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Field Reports & Anecdotal Experience Men's Journals
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Just to collect all my posts here, for my own convenience:

Mix: A314/b 1 spray, MX353 1 spray

Location: low-energy beer bar

I knew this was a risky mix for the environment, but I wanted to experiment anyway.

Met up with some friends at the beach to watch a fireworks show. ~9 hours earlier I applied a simple mix of IShine and IH, so perhaps some residu, but not a lot. My new gf joined too. At the beach it was windy and cold. Everyone was wearing jackets, so I doubt mones had a lot of influence there. Anyway as a baseline: my gf’s mood was pretty good. A bit tired after a long day at work, but happy to see me. Lots of hugs, lots of talking about her day while we were enjoying the fireworks.

After the fireworks we decided to grab some drinks. I knew this nice bar in town, where they serve rare craft beers, so I convinced my group of friends to go there. Upon arrival, I immediately went to toilet and applied 1 sprays A314/b and 1 spray MX353, both to the neck area. Went back to my friends (1 couple, 1 gay friend and my gf) and everybody was happy with the bar and the beer selection. People throwing respect hits in my direction for leading them to this awesome place. Good social proof.

However… my gf - who was sitting on my left hand side - gradually evolved in a grumpy biaaaatch. When I got back from the toilet and grabbed my seat, she kissed me and gave me a lovey dovey look. After this her body language closed, and she didn’t display any affection anymore. She was very empathic and having good conversations with my gay friend and the other girl, but didn’t pay any attention anymore to me. I was just talking about beer with my other (heterosexual) buddy and having a good time. She gave me a slightly annoyed look. And at some point she even openly disrespected me when I joined a discussion she was having. All in all not too big a deal, but preferebly I want to prevent this next time.

The next day everything was fine. She was lovey dovey again (wearing A314 + P74). At some point I jokishly asked her why she was so irritable the previous night. She told me she was a bit tired, but also that she thought I was being a bully towards my friends. I didn’t bully any of them… it was pure perception from her side. My guess is MX353 played a role (eNone OD?), or maybe A314 + MX353 was just too aggressive and high status for the environment.

Effects on my buddy and his gf were good. Effects from gf and my gay friend were not too good…

Conclusion: not a good mix for the environment.

Mix:
TUTH - 3 sprays (neck/chest area)
TAC - 15 mcg (neck and top of my hands)

You know how they say do NOT wear eNone when a girl is on her period? I believe this is sound advice, but next story proves it is possible with some TAC in the mix.

So… I wasn’t even aware my gf was having her period. I wore 1 sprays Instant Gentleman during the day, nothing more. Her mood was good, and according to my own calculations, shark week would be next week. Once we get back to the appartment ~6 hours after applying the IG , I decide to heat things up a bit, and apply a hefty dose of eNone and TAC . I was in a mood to drive her crazy.

Escalating goes smoothly, no typical eNone OD reactions whatsoever. Passionate kissing, first base, second base… and… last minute resistance when I try to take off her pants. She tells me she can’t have sex because she’s having her period. I tell her it’s not a big deal and prepare myself to just kiss and cuddle. Couple minutes later she asks if I ever had sex with a girl on her period - she’s worried it will be ‘messy’. Tells me she’s really in the mood, but she doesn’t want to freak me out. I assure her it’s nothing I haven’t seen before. She tells me she never had sex while being on her period with anyone before, but she wants to try it with me. A lot of trust and affection was present, and my guess is TAC played a big role here. She grabs a few towels and we end up having a really sensual session (and yes I’m sure she was on her period). A great experience.

Now what do I learn from this?

1 - reactions to mones vary! Test it for yourself, it’s really the only way to know what works for you in different situations. You can learn a lot from screwing up your mix.

2- TAC is an excellent eNone buffer. It provides comfort, so much comfort at a 2:1 ratio with eNone that sex during shark week is possible. It’s physically playful, buffers the eNone negatives, while the punch of the eNone still hits her.

Happy I just bought a big bottle of TAC :smiley:

I recently met ‘the parents’ while wearing 2 drops of A314 (jawline and wirsts), 2 sprays IH to my upper hands, and 15 mcg P74 (neck).

Results were decent, could have been better. I think I made a good, solid and reliable impression on them. Both parents showed me respect, maybe a little bit too much respect. They were kind of hesitant to ask me questions, and most of the conversation was directed towards their daughter (they don’t see her that often, so maybe that’s an extra factor at play here).

The father made a couple of jokes, and winked in my direction, as if he was saying ‘you know what I mean’ - that was nice.

Next time I’ll roll with only 1 drop of A314 and maybe add more socials to open them up a bit.

