Himeros's Place

Field Reports & Anecdotal Experience Men's Journals
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Short updates:

  • Confirmed, with P96 in the mix I can wear higher eRone. At work I started out with 2 drops A314 together with 25 mcg P96. When wearing 2 drops A314 solo I feel too intense; high eRone makes me grumpy and unapproachable. People never initiate with 2 drops solo. Intimidation factor is high (my collegues are all late 10s early-mid 20s). P96 smoothes it out nicely. With 1 drop and ~35 mcg P96 I felt beta two weeks ago. 2 drops A314 was much better. I upped the dose to 37,5 mcg P96 along the shift and it was still all very pleasant. A mid 20s brunette girl (wallflower, 8 in looks) was sitting next to me and she opened me up. Asking me lots of personal questions, face flush, steeling glances, smiling eyes. Qualifying herself to me. She was studying literature at uni. When I asked her what she thought about a certain Nobel prize winning author - she became all apologetic that she didn’t know about him. Recommended her some books to read and she really seemed to be happy about this. At the end of she shift the smiled and told me she enjoyed our conversation.

  • Friday afternoon drinks with collegues in a bar. 2 sprays Ammo, 2 sprays IShine, 2,5 mcg P75, 7,5 mcg P74, 20 mcg P83. This mix was a bit too much for the occasion. I was drinking some beers and bantering with 3 guys in a circle - hadn’t met them before. All of them were super friendly and slightly intimidated. Throwing respect hits, agreeing with everything I say. One guy started to sweat a bit in his face - it wasn’t that warm inside. When I suggested we go join some female collegues at a table they all followed me (P75). Guys making sure my drinks were filled. One of them insisted I took a tequilla shot with him and his buddy. Female supervisor (mid 20s, blonde, super hot and curvy, alpha girl type - out of my league) was sticking to me like glue, very interested in what I was doing outside of work. Younger girls were stealing glances but were intimidated.

  • Been testing P74 (at 15 mcg) more extensively this week. More test runs necessary, but I already love it with A314. People are so much more friendly. I must admit my main focus has been on attraction and status mixes ever since I joined this forum - I really underestimated the power of social mones. P74 makes A314 more outgoing, funny and charismatic. Was slightly hungover after the Friday drinks at the office -fortunately more people were still feeling last night’s drinks. Got some minor celebrity hits. I was humming a song and being in a good mood despite the hangover, and a guy put his fist under my mouth like a microphone saying all playful ‘yeah sing for us man!’. A male collegue I’ve been working with a lot was much more talkative than usual with A314 solo. I’ve been working with this guy A LOT so I have a good baseline on how he usually behaves around me (more quiet, professional and respectful). Today he was much more open and we talked more about non-work related stuff than ever. Cracking jokes too both ways, like we were old buddies from high school. Remarkable difference, no doubt it was P74 causing this.

  • A314 + 15 mcg P74. A prominent member at this forum claims P74 works very well on Indian girls. I think he is right. A girl from my office’s recruitment department (late 20s, HB8) is from Sri Lanka (same ethnic group as people from Southern India). I was on my way to the toilet and I didn’t even notice her. I only talked to her once/twice ever since I started working at this job. She walked ~10 meters behind me and called on me and engaged me in a convo (P74 has a trail like diffusion like Ammo?). Apparently she heard through the grapevine I’m applying for jobs at some fancy companies. I was standing in the toilet door, already half-way in, for like 5 mins! She would not let me go, even though my body language was indicating I really wanted to go and take a piss. She was impressed by the companies I was applying to and told me she was gonna add me on LinkedIn, so she could stay in touch with me.

  • Meanwhile spring has kicked in here and last week’s date has been texting me a lot - all lighthearted and flirty. She even sent me a video of herself practicing yoga poses after I asked her to show some moves :open_mouth: :smiley: On Monday (the day after our date) she texted me she had been thinking all day long about how to follow up on our date. Yep life’s pretty good right now.

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Short updates:

  • 2 sprays MX297 + 2,5 mcg P75 while going out was amazing once again. Went for drinks with old buddies - easy to dominate the entire interaction. Betas slightly intimidated, but MX297 makes it still approachable and funny/witty. All the new people we met came to greet me first, as they recognised me being the centerpiece of the group. Guys and girls. Service from bartenders was exceptional. I only had to look in their direction and they were already coming. Celebrity vibe + P75 masculine presence. As usual they gave the bill to me. Ended up paying less than I drank because friends didn’t mind paying more because they were having such a good time hahaha.

  • A314 B spray - I recently ordered some spray again for higher impact situations; I still have half a bottle of the oil that I wear a lot. Been running the spray for 2 days at work now at ~1,5 sprays (hard to dose). I almost forgot how potent this stuff is. Much stronger than the oil, but only lasts for ~5 hours. Akuto smells fantastic. Best self-effects ever; over the top confidence. Better than P75. Didn’t have any breakfast in the morning. This usually makes me slow/grumpy - but A314 was like a nitrous booster for my mind this morning. Harder hitting on other people, resulting in more respect (and attraction?) hits too. I sold something over the phone. Girl sitting next to me that is working on the same project said - ‘Wow! You were on fire! How did you do that? It sounded so smooth and convincing, I would’ve bought whatever you were selling’. That’s a hit my friends :smiley:

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Mix
A314 - 1 drop
TUTH 1 spray
P96 25 mcg
P74 7,5 mcg
P83 10 mcg
IShine 2 sprays

Later added 1 spray A314 B + 1 spray TUTH + 20 mcg P83

Location: park + my place with fallout girl

This was our third date.

