones as well. I’ve had orders take several days, almost a week to formulate. These mones are made in a lab and may take some time to make.
THEN, the order processed and shipped. Onced shipped, yes, you are now at the mercy of DHL. Then, at the mercy of customs.
The shipping world is a convoluted and crazy place. Sometimes, everything goes like clock work. And then, this happens, the order enters a blackhole!!
Hi alpha thanks for your input, however the mones were already shipped on friday so there was no waiting on that side , androtics have an agreement with DHL and it says like this on their website: International Shipping
$19.95 to $39.95 DHL International 1 to 3 day delivery, Fully Tracked & Insured. SPECIAL Free for a limited time w/orders over $400
For worldwide shipping, we now exclusively offer the most reliable international shipping service in world – DHL.
While we used to offer international mail options which seemed relatively inexpensive on the surface, tracking was not available as it is with DHL. US Postal packages are more likely to be lost or tampered with along the way, and are sometimes very slow in clearing customs (they can take more than a month to some countries vs. several days maximum for DHL).
DHL:
- Provides full step-by-step tracking, so you always know exactly where your package is.
- Leaves the United States immediately, as it is not affected by US Postal delays.
- Cuts through customs office delays and hassles, often in just a few hours. Unlike UPS which charges you an additional $25 or more, there is no additional “brokering fee” for this service.
- Delivers quickly to almost everywhere on the planet – guaranteed. Almost all international DHL packages are delivered directly to your door in 2 to 3 business day after they are shipped.
Now as i told androtics I always order stuff online from ebay.I get free shipping from most of the stuff I order there, yet they don’t take as long as DHL, they don’t promiss to cut through the delay and hassel of customs, yet i receive things withing 8 to ten days for normail international shipping, free postage.Now i have paid $23 shipping through DHLso i don’t have to wait, yet it is tajking as long as the free shipping i get by the normal post, UPS and others. If DHL cannot cut through the delay and custom hassel they should not say they can this is misleading. Up there it say 2-3 business days, mine has reached a week so far and we are the week end. this is why i am frustrated, if DHL did not promise to deliver within 2-3 days I would not have cared i would have paid normal postage and wait knowing that I have to wait.But now this is not what i paid for. Every time i call DHL they say it will take 24/48hrs.It has long gone 24/hrs since it arrived in the country and they have not even updated the tracking page since jan 29, last update was it left Bahrain jan 29 4.40 pm, when i call they say it has already arrived in Qatar since then.Anyway CYA
Peace
jamal
Most of these firms use USPS or FEDEX - Personally I’ve found DHL to be far better but you can’t predict when customs will strike.
Is there any chance you might have been caught-out by these being alcohol-base? I had a quick look at Quatar’s customs restrictions and found something that referred to a ban on any alcohol product over 60% - However I couldn’t quickly see if that only applied to products intended for drinking or if it covered perfumers alcohol as well?
IIRC PA is around 45%, so you should be ok but maybe John can confirm?
Since you seem not to really be able to understand not posting your customer service on the forum, I’ll go ahead and remind you to please stop it. In a most friendly way 
We already emailed you and explained that it was YOU who needed to go to customs, but you said you would not. Every country has a different set of customs rules and we do not control your governments rules and laws. Perhaps if you contact someone in your government you can change the laws of your country.
Mickaelia clearly explained what needed to be done in her reply email Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 12:21 PM:
I’m really not sure what else can be done. The forums stated policy is NOT to post your CS on it but you did anyway. The email clearly says to go to your local customs office with some ID and you refuse. I understand you are frustrated and anticipate the mones, but all you need to do is just go to customs. I really want you to have your mones, but it seems like for whatever reason you can’t get there. I’m sorry but you your country has laws that need to be adhered to.
You say you are a perfumer, are you planning to use these mones in products you plan to sell?
Hi steve, i just emailed Mickaela aswell to explain, It was not the case that i needed to go to customs.I was on the phone every day with DHL and not once did they mention that i had to go to customs to pick it up. They just mentioned that it was stuck in Customs and that it will take 24/48 hrs, every they said the same thing.Then they said that there was a heavy load in customs from all the courriers fedex, DHL and so on.I mean the conversations are recorded and it is all there. ID i sent them straight away, and they forwarded it,it was not up to me to go to customs anyway.
yes i am a perumer and my quest fopr mones are not for me ( if you read my posts you see that i am very poupular very alpha as it is) If this thing works I want to use pure concentrated mones in my performs, especially social mones that help you get more attention, for like public speaker, politicians, salemen and so on and for women may be copulins if that does the job.
I have received the mones yesterday and ask soon as i get time I will start a detailed log on her of the reactions
Thank you
Jamal