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Nice journal! Learned a few mixes from you :smiley:
Have you tried IG, p75,p83 combo?

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Thanks man!

Haven’t tried that combo yet. I’ve just recently started testing with IG. I have paired it with 2,5 mcg P75, and that was not a good combo for me at the office. Think the P75 steers the eRone in IG into dark territory. Resulted in a lot of grumpiness on my side (bad self-effects) and standoffish / intimidated behavior from the people around me. Adding P83 would possibly make it worse. Usually IG is very approachable and charismatic, but this time the P75 totally dominated the IG.

But only one way to find out… I’ll have to test this combo more often to check if the results I get are consistent. Several senior members report that IG + P75 is a good combo around girls with a low eNone tolerance.

Will probably write down an extensive IG report in 1-2 weeks.

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Can’t wait to see your report :smiley:

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P86 explorations

Mix:
P86 37,5 mcg

Location: home + grocery shopping

First tests with this putative. I applied 3 sprays at 12,5 mcg each from a to-go, all to my neck.

Self-effects hit me within 10 minutes. I get light, feel good vibes. Start to feel a little warm. My mood improves and I start smiling without a reason while I’m listening to some music behind my desk. I start drumming along to the songs, and making dance moves in my chair. Definitely get a non-serious vibe, kind of in the mood to party. Similarities with IShine, but less energizing, and a less ‘centered’ feeling. Eyes feel dry.

~30 min in I’m on my way to the local mall to run some errands. On my bike I feel a little drunk. It’s hard to focus. My peripheral view for some reason seems much larger. Visually it’s hard to focus on one thing. A lot of sensory input. I’m whistling, and softly singing a song. I notice my own voice sounds very weak, as if it’s very distant. I see two kids playing outside, making Dragonball Z moves. I feel drawn to them, like I want to join them.

In the supermarket I’m extremely indecisive on what to buy for dinner. Nothing like me. I find myself spending ages looking at shit that I don’t even need or want to buy. I get a lot of I eye-contact from men. I really seem to grab their attention. I feel spacey, unconcentrated, out of my head. Yet it’s an enjoyable feeling. Don’t think this is very suitable for work, or when you need to get things done. Little to no looks from females.

A middle aged couple is arguing about their TomTom. The man is raising his voice and the women has teary eyes. I immediately subconciouisly choose the side of the woman, ‘what a jerk’ I think.

Back at home I still have the drunk feeling. I cut my finger while chopping vegetables. It was with the big knife and luckily I hit the fingernail frist, so no serious damage. Dangerous stuff. I write something down on my to-do list. Later I notice my handwriting looks like shit. Fine motor skills are not under control with P86 at this dose.

After 4 hours effects seem to have worn off.

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P86 explorations (continued)

Mix:
P86 25 mcg

Location: the office

Applied 25 mcg to the neck, while waiting for the elevator. When I arrived at my desk I felt nervous and unstable. The drunk feeling was there again. The first hour was very unproductive. I found it hard to concentrate. Especially multi-tasking was impossible. Had to use all my energy while making a phone call, to understand what the woman on the other end of the line was saying.

Girl next to me wanted to ask me a question, so she asked if I was busy. Told her ‘yes’ and immediately corrected myself, because I meant to say ‘no’. She laughed. Later she asked me a question again, and I had to ask her to repeat the question. It was like she caught me off guard, like it was impossible to listen+talk to her and work in my spreadsheet at the same time. Had restless legs. Felt overstimulated in terms of audio, and hard to find the right words when I was talking to people. Much like a previous experience with P102 at work.

People around me reacted positively. Girl next to me (mid 20s, brunette) was giving me smiles all the time, and being very helpful - like she wanted to take care of me. Do you need anything? Coffee/ tea? I’m going to person XX - do I need to deliver a message? She even offered to send my resume to a recruiter she knew at a local bank. She also shared some personal stuff. She’s working 4 part-time jobs, so she’s having a hard time. Half-way the shift she almost bursted out in tears because someone was rude to her on the phone. Minutes later she was all smiles again and trying to chat me up in a playful way. Does P86 intensify emotions in some way?

~1,5 hours later the drunk feeling was managable, so it was easier to remain concentrated.

After 4 hours I applied another 12,5 mcg. Girl next to me (mid 20s, blonde) was very playful and chatty. She wanted to play hangman with me to kill some time. She also asked me some personal questions, and her body language / facial expressions looked like she was worried about me.

Makes me think… Does P86 give off a youthful / childish / playful vibe? Girls seem very open and protective in some way. Is this a pheromone that is excreted by babies?