Seems like this mix is working very well. Masculine enough, a sexual undertone and the right mix of bonding and feelgood mones as buffers. TUTH was always problematic for me to wear, but this mix balances the eNone (and P79) out nicely.

I really love wearing A314 around girls that can stand the alpha harshness. Luckily fallout girl loves it. She really submits to me, waits for me to take charge and accepts everything I propose. Zero shit tests. Very much willing to help me and please me.

After picking her up at the station we went to the park to chill in the grass with a bottle of wine and some nice music. 22 degrees celcius, not much wind - sunshine. We were constantly pretty close physically so I’m sure the mones impacted her even though we were outside. Also, I made sure to hug her every now and then so she could sniff my neck :wink:

I was laying on my back, she put her head on my abbs. Lots of bonding and deep rapport. Her telling me all about her life. Decisions she’s made in life, things she regrets, things she’d do again, passions she still wants to pursue. Stories about her family. She also kept asking me questions about my life and kept looking for smilarities in our lives - as if she wanted to say ‘we have so much in common!’ (P74?). She also confessed she’s never been in a LTR, and was a bit intimidated by the fact that I have multiple years of experience.

Meanwhile I made sure to keep kino going and put in a playful/teasy remark every now and then. She was smiling a lot. P96 at work I think. Mounth and eyes were constantly in smiling position. Due to the sun I could see she was wearing make-up, covering some spots on her face (her skin is very white). Still I thought she looked beautiful. Atmosphere was very pleasant and comfortable. She was mirroring my body language all the time. I tested this a couple of times, and she was following all the time (example: I switched with my legs in the 4-figure position a couple of times to display interest). I went sitting behind her and started rubbing her upper arms and neck. She felt really comfortable being touched by me and escalating was smooth sailing.

When we arrived at my place I threw her on the bed and we started undressing eachother. LMR again when I tried to take off her panties. When I asked her what was holding her back (body language wise I could tell she really was DTF) - she told me she was a bit shy, and needed to feel 100% comfortable. My housemates were in the room next to mine making some noise and this was making her uncomfortable.

At this point I added 1 spray A314B and 1 spray TUTH from the big bottle - attraction was massive now, as she was staring at me like I was some really impressive being haha. Hard A314 compliance also. ‘You decide what to eat, I’m fine with anything you cook’; ‘Can I help in the kitchen? How can I be of assistance?’ This girl is a store manager so she is used to bossing people around in her everyday life. Think she really digs it to be bossed around by a dominant alpha male haha. Ofcourse I used this with a little role play.

After dinner she was lingering and chilling with me at the couch. It was getting pretty late and she had already told me she wasn’t gonna sleep over as she had to work early in the morning. Told her I was gonna take a shower, and she decided she’d stay for a little longer.

After the shower I applied 1 spray TUTH, 20 mcg P83 and 10 mcg TAC. Think the TAC provided the right comfort this time, because now there was no LMR. Also: my housemates were more quiet now, so who knows :wink: :roll_eyes:

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Mix:
A314 B 1 spray
P74 15 mcg

Location: the office

A314 B is potent stuff. I think there is some P75 in here, as my nose also starts twitching after I apply it. Self-effects hit right after application. Alpha-posturing, zero selfdoubt, lower voice, all the classic A314 effects are there. It has more depth/substance than P75. Makes me more relaxed and in control. With P75 I can be a little stiff/uptight, and nervous because I’m so high energy. Also: P75 makes me horny, A314B not so much.

Males are very friendly and respectful with this mix. I think the P74 adds charisma and (much needed) approachability.

I get more blatant hits from the spray compared to the oil - probably has to do with faster diffusion of the mones.

Another reason I think the spray hits harder: women threat me like I’m out of their league and start talking themselves down more, while showing massive attraction signs.

In one of my earlier posts I talked about nerdy secretary girl from the office (early 20s, blonde). She has given me IOIs before with several mixes. Yesterday she was standing at this message board, when I came standing next to her: huge DIHL. This was within 5 minutes after application, so the mones were fresh. In the afternoon I was sitting at a remote part of the office, because the supervisor failed to assign me a desk. Nerdy secretary girl had the same problem, so she came and sat next to me. When I initiated conversation with her she seemed off guard and nervous. Huge face flush, touching her face, adjusting her clothes all the time. After a while she became more comfortable and started engaging me in a puzzle she was making (she was bored she said, but I think she just wanted my attention). Talked a bit about her personal life. She was qualifiying herself to me, talking about some adventures she has had while backpacking in Australia, but that was a couple of years ago. Meanwhile asking me lots of personal questions, what I do; where I go out etc. While talking about herself she constantly was hinting she didn’t like the way her life was now, told me she was ‘failing in her ambitions at the moment’. While everything I said about myself was ‘amazing’ and such. She was really approval seeking, like she was talking to her dad or something. Lots of smiles and hairplay too. Talking about how some guy hit on her in the club passed weekend, but she didn’t like the guy (when girls tell stories like this, they’re usually just saying ‘give me attention’ in my experience). During the entire shift she seemed really distracted by my presence.

Today: same mix, same story, different girl. Also early 20s blonde girl. Talking herself down when I was sitting next to her. Told me: ‘I need to re-evaluate my life and get my shit together’. Strong eye contact. Lots of personal questions. Asking what I was doing, where I live exactly - everything I said (stuff wasn’t that interesting) seemed very interesting to her. Lots of hairplay, sideways glances.

