Homebrew Mixes?

[Dancing_Joker]

@FutureKill

I know I am not the only one who makes his own phero-mixes using putatives and experimones. Naturally, it is sometimes necessary to change the concentrations of my, “base solutions,” so that that final product is of another given concentration.

So, herein lies my dilemma: When I am diluting solutions in order to change their concentrations, should I use EtOH, DPG or both? If both, then what kind of ratios?

I am aware that even AD’s Instant line contain some DPG, for the desired diffusion effect. So, bearing in mind that my concoctions will eventually end up in a ToGo bottle, how much DPG should I use in my dilutions?

To put it another way: Imagine that I am mixing EST 1mg/ml (from LoveScent, so I assume its EtOH only) with Dilutant X. If this, “X,” is a mixture of EtOH and DPG, precisely how much of each is contained in the solution?

I hope that makes sense, I really appreciate anyone with any feedback. Thanks

I posted a discussion about mixing concentrations a while ago:

When Mixing Your Pheromones

I think the confusion here is the type of mixes being discussed. As the first and following posts of this thread indicate, the topic in question is mixing components together in a bottle and juggling the concentrations and amounts needed to produce a mix with a specific yield of each component per spray. I believe what you’re commenting about is more towards applying individual components separately by either spray, dab, or drop from a bottle. If I were to try to apply a drop of 5000 mcg/ml …

You can use either EtOH or DPG as a dilutent depending on the duration of effects that you’re looking for. Using more EtOH results in a faster diffusing mix that has more immediate effects, whereas using more DPG results in a slower diffusing mix that has effects accumulate over time. You can adjust the ratio of EtOH to DPG to adapt your mixes to the desired effectiveness rate, and both components are good for use in a to-go bottle.

For the mixing calculation, let’s assume the following:
E = concentration of EtoH in a component
D = concentration of DPG in a component
E_EST = concentration of EtOH in EST at 1 mg/ml
E_X = concentration of EtOH in Dilutent X
D_EST = concentration of DPG in EST at 1 mg/ml
D_X = concentration of DPG in Dilutent X
E_Mix = concentration of EtOH in a mix
D_Mix = concentration of DPG in a mix
Conc_EST = concentration of EST in a mix (%)
Conc_X = concentration of Dilutent X in a mix (%)

To calculate the E% and D% in a combined mix, use the following formula:

E_Mix = Conc_EST E_EST ] + Conc_X E_X ]
D_Mix = Conc_EST D_EST ] + Conc_X D_X ]

For EST at 100% EtOH, E_EST = 100%, D_EST = 0%
For Dilutent X, E_X = A%, D_X = 100-A%

E_Mix = Conc_EST 100% ] + Conc_X A% ]
D_Mix = Conc_EST 0% ] + Conc_X 100-A% ]

For example, with EST in 100% EtOH, let’s say that A = 50%. In a 50% EST / 50% X mix, this gives us:
E_Mix = 50% * 100% ] + [50% * 50% ] = 50% ] + 25% ] = 75% EtOH
D_Mix = [50% 0% ] + 50% (100-50)% ] = 0% ] + 25%] = 25% DPG

Have fun