When I get home I’m tired and need to take a nap. I fall asleep instantly and wake up 2 hours later.

Next day:

Mix:
P86 12,5 mcg

Location: the office

Drunk feeling very light. Easy to concentrate. This dose is managable at work. Or maybe I’m just getting used to the selfies.

After 2 hours I add 1 spray of Ammo, just to see what it does to P86.

Blonde mid 20s girl sitting next to me was giving a lot of smiles, and being chatty. P86 is definitely approachable and fun. It puts people in a good mood. No one has been rude to me so far with this on.

Male colleague was very friendly as well. Today I joined a project that he has been working on for a couple of weeks. Without me asking he came to my desk to give me some tips, while being very attentative and respectful. Nobody asked him to do this. Nice. This never happens when I wear A314.

So far it’s pretty hard to figure out P86! One thing I can say: I don’t really like the self-effects at work. Should test this molecule in more relaxed environments.

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Short updates:

  • Again with P75 on the high end for me (5 mcg plus 15 mcg P74 and 1 spray Ammo) a girl starts talking about her using lauging gas during the weekend with her friend, just for ehh… the laughs :o This has got to be the fifth or sixth time people start talking about casual drugs use while I’m wearing P75. I really can’t see it as an isolated observation anymore. P75 gives people the balls to talk about edgy stuff like this. Also I forgot how awesome P75 is at this level. Amazing selfies and hypnotic attraction and qualification from the ladies. I was feeling like shit for a couple of days because of some personal stuff, but P75 picked me up and really made my day. With P74 in the mix to take the edge off and a spritz eNone from Ammo it’s a great prowling mix.

  • Residue IG 1 spray. Topped up a fallout mix with A314 1 spray, TUTH 1 spray, IH 2 sprays and P74 15 mcg. Was meeting my girl at her place. I crashed hard on this mix. A314 and P74 always make me tired, and I think the -nols in IH drain my energy levels as well. Gf was in a bad mood when I arrived, and IH made her complain and complain and complain and worry and worry and worry some more. She’s in a lot of stress because she’s moving to het new house - lots to do still - but this mix made her verbalise everything that was on her mind. She wasn’t rude towards me or anything, but she just unloaded all her stressy inner thoughts on me - which obviously made her not much fun to be around. To make it worse it was hot as hell in her appartment, and I had a nasty headache from neurotransmitter overstimulation, up to a point that I started to feel nauseous. Pain killer didn’t help. Sleep did. Gf was complaining about a headache as well. I wonder if my mix had anything to do with that.

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Instant Gentleman review

I’ve been running with IG for about 2 months now I think. I’ve been wearing quite a lot, 2/3 of the bottle left. First I tested it solo for a week. I made notes with key-words. I’ll try to summarize here.

First the self-effects are very calming to me. I feel relaxed and carefree. It definitely has an eRone feeling, but it’s very light compared to A314. Makes me wonder if there is P130 in there, making high eRone (15 mcg mones per spray in this one!) possible. From Summer Ammo I get more or less the same self-effects. I also feel very sociable / approachable with IG, again a contrast with A314. IG makes me extroverted, I feel very content and pleased with myself, so there is no social anxiety. There is no competitiveness. There is no worrying about shit tests from girls or jokes from guys. There is no cocky feeling. I can definitely see why some people described IG as prince charming. I feel extroverted, I feel nice, I feel suave. I feel like being a good host, or yes… a gentleman. The drawback is, I can also definitely see why people would call this a ‘nice guy’ product.

Rest of the self-effects: it’s not energzing. It’s mildly sedating as with all eRone products, but not exhausting like A314 can be sometimes. Little alpha posturing. Effects feel quite natural. All this from 1-2 sprays by the way. Very economical product.

Reactions I get from the people around me are universally positve. Almost like IG is the MX297 for low energy / polite environments (mostly tested this at the office). Guys treat me with respect, but unlike as with A314 it’s no hard compliance. No respect induced by fear or power. The other alpha males will think they are still above you in status, because IG has a non-threatening feel to it. Both alpha and beta guys think you’re cool. Not in a jockish P75 way, but cool as in ‘this guy has his shit together, and good things going for himself’. IG definitely gives you a status boost. Girls are very friendly and open. They have no trouble initiating conversation, and seem to enjoy talking to you. No nervousness, no vasodilation on cheeks or upper chest, not a lot of hair-flipping. I do get a lot of smiles. I do get teasing. I do get high fives. Girls think you’re cute and solid. Definitely LTR material. No raw attraction.