Seems like the girls are starting to think long-term when an A314 man is in proximity.

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I’m only on page 8 of 11, and I plan on finishing but as a new user I have to say this journal was incredibly enlightening and entertaining. I actually felt like I was reading a story at points, and I could visualize the changes you were undergoing as time went on. It also has substantially increased my grasp of what each mone can and can’t do, as well as situations in which you might use each. Amazing stuff man.

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Mix:
A314 B 1 spray (neck)
TUTH 3 sprays (1 on neck, rest on chest under my button down shirt)
IH 2 sprays (neck)
IShine 2 sprays (neck)
P74 15 mcg (neck)

Location: my place

Things have been going pretty well with fallout girl. We’ve been meeting regularly and are having hot sex now. After the last time we had sex she said ‘don’t know how to ask this, but where is this going?’. The dreaded question… she caught me off guard. Told her: ‘Let’s keep things spontaneous and casual. I like flirting with you, I like your nerdy hobbies. We’ll see what the future has in store..’. She seemed to accept my answer. ‘Ok right, we should match our expectations’. For the rest she’s been displaying a lot of fallout behaviour. She’s always the one to iniaite texting.. Making plans for our next dates.. Telling me she’s looking forward to see me. All positive. I’m starting to like this girl, but I’m in no rush. Still feeling a bit emotionally distant. Things are fine as they are and I still wanna get to know her better. She wanted us to hang out with some mutual friends upcoming weekend, but I told her I have other plans. Not in the mood to introduce her to some of my friends yet.

Yesterday evening we met up at my place. At first I wanted to go with a straight-up sexual mix - TUTH with some social moderation. After applying the mones I felt nervous due to the androsteNone. Still haven’t found out where this girl is in her cycle after 2 months. Last time I thought she was on her period she wanted sex anyway. Didn’t wanna risk pissing her off, so I added A314 last minute.

I felt a crazy mone rush after applying all this stuff. My face was flushed for a good 15 minutes. Probably intimidating myself? :smiley:

She arrived pretty late at my place and I served her some food I had cooked earlier. She had trouble looking me in the eye and seemed intimidated - but not put off. She is usually like this when I see her. I’ve been wearing pretty strong alpha mixes around her so probably that has something to do with it. She always responds postively, but it takes her some time to be at ease around me. Always very keen on telling me what she’s been upto and how her day was. I’m not big on small talk myself, so I just sat there listening to her. What I did notice was she was constantly twisting her pelvis in my direction, as if she wanted me to notice her ass. No big hits I can attribute to phero’s for the rest, but the mood was pretty good allround. She cuddled up against me willingly and let me massage her neck and the rest of her body. Lets see how far I can push it with intense phero mixes around her.

After she took a shower she came back in a black lacey nightgown. Sex was amazing. Don’t have a steady benchmark with her yet to compare how she responds to different phero mixes sexually. So I guess I just need to keep testing :wink:

Today:

Mix:
A314 1 spray
P74 15 mcg
Possibly some cops on my nose? :o:rolleyes:

Location: the office

Girls and colleagues were very friendly. My problem was with the supervisors today. Normally it’s the other way around. Colleagues slightly distant, supervisors giving me respect hits. Maybe A314 spray is too much a treath to their authority. Maybe some residual eNone and cops were making me look cocky and unmotivated…

Two supervisors where kind of hostile towards me. Usually they are super fiendly. It was like they had to prove their authority over me or something. Certainly didn’t feel the buddy vibe I usually get with this mix.. (P74). While waiting for new data files that my supervisors are supposed to supply me with, I was playing with my phone behind my desk. This is not allowed on the workfloor, but people are playing with their phones all the time and the rules aren’t really enforced too strictly. My supervisor saw me and told me to put away the phone. He looked really angry and red in his face while telling me. I told him I was waiting for the files and there was nothing else to do.. He immediately got defensive saying ‘you got a problem with that?’ - while displaying very insecure and overcompensating body language. I was very relaxed just sitting in my chair. Gave him a frowning look and said ‘whatever man, relax’. I was a bit annoyed. He immediately looked away submissively and left me alone.

Second hit was when me and a female colleague of mine got an update and some feedback on our project from another male supervisor (male, late 20s). His feedback was very unreasonable and harsh. Usually in a feedback session you start with the good points, give some critique and end with positive notes again. This guy was only focusing on the things we where doing wrong. Meanwhile he was constantly looking at me and ignoring the girl that was sitting next to me. I hadn’t met this guy before, but it really seemed he was trying to impress/intimidate me or something. He was constantly talking in business lingo, telling us how he would do it better… Super overcompensating. I’ve only been working on this project for 2 days now, so ofcourse I can do better - I just need some time to learn and become more efficient. The girl has been working on the project for weeks now. She actually defended me a couple of times in front of the supervisor saying ‘he can’t know this, he just started’. After the meeting the girl told me she taught the supervisor was acting like a jerk and she didn’t like him. She was totally on my side :smiley:

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New P96 observations:

I usually wear 1 drop of A314 to work. It’s my sweetspot I’m very familliar with the effects it delivers in this environment. I usually add something to make it less intimidating like IShine or P74, but last week mostly P96. Dose range: 15-30 mcg. Usually 15 mcg (I have a 30 ml bottle in 7,5 mcg).

  • P96 is a muscle relaxant, just like TAC. Physically I feel very mellow. Effects are very obvious when combined with A314, as this one usually gives me alpha posturing effects. With P96 my body feels more elastic, and the air around me feels more fluid. It feels like it takes more energy to move around. Also: my heart rate decreases.
  • P96 selfies make me feel very empathic towards other people. If people on the phone give me shit I speak up less than I usually do, and I am more understanding. It makes me less productive, as my job requires me to have a go-getter mentality.
  • When face-to-face with someone the empathy effects are even more obvious. What I like to do at work: first couple of hours I wear A314 solo to have a baseline of behaviour from the people towards me. Halfway I add something to the mix, so I can observe how other people respond to it. Also I can keep track of selfies this way. After adding 15 mcg of P96 to 1 drop, girls always open me! With A314 solo this rarely ever happens. It makes high eRone so much more approachable/attractive. I’m talking about girls in their early 20s here - 21-25 age range. If I respond positively and show that I’m willing to talk and have something interesting to say, they won’t let me go for the rest of the shift. It’s not like they talk my ears off constantly like with Anol, but they want to continue the conversation and seek topics to re-engage me over and over again. I usually sit next to the same people for 4 hours in a row, so I have enough time to observe effects on people. P96 more so has a romantic Bnol vibe. There is no oversharing about deep, dark and negative topics like with IH sometimes - only positive topics. Self-effects wise I always feel calm, interested and caring about what other people have to say. Even pretty boring conversations feel ‘nice’ and sensual, like I’m making a real connection with someone. Yes, like I reported earlier - P96 creates a bond and an ‘us’ feeling. ‘We’re in this together’. ‘I can totally relate to that’.

BUT after 3-4 hours the P96 effects **sometimes **change for me for the worst. Only at 15 mcg combined with A314 - I started to feel weak. The exact words I wrote down in my notes were: insecure, shaky, unstable, irritable, low blood sugar? The time I experienced this effect there was nothing out of the ordinairy for the rest. It was a normal day. I did have breakfast, a good lunch, ate some fruit during the day etc. I also wasn’t dwelling on negative thoughts at all before these effects started to kick in. I just felt it creeping up on me, really slowly. I felt a little disoriented, with people talking and talking and talking around me. All I wanted to do is get the hell away from everyone to be alone somewhere. The last 2 hours of my shift were an absolute horror. I didn’t have the confidence to interact with anyone so I just tried to focus on my work. I couldn’t wait to get home. My body language was was also very insecure. I was trembling and found myself constantly touching my face and rubbing my neck.

Immediately scrubbed my neck with a washcloth, hot water and some soap after getting home. Took a 1 hour nap, drank a blueberry smoothie, after that I felt great again. Met up with my date and had a great night without P96 ofcourse (will report on this later).

Miss Dragon reported feeling vulnerable, unsure and exposed. I used different key-words in my notes, but this is exactly how I felt. I was keeping it together by just focusing on my work, but in a different situation, around friends maybe, I might have burst into tears as well. That’s how awful I felt.

Strange thing is: this hadn’t happened to me before. Even when I tried higher dosages of P96 (highest I went a couple of times was 37,5 mcg).

I have felt slightly lethargic before while wearing P96, but nothing like this.

Not something you wanna experience during a date or when you need to interact with people. It was like all my confidence had just evaported without any reason. Really strange. I’ve read a lot of things about A1 depression hitting people out of nowhere. Analyzing my own notes and experiences, this looks very similar to all the reports I’ve read.

edit: for some reason linking to Miss Dragon’s journal doesn’t work. I was referring to post nr. 66 in her journal.

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Cut-and-paste from P96 report , since linking isn’t working for some reason:

That’s a great testing method you have for combining, to wear the base layer for a half hour before adding the complement. I’ve previously wondered if environmental factors were skewing my results at times, and this method seems like a great solution. That way, you can make sure you’re getting standard results with the first application, and know for sure that the added molecule is creating the changed response.

Empathy…I can see how you could get that effect. I think I’ve experienced it subtly with the solo molecule, and I wonder if something in the A314 is enhancing this effect. Have you tried buffering A314 with a combination of p96 (perhaps at a lower dose) and some p74 ?

Hmm…you experienced the negative effects around the 3 or 4 hour mark? IME, 4 hours is about when the p96 starts to die off. I wonder if you were experiencing some sort of crash. Maybe some people experience some form of emotional crash with this p. Out of 5 ppl present, only 2 of them visibly broke down. My negs were present at the onset, so I find it interesting that yours took a few hours. How long does A314 usually last for you? Maybe it was providing stability that eventually faded. Or maybe the reverse was true…as a314 lost its buffer, perhaps it was too much to handle after the emotional priming of p96 .

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Yes it certainly felt like some sort of crash. But not a crash like with IS or high doses of -nols or P74. Too much of those just make me feel tired and burned out after a couple of hours. Paradox reported being extremely anxious, like having a panic attack at a dose of 100 mcg P96. My dose wasn’t even near that amount, but I had been wearing P96 for multiple days in a row. JohnnyHard reported a low dose of P96 (15 mcg and lower) gives different results compared to higher doses (less comfort, more aggressive). Maybe I can’t tolerate P96 for too many days in a row, will have to test more.

You raise some interesting points. It’s possible that P96 interacted with something in A314, but I’m not sure what. There are a lot of steering molecules in there. I have steered A314 with P96, P74 and IShine (all the same mix) before on dates and it worked really well. IShine and P74 are uppers, maybe they countered the P96 downer effect.