Additions:

  • P74 is not necessary. IG is approachable and charismatic enough. Maybe there already is some P74 in IG I don’t know. More P74 would be a ticket to the friendzone.
  • P75 is tricky. Sometimes it’s wonderful, especially after a long day when you’ve been wearing IG for 4+ hours already. Nice attraction kick . Other times it steers the eRone into serious / dark territory, and totally wrecks the prince charming and approachable effects. Pissed off feeling myself, people give me intimidated DIHLs. Apologizing for standing in my way. Definitely no fun.
  • Ammo - great! This is an underrated combo on the forum. All combo’s seem to work very well. 2 sprays IG, 1 spray Ammo is work safe and very attractive. Lots of hairflips, red faces, nervousness in all the good ways from girls. 1 sprays IG and 2 sprays Ammo is more for going out. IG adds some substance to Ammo. You become a charismatic solid guy with sexappeal.
  • A314 - haven’t tested it much, but feels like an eRone overdose to me. I feel castrated and low-energy. Prefer both products solo. IG is definitely not a little brother of A314, like some people say. Totally different products in my opinion.
  • P96 - ok but doesn’t add much. I see P96 as a comfortbuilder around intense mixes including A314 and TUTH. With IG there already is enough comfort.

More combo’s to be tested. Really curious about pairing it with MX353 but haven’t found the right opportunity yet.

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Have you tried MX297 with P75? :slight_smile:

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Based on the posts, you only used your p102 once, and the only feedback I’ve read is that it made you feel disoriented. Are there other instances that you used p102 and you got other effects (self and to others) ?

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Haven’t tested it much, as I can’t stand the self-effects. I can not afford to feel unfocused at work, I need to be on top of my game. For the same reason I don’t test P86 at work anymore. I think I still have some P102 lying around. Let’s see if I find the right opportunity to do a couple more runs with it.

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Short updates:

  • A314 1 drop + 15 mcg P74. Hadn’t worn A314 oil in a long time. God I love this juice… All the classic A314 effects were present again, in a very positive and non-overbearing way (like can happen with the spray - it’s too intense sometimes). Ofcourse the P74 rounded the A314 out nicely as well. Had an intake for a new project - meeting with 3 female colleagues and 3 male colleagues. Supervisor (female mid 30s) did the explaining, she was at the head of the table. I positioned myself next to her, on the side of the boardroom table. I sat in my chair, alpha posturing, feeling extremely confident like I was in charge of the meeting without actually saying much. Asked a couple of critical questions… that’s all. Now on to the hits: Girl 1 sitting next to me is flushed and constantly flipping her hair. Girl 2 on the other end of the table is eyeing me in an unsubtle way and giving me smiles and eye-brow flashes. She seemed really in awe. Female supervisor super respectful. At one point the supervisor called me ‘future CEO material’. I could make her insecure with my body language, just by smiling while she was doing her presentation. She constantly asked me to give my opinion - not with the rest of the peeps in there. After the meeting all the guys came and asked me for advice ALL the time. Hey Himeros, how would you do this and that? Am I working the correct way when I do so and so? All these guys are my age by the way, mid 20s. Gril 1 later sits next to me when we’re working on the project. ‘Jeez you look so nice and smart today. Going anywhere after work?’. At the feedback session, Girl 2 sits next to me. Flushed, hairflipping, sideways glances, seductive smiles, playful comments in my direction. Claiming me as her buddy to work with on the feedback assignment. I’ve seen this ‘claiming effect’ several times with A314 oil

  • Weekend at gf’s place. I’m tired. I apply 10 mcg TAC solo after showering and lie in her bed, ready to doze off into dreamland. Gf is lying next to me. As I’m almost falling asleep she starts initiating sex. She rarely ever does this, 95% of the time it’s me initiating sex. She’s in charge, on top of me, doing all the work. She climaxes once. When I later take charge she doesn’t want missionary position, but she insists on doggy, and instructs me to firmly grab her love handles. Seems like TAC triggered some sexual assertiveness in her. Horny and comfortable enough to take the lead.

  • Next weekend at gf’s place. Epic fail with P75 5 mcg, TUTH 2,5 mcg, P83 40 mcg, 10 mcg TAC to hands. I wanted to make a supreme masculine impression, so she would be all over me. The opposite happened. This mix was like a hand grenade… Anything but subtle. It made the both of us super irritable. I felt strong hulk rage, and was crazy horny. We baked a cake together. Every time she gave me well meant advice on small things, like how to handle and butter up the cake form, I saw it as criticism and I wouldn’t have any of it. I simply didn’t accept it, and told her to let me do it my way. I was definitely no fun that night. Teasing her all the time. She didn’t get angry with me (P75), but from a submissive position told me I was being a bully. Almost begging me to stop at one point. Took a shower to srub off the mix, but both our moods were ruined too much already. No sex that night. Next morning very average sex. I finsihed way too early.