I once overbuffered A314 for the first time ever when I accidentally applied too much P96 (32,5 mcg) to 1 drop of A314. I felt super beta and didn’t feel the alpha A314 effects anymore. When this happened a nerdy beta guy colleague next to me was insisting to help me out and giving me advice at work. Never happens with A314 solo. People ask me for advice, not the other way around. Come to think of it… After I experienced the P96 crash described above I didn’t go home right away. I went to buy some fruit at the supermarket. A middle aged guy working there was really eager to joke around with me and help me find the stuff I was looking for. I was just standing close to him and didn’t ask for any help. I think P96 makes you look vulnerable, so people are willing to help you and want to cheer you up.

The first 1-2 hours after applying P96 (before my crash) I had a very pleasant conversation with an early 20s blonde girl. She wanted to know all about me and opened up about herself as well. Had never talked to this girl before.

A314 lasts at least 6-8 hours for me. I applied it 2 hours before the P96, so it was still going strong around the time I experienced the crash.

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Mix:
A314 1 spray (neck front)
TUTH 2 sprays (lower neck/chest)
P74 15 mcg (neck)
IH 2 sprays (forearms)
IShine 2 sprays (neck)

Location: my place with date

This fallout mix delivers results for me everytime I wear it around my fallout girl. I don’t have a list of hits for you guys, but the atmosphere and the dynamic this mix creates is something I really like. With A314 I can frame the conversation we’re having and steer it in any direction I want. No shit tests. She looks at me in admiration. Snuggles up to me on the couch. Escalating is easy. She loves the Akuto smell. Sometimes I use P96 instead of IH, but I had a crash on P96 earlier that day. With IH she talks about more serious stuff compared to P96… She worries about her little brother and complains a bit more about trivial stuff.

Possiby I could leave out the A314. Usually she just comes to my place after her work, we eat and talk a bit and we both know sex is gonna happen. Still I want to be consistent and remind her everytime I see her of the A314 sig.

Sex was great. She already texted me earlier this week that she was constantly thinking about sex at work.. She was really in the mood and very ‘encouraging’ hehe. No performance issues on my side. I felt agressive and I could go on and on till we both were exhausted. After we were done, she was almost falling asleep enjoying the music, so I got up and took a shower.

Mix: After that I applied 1 spray TUTH (chest), 20 mcg P83 (neck), 15 mcg TAC (shoulders and on top of my hands).

She massaged my upper back and shoulders with massage oil. She probably got a good whiff of the TAC (and P83), but at some point she also massaged the TAC application points on my shoulders, ruining the effectiveness of the mones probably.

When she was finished she lay beside me, ready for sleep. She told me she was exhausted but I was still horny and started seducing her. She didn’t seduce me or tease me back - she seemed a bit mellow - but she didn’t resist either when I got a condom for round 2. The sex was less long and wild than round 1, but much intenser. Now I know why both TAC and P83 are in the best sex ever mix! It started out very sensual, with me caressing her face with my hand where I sprayed the TAC (thanks for the tip M&M). I could feel her pelvic muscles contracting around my gentleman’s equipment. It got more and more intense and at some point she even grabbed my hand and put it firmly around her throat…

Think I unleashed her inner freak :open_mouth::smiley:

Next day she is texting me how her scarff smells like me and how great it smells…

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Himeros, glad to hear you had a nice date. :slight_smile:

I’m curious about your experiences with TAC. Have you had sex with her w/o the TAC? If so, how did it differ?

Did she orgasm more intensely or quickly? Were her contractions stronger? more frequent? Or does she not normally contract like that?

Would you use more p83 next time? Use less TAC to keep it less mellow? Or maybe see what TAC does at higher amounts?

Sorry if these questions are too personal. I’ll be trying some TAC soon, we can compare notes.

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Hi Phya, I’ve sent you a PM.

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Short updates:

  • Continued observations with P75. I already wrote that it is the predator molecule. My parents have a barn owl as a pet. When you stand still it barely sees you / ignores you. Once you start moving it starts focussing with its head, zooming in and out to observe every little movement you make. When I wear P75 I also have an obsession with movements. I recognize facial muscle movements more easily, and everytime I recollect a memory - the first thing that comes to mind is a visual cue. It’s not about color or contrast here - it’s about motion. Maybe also depth.

-Haven’t experienced any crashes with P96 anymore, so for now I consider my observations in post 106 an incident.

  • Mixes including MX297 and P75 haven’t been giving me the results I was looking for around old friends. MX297 too buddy buddy - P75 the exact opposite. Combined it’s a solid combo around ladies, but some of my buddies don’t dig P75. The so called P75 ‘bro-effect’ I’ve only observed with acquaintances/colleagues/random strangers. Around people you already know results with P75 are very volatile.

  • So I went back to good old Ammo + IShine around old friends at 3:3. This combo just works, period. Sometimes I wonder why I keep playing around with the putatives. Pleasant conversations with the guys. No hard respect though, but no negatives either. Solid attraction from the ladies. One of my best friends and his gf seperately asked my what cologne I was wearing because it smelled soooo good. Told them it was Cool Water. After ramping up the mix with 20-30 mcg P83 the 20 year old sister of a buddy of mine was trying to chat me up and making excessive eye contact while her bf was standing right beside her.