  • P96 22,5 mcg solo. I’ve been wearing too many mones the last few days, and I’m having a phero break so my neurotransmitters can have some rest. Gf during the day texts me that she’s coming by tonight for a surprise visit. I’m tired after a long day and just want to create a pleasant atmosphere, gf has been under a lot of stress lately too. I look at my stash and I can’t resist, so I put on P96 solo. The vibe is very mellow, lots of non-verbal communication. Smiles, lovey-dovey eye contact. We watch some series together. 2 hours in the vibe gets really playful and silly with me joking, her laughing a lot. Wrestling on the bed, but there is nothing sexual about it. I really feel in synch with her, we’re having a great time laughing together. Her nipples are hard, so I escalate further and take off her clothes. No resistence. While having sex I notice she’s pretty dry and not really feeling it… When I ask her what’s up, she tells me it’s not feeling pleasant. First time I ever had to stop in the middle of having sex with her. I back down and she all of a sudden is really apologetic and slightly emotional. I tell her it’s nothing. Safe to say P96 solo makes for good vibes but doesn’t really get her motor running. Or maybe PMS week on the way? In retrospect, I wasn’t super horny to begin with either, but because I really felt in synch with her I wanted to connect further through sex. Mission failed. P96 needs some eNone or eRone to make it really shine.

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I get the same thing w/ P96. Good for cuddle romantic time, not so good for sexy time. Does better when dilluting it and adding very low amount of eNone (ng level). Keep it nice and light.

I get bad results w/ P83 combos like that - wife gets very critical - endlessly - and I won’t have it. Works good w/ other women but bad w/ the the significant other. I’ve noticed that sometimes a friend’s wife will get that way w/ her husband when I wear it around them, but she’ll be flirty with me. Wash and then P75 solo seems to set it straight and wife stops getting on my case.

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Boys, i get this same way with P96. great for cuddling, romance, gooby eyes. i haven’t found it to be sexlax. but 10 mcg and i’m just happy to be in a cuddle puddle somewhere warm, males, females, canines, felines, martians, old, young…

watkins i like your enone recommendation. reps to all.

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note to self… give to enemies…

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Short updates:

  • Continued observations with IG solo: I’m pretty sure there is something in IG that makes people talk and talk a lot to me. I get no mindless jabber like with alphanol. What I do get is 1) people opening up to me and trusting me with personal stories without the negatives of going ‘too deep’ like with IH solo, and 2) playful conversations, bantering all afternoon with female colleagues without being very productive. With alphanol (IO) it gets silly, with IG it remains all very pleasant / quality conversation. I’m guessing there’s a little P74 in this mix.

  • TAC, any dose. When I don’t wash it off it regularly causes weird, lively dreams that I can easily remember after waking up. I usually don’t remember my dreams. My gf has commented on having had weird dreams as well after a night with TAC.

  • P75 2,5 mcg + P74 15 mcg. Coach meeting at work, with a pretty hot female supervisor (early 30s) from the Indian subcontinent. I didn’t know I had this session, they surprised me - so I put on the mones last minure. It was my pherobreak. She told me I was ‘quite stubborn and dominant, but that’s what I like about you. I’m that way as well. This company needs people like that’. This is true. She is one of those dominant career bitches. No education, but good looks. Rest of the sessions she continues to put me on a pedestral, and tells me I should leverage those qualities, keep at it and make sure to learn a lot. She sees a bright future for me. She did mention some negative feedback, points I could improve etc, but always followed by more positives.

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Interesting. Treehugger was just saying he was getting some pretty crazy TAC dreams. Nightmares, actually, in his case.

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Sorry, I got mixed up. He was talking about MX297, not TAC. But now that makes me wonder if there is any TAC in MX297.

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Treehugger also posted about weird dreams with TAC, over here:

Actually multiple reputable users posted about vivid dreams with TAC in the passed (Wyatt, mobocaster), so it’s not an isolated observation.

In retrospect I’ve been having these dreams since I started using TAC extensively in the bedroom, but I never made the connection with phero’s. Maybe also due to some build-up in my bedsheets, as TAC is one of the few mones I don’t wash off before bedtime.

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Ah. That makes a lot of sense. Now I don’t feel like a crazy person for confusing TAC with MX297!

I’m curious to know if the mechanism by which TAC causes relaxation and orgasm intensity is also the mechanism that affects dreams! Time to brush up on brain regions again!