  • Big family garden party. A314 2 drops, 22,5 mcg P96, 1 spray TUTH, 15 mcg P74, 2 sprays IShine. Also a lot of non-family members present. My nephew is a few years older than me. He has an alpha personality and strong social skills. Always is the centre of attention at parties and shit tests everyone heavily. This time: no shit tests at all. He was very attentive and asked how I was doing in life and such. Unusual for him. He seemed calm and at ease around me, looking to be in in my presence. Velcro effects. For instance when I went sitting on the couch away from the party to rest a bit and play with my smartphone, he followed me and started a conversation again. His father - 60 yr old, very alpha and domineering personality - did shit test me, but almost in a beta way. He was challenging me to drink faster/more. Got a lot of looks from mid-30s ladies. My aunt - late 50s - was giving me lovey dovey looks and was asking all about me while ignoring my mom and dad.

  • A314 + P74 at work. I was wearing a khaki summer chino, a white dress shirt and a navy blazer. Random girl that I had seen before but never talked to. ‘Ooohhh you look fancy today.’ eye brow flash

  • P75 2,5 mcg + 3 sprays Summo + 2 sprays IShine at work. Even though there is eNone in Summo, it really goes well with P75. So it must be the P130 - very potent buffer that puts girls at ease. Solid attraction hits allround. Girls sitting next to me - early 20s brunette - was chatting me up. Told me she hated modern society and that we should go back to a primitive culture again. Things would be more ‘fun’ and ‘interesting’. P75?

  • 3 sprays Summo + 22,5 mcg P96 around fallout girl. Very solid date mix. Usually I wear something A314 based around her. With Ammo she has much more attitude and I kinda like it. With A314 I need to lead all the time - sometimes I don’t like leading. With Ammo I get shit tests, but in a fun and playful way that I can steer easily into some role play. Example: she told me ‘do you only do the dishes when I’m around?’ (had been too lazy and busy). Me: ‘yes, because I need someone to dry them’ slaps my ass. Giving me advice / helping me with cleaning; teasing me about my clumsy student like cooking style. With A314 in the mix this never happens. It’s more ‘yes master tell me what to do’. I decide when we stop kissing. I decide when we go to the next bar. I decide what we have for dinner. With A314 on she’s more timid and she talks in a quiet voice. Called her out on this - ‘are you trying to seduce me with your sexy voice?’ - she went all red.

  • Last but not least: as it’s getting warmer now, I notice A314 oil diffusion becomes much better, and it starts hitting harder. A314 is an intense brew and does occasionally tire me out. Especially when I re-apply 1 drop later in the day.

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Short updates:

  • Wore 1 drop A314 + 1 spray MX353 + 25 mcg P96 around fallout girl. We were mostly outside, but the weather was pretty good (~20 degrees Celcius and sunny). Met her at the station. We ksised and she had insane pupils and seemed a bit off balance / awestruck. Couldn’t find her words and she was more silent than usual. No negative hits or unusual things that I could attribute to the mones during the day. More testing needed.

-Added some extra eNone to the above mix (TUTH 2 sprays) and had sex with her. She was ovulating, but nothing unusual to report.

  • Scrubbed eveything off, applied 2,5 mcg P75, 3 sprays TUTH and 30 mcg P83. First we rested a bit drinking some wine, but she couldn’t take her hands off me. She was still super horny. Before going for round 2 I could tell the P83 was already hitting her hard. She started rambling about wild things she did in the past, and told me some kinky personal phantasies that are too specific to share on this forum. All the reports about P83 being good for sexual disinhibition? In my experience: absolutely true. She was insatiable and left me exhausted. Don’t think I ever was this sore after sex haha. After turning off the lights she told me she couldn’t sleep because she was still horny lol. Probably the eNone cloud that was hanging around the room. Woke her up at 6 in the morning for another round and she happily complied.
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Mix:
MX353 2 sprays (neck, plus a little dab under the nose)

Location: the gym, the supermarket

Self-effects: feeling energized, but slightly disoriented for the first 15 minutes after application. After that you get used to it. Strong stuff, you can feel there’s a lot of mones in this mix. So this is the slight drunk feeling people are talking about. P102 has made me disoriented before, and high doses of P83 can be spacy aswell.

I don’t like the smell at all. What is this, FF22? It smells like cheap soap, and rotting plants / compost to me. This is what I imagined phero’s would smell like before I started ordering at Androtics. Luckily it’s not super strong - it settles after ~30 minutes, and becomes manageble. Should be easy to cover up with any floral cologne.

Once I get used to the self-effects I feel very focused and in control of my thoughts. I also feel the urge to socialize, just like with MX297. Physically it mostly relaxes my body - didn’t give me an extra boost in the gym. No alpha posturing, but I did feel some swagger in my walk.

Didn’t talk to many people at the gym, but I did receive some strange looks from 2 dudes. One guy at the dumbell section was staring at me with some glazed look for like 5-8 seconds. Extended DIHL from a guy? The other guys in general seemed to be watching me more than usual. Not like they were walking on eggshells or anything - like would happen with A314 or P75 - but more like they were fascinated by my presence. I’m in shape but not buff or anything - most guys there are bigger than me. So no reasosn to receive impressed looks from guys I would say.

The next day I wore 2 sprays while running some errands, just to see if I could get some hits. Again the drunk feeling hit me, this time even harder than the day before. It’s not an unpleasant feeling though - but more a feeling you wanna experience during the weekend. I did get some looks - one over the shoulder look from a lady in her late 30s, but nothing too out of the ordinairy I feel. No signs of ghosting either.

I went to the public transport card charger, to transfer some money from my bankaccount to the card. Somehow the machine didn’t accept my debit card, I just couldn’t insert it. Frankly this pissed me off. I felt more aggressive than I usually would be in a situation like this. Adrostenone rage?

The check-out girl (early 20s) was friendly and… nervous? She didn’t blush or anything, but she was screwing around with the bread I bought. She scanned it three times clumsily and had to correct the bill three times. I paid with a 10, but her monitor indicated I should receive back 92 EUR. Told her I wouldn’t mind if she gave me 92 back as change. She sheepishly said ‘you would like that, wouldn’t you?’ with a submissive smile.

I walked towards the exit checking my bill just to see if she got it right eventually. Two teenagers standing behind the tobacco counter saw me and said ‘happy Ascension Day sir’. Unusual, nobody actively celebrates that holiday over here. I saw they both had a huge naughty smile on their face so I figured they were trying to get my attention. I anticipated immediately and showed them my bill, asking if it was correct. Bullshitted a bit saying my math skills were bad, so I needed a second opinion. Together they checked my bill and told me it was correct. ‘Ok’ I said, ‘happy Ascension Day to you too ladies’ eye brow flash and I walked away. During the interaction both girls were constantly smiling.

One last thing: FF22 is not strong, but its pretty sticky. Even after showering I could still smell it on me. Or maybe I’m just picking up on a specific putative scent that I don’t like? More testing needed.

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Fuuuuuck me I just posted a long post with short updates, but it took so long to type that my browser wanted me to log-in again… Content got lost in the proceas :frowning:

In short:

  • P75 based mixes makes females qualify themselves to me in a physical way. They start talking about their body, fishing for compliments, like they need approval from the tribal leader… Afraid of getting expelled? :o:D
  • High P75 (5 mcg is high for me) plus Ammo and P74 is too sexy for work. Crazy amount of IOIs. Hairplay, kino, girls accidentally bumping into me… Super hot actress girl (blonde, 22) that sat next to me can’t stop blushing and talking to me. Blatant compliment from one of the other hottest girls in the office (Latina) on how great I look with sunglasses.
  • With P75 in the mix people start talking about edgy stuff themselves. Hot actress gril told me she was once drugged at a party while kissing a guy who was apparently having some MDMA is his mouth (keep in mind she told me this at work!).
  • After the first round sex with fb - went to fresh myself up and applied some P75 under my nose. I do this a lot, great tip for people who want to increase their own sex drive. After I went back into the bedroom again we had aggressive sex. She told me my face looked ‘difficult’ - she meant aggressive. Drank a little water, rested… and I don’t remember the context anymore, but she said ‘unless you put some ‘speed’ in the water’… It was a joke obviously, but it was out of character for her. Why would amphetamines be on her mind? P75 is the strongest and probably the most drug-like mone I have tested so far. Weird shit…
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What’s up my fellow mone addicts? It’s been a while, but I’m back :smiley:

I’ve been wearing mones almost daily, but life got too busy to report here in my journal. I’ll try to keep up with the reports again from now on, but I can’t promise anything. Also I’ve been reading the more interesting threads every other day, but unfortunately there aren’t too many interesting threads anymore. Some of my favorite testers only seem to be reporting in password protected threads - which is a pity.

For those of you who have been following my journal, I’m still seeing my fallout girl - twice a week usually. She’s got it bad for me - lately she’s been asking questions like ‘what do I call you if I’m talking about you to my friends?’ - and making ‘jokes’ about her introducing me to her parents. If those aren’t big signs of fallout I don’t what are. She’s waiting for me to ask her the question… or just to confirm that she’s my girlfriend now. I really like her, but I’m still a bit hesitant for a longterm commitment. Why? Never had any commitment issues before… She has these little insecurities that bother me… I don’t know if I want to deal with them… AND… sometimes she reminds me a bit too much about my mother :open_mouth: Isn’t that too typical? Don’t know if I want to be one of those guys…

Anyway, in the meanwhile I like where things are between us. Our dates are great and there’s a lot of spontaneity. Probably some of the best dates I’ve been on in my life so far… And the sex is incredible by the way. ONS sex is so mediocre compared to this. I’ve done some extensive TUTH testing - and oh boy does this juice work. 2 sprays is all I need to get her motor running. It immediately sends the message. Sometimes I don’t wear any eNone during the day. But once we get back to the apartment and I apply a spray or 2… bang she knows it’s on. It’s almost like a conditioned response to the smell of TUTH - really funny :smiley:

Sometimes I go out with a full P51Mustang inspired mix - including P74, P83, P96 and some TUTH. This mix is simply gold - works every time, but it’s really intense for my own neurotransmitters as well. If I wear this mix a lot around her for several days, I end up feeling very drained and tired. Sometimes I feel so numb that I start slurring my words a bit… not good. Guess I’m overstimulating my nervous system sometimes.. So depending on her cycle and my own mood I sometimes leave out some putatives or eNone - but A314 is always in there. Go easy on the mones people.. Most of the times, less is more.

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Mix:
A314 - 1 drop, 1 spray (b-version)
P74 - 15 mcg
P96 - 22,5 mcg

Location: date with fallout girl, inside mostly

So why both spray and oil A314? Let me explain.

I’ve worn most of the products in my collection around fallout girl, and I have a good baseline for how she respond to all the products. I like wearing A314 around her. The oil is more for slow-burning attraction, good for building up fallout over a long period. I’ve been wearing it consistently around her as a base for various mixes. It really calms her down as well. She’s been under a lot of stress lately, and I can really see the difference when I don’t wear it. For duration purposes its also very handy.

Spray has much faster and stronger impact, it simply sweepes her off her feet. Strong attraction effects, strong respect - you are in charge/please-tell-me-what-to-do effects. Zero shit test. Sometimes she feels unworthy if I act a bit cocky with the spray on. When I shit test her or tease her a bit, she can become very insecure. It’s easy to break her confidence with this on. If you’re not too oberservant or socially skilled: be careful. You should know what you’re doing; if not you’ll end up hurting her feelings.

So the date.. I took her to an exhibition that I genuinely wanted to see myself. She didn’t know anything about the exhibition, but ended up being really open minded and interested. One of the things I like very much about this girl. The museum has a fantastic atrium where the lounge bar is located, with a patio and a view on the harbor plus skyline of a well-known European city (guess which one? :wink: ). Ofcourse we had some drinks, and bonded more over conversation.

After that we watched a crazy gory 80s scifi-horror movie (the exhibition was about the director). Most girls would not dig this stuff, but she loved it. Keep in mind this girl is the nerdy hipster type that likes weird stuff. She also told me she is a sapiophile - meaning she’s attracted to intelligent people. Displayed massive value by taking her to this awesome place and movie.

5 hours after application. Meanwhile it was raining a bit outside and we decided to get some dinner together. Italian food and some wine. She wanted to pick up the check. No objection from my side. It was already getting late but the vibe was still very nice and comfy/lovey dovey (P96). We didn’t want to go home, so I decided to take her to a nice bar in the neigherhood (I did my research). We were sitting on the couch, kissing, having reflective conversation about all sorts of deep stuff (no IH!). When the moment felt right, I decided to ask her if she wanted to be my girlfriend and she said yes. She got watery eyes while smiling, and told me she had been waiting for me to ask for a while :slight_smile:

Asked her why she didn’t ask me to be her bf… She told she was ‘not that moderin’ hahaha. Guess we men will always be doomed to take the lead and hence put ourselves in vulnerable positions.

Sooo… no big prowling mixes from me now for a while. But don’t wory, I will keep testing mones. This is just too much fun.

All in all a big win for A314 fallout mixes I’d say. For all the newbies: read up on the P51Mustang’s IBF mix in his journal and Commander Kotov’s nuclear fallout thread. Should be enough inspiration.

Good night!

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Short updates:

  • It is broadly known that P75 is an excellent eNone buffer. Couple days ago I had some Ammo residu on me when I was on my way to my gf. I realised there was a big chance she was having her period, or at least PMSing big time, so too much eNone was a no no. I only had P75 and P74 at hand, so I applied 2,5 mcg and 22,5 mcg respectively. Who would have guessed it, but it was actually a very good PMS/period mix. P75 is grounding, masculine, ‘I’ll take care of you’. But also ‘don’t argue with me’ or ‘don’t give me shit’. Solo it would’ve probably been too raw for the situation - haven’t worn much P75 before around my gf - but P74 provided the needed social steering. This mix made her very cuddly and talkative, with little negatives. No complaining or self-pity.

  • A314 1 drop + 15 mcg P74 at work. Dress code is casual at my work, but I like to rock a navy blazer and a nice button down shirt. All in all nothing too special. Within 5 minutes of my arrival, my supervisor (male, early 30s) complimented me on the way I looked. Another random beta guy also complimented me and was throwing respect hits in my direction later. I love the way P74 makes A314 much more approachable. Why is IH so expensive?

  • Same A314 + P74 mix. Meeting with a new client together with my project manager and a few younger collegues. Pm was chairing the meeting. The client (male, late 30s, smooth sales type) mostly looked at me while talking and answering questions. My pm (female, mid 30s) had a bit insecure body language and was constantly looking at me in an approval seeking way and asking me if I had anything to add to the discussion.

  • Ammo 1 spray, 2,5 mcg P75 and P74 15 mcg. This is a classic boosted Ammo mix that I like to wear when I go out. Optionally I up the Ammo along the night when there is a lot of sensory competition. Location: I was gonna hang out with my new gf and some of my friends for the first time. I usually wear something A314 based around the gf, but I don’t like A314 around friends - makes them too distant. So I was pondering a bit… P75 around friends can scare away my male friends too. Results were decent. Started off the night with some nice craft beers with the gf alone. I could tell she liked the mix. I was in a high energy mood. She had trouble looking me in the eye, but was feeling me up and down all the time. First we sat across tables from each other - I was sitting on a couch - but within minutes she joined me on the couch and curled up under my arm. A girl at the bar that I didn’t recognize at all said ‘Hi Himeros, long time no see!’… Really didn’t known this chick…But social proof anyway. P75 gets you noticed huh? Something else I discovered about P75 earlier happened again while conversing with gf… P75 can disinhibit people verbally and make them talk about edgy stuff. And with edgy I mean stuff that is against the law, not sexual in nature. Won’t share the details. Added another spray Ammo from a togo and 7,5 mcg P74 when we joined my friends. Good results. Respect and buddy vibe at the same time. Nicely balanced. A friend of mine has a new gf as well since 2 months. She’s a self-proclaimed ‘street girl’ - has some attitude. Nice respect hits from her, and she was very talkative. Don’t known her like this, but can’t say for sure if it was phero induced. Think she likes the masculine Ammo + P75 base, because she was constantly seeking my attention. Not necessarily in flirty way.

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BAM! I just placed my first order in 4 months.

Big bottles of P74 and TAC (:smiley:) coming my way. Re-upped some A314 sprays as I still have plenty of oil. Also ordered some IH to-go’s to play with as I have a specific purpose in mind. Too bad a big bottle is so damn expensive…

New to my arsenal: Instant Gentleman and P86!

Total damage: shipping costs only.