Aha, a psychotherapist student…maybe today was his first day of class.
You are welcome, but no he did not! This was his exact quote:
Had he claimed to be a student, I would have cut him some slack and assumed he was either hung over or drugged out in every class!
Copycat, I will come to anybodies defense, so long as they are ANY member who has made positive contributions to the forum, Like it or not, I see you and the other members as family, and nobody messes with those I care about! Just ask Tisha, and I’m sure she’ll tell you just how much you all mean to me.
And Shell, he did say he is a studied psychotherapist, although he did not state he is a good one!
I’m going to guess that he works in a prison and his job is to rehabilitate drug offenders. That would explain his complete lack of concern of how what he says affects others, as well as the 98% recidivism rate of rehabilitated drug offenders.
Obviously the last paragraph is not my true beliefs, but if this guy is really in the mental health field and not some punk 15 year old kid, then I would be very interested in seeing statistics on the number of people under his treatment that have committed suicide.
Actually schell most doctors dont know Alpha Androstenol from Androstenone and wouldnt have a clue what they do. Most of them wouldnt believe they do anything pheromonaly. Pheromones are still a science that is being explored and is highy debated in the scientific community. There are exceptions to the rule such as with yourself your open minded and interested in the subject and exploring it but it takes years of actual study and use of the molecules to really understand what each can do and why they do it as well as how they interact with other molecules. In the next 50 years we will see amazing advances in this technology.
I dont know if he is truely a psychotherapist or not. I am taking his word for it. But I did find his response hurtful and offensive.
Copycat your response to him just proved us all right, Your beauty shines threw and we dont need to see it to know its there. 
Tisha
It is definitely a debatable topic when it comes to humans and how we receive pheromones…but I think more and more medical professionals are coming on board with the idea that humans do give off and receive pheromones.
The science is growing and the facts are there for other species of life. It will be amazing to see how much knowledge we gain in the next 50 years and exciting too.
Well after all of you found it so great to insult me as a clueless student and all this BS of my being a unsusessfull prison therapist (THAT are real offensive INSULTS, but what to expect from such crazy PCzealots) , i will now respond to this kindergarten though i thought this crazy accusations of you aint worth it at all and would be too offtopic.
as some other poster (at least ONE who can think straight, surely a european) on page 2 intelligently pointed out too: i was not offensive at all. and PC shit doesnt help anyone. kudos to this one intelligent person with a real unclouded mind.
And just for your info:
i am practising PT since 18 years, and i am now only accepting private patients due to my sucessful work since 10 years.(who pay much more than state insured ppl. I get about 315$ an hour, what about YOUR wage??)
And i can assure you i earn GOOD money because i HAD NOT ONE patient suicide at all.
And the ones who have really no clue are those PC accusers hitting on my job qualities. But let me explain this:
At first i am so sucessfull because a lot of men and women come to me for help and in 80% of the cases the main problem of those ppl is the fact, they have no/false knowledge about human behaviourals and how to get along with them and cope with them.
They are often brainwashed with pc things from TV and media and have distorted view of reality.
And exactly this is the key to have success AT ALL!
Only if you understand the human mentality you can solve the problem at all. So i explain them the straight hard facts (something noone has done to them in their life before..)
And all my patients say this every time “thank you, you are he first to tell me the REAL truth and not the soft lies. You really opened my eyes and now i finally understand the menatlity,situation and reactions of other ppl towards me. Now i can correct my views according to those facts…”
And my success rate was here 75% last year, which is top notch in this hard field->thus my calendar is already booked till end of 2009, no new patients accepted.
But ONE lesson i learned here very well. the infamous american PC which comes like a stampede with lies and misintepretations.
I had heard here in europe a lot of this pc-BS from family members who lived for a while in USA, but alway thought it was a overexaggerated myth.
I couldnt believe that grown up ppl prefer to hear softwashened lies instead facts.
Well you proved me very wrong! and i am really happy that i live not in such a place of crazy bigotry.
and for those who kept a clear mind: Have a nice day!
In your first post here, you stated you were 25 years old. You must have started your fabulous career at a very young age - so gifted! 
I like to give more credence to what people do than what they say about themselves. We’ve heard a boatload of bragging (including a lot of nationalist hoo-haa) from you and seen some crude unsophisticated behavior. Guess which one speaks louder?
thx for pointing to my typo it is 45 actually. with 25 i wouldnt use any phero at all 
at this long time ago time women were chasing after me lol
and as you are so thoroughly Mrs Sherlock Holmes u would have noticed the typo when you read my first phero report. i doubt a 25y old has such family meetings where the aunt is celebrating 50y of marriage lol
and its typical for you to call my neutral statement of facts “bragging” whereas the lies and insults the others told about me are “okay” huh? what kind of morale… but lets stay at topic so discussion finished.
TrantorX, WTF are you talking about? Political Correctness is associated with identity politics. It’s roots trace back to marxist ideology and the old Soviet term “party line”. How does that relate to encouraging someone to be the best person they can? Yes, it’s as American as German Chocolate Cake to offer a helping hand to a neighbor who asks for it. Yes, we occasionally get carried away with our good intentions and make a mess. Rest assured though, our screw-ups come straight from our hearts. It occurs to me that Das Kapital and The Communist Manifesto were the progenitors of the Soviet “party line”. That sorta makes PC a German product don’t it?
I saw nothing unusual in a 25-year-old having older relatives in his extended family. In fact, your general air of entitlement and alienation, the complaints you made about family gatherings and your amazement at the kind attention you received were quite believable in a 25-year-old so that part rang true!
Moreover, Copycat, I have heard from women, in person, things like “I’m not attractive” etc., many times over the years. The funny thing is they are always hot, in a “WTF is this discrepancy between reality and these words I’m hearing?” kind of way. So, based on probability derived from my observations, and guessing that the UK and US really aren’t all that different, I’m going to predict that you are one fine babe. Seriously.
I am going to guess also that you have not always felt this way about yourself, and that you have entered what some call a “state”. The funny thing is that when in a state, people tend to think that they have always been in this state, and cannot remember what it has been like to experience another state, unless given an explicit reminder.
So remember a time when you in fact felt like the proverbial million dollars, in as much detail as you can, sights, sounds, tactile sensations and even smells if you can remember them. QED.
In my opinion taf would be helpful in two ways. In small amounts paired with other products it feels like it could be an intensifier. Also wearing it makes me more aware and able to notice things I wouldn’t normally see. Starting over with just the social products at first could be your best bet because from what I’ve read you’re living in an area where people aren’t very open so these might provide the most obvious responses.
Other products that could be considered for pairing would be p83 for lowering inhibitions since you’re dealing with stiffs, p74 for a friendly vibe, or tac is another that is reported as fun and friendly. Though I would continue testing and reporting before moving on to a lot of those, no need to go buying more if you’re not understanding what you have yet.
As for feeling instant shine, I get nothing but a big fat shinegraine from it and was jealous of all the shiny reports. And then I bought straight taa, which feels pretty darn shiny all on its own or paired up with other products. Instant sexiness doesn’t affect me while I’m wearing it either, unless I spray on version A and become a terror. I react better and notice the most self affects from mx135(instant rose tinted glasses lol).
Another tip would be to test within your social group for a while. You are familiar with their behavior and sometimes it’s easiest to observe subtle differences in how they are responding to you. My favorite test subject is my husband, he’s so easy for me to read.
That is right, just ONE person said you did not insult Copycat. He did not say you were not offensive. Just one in 6 pages of replies.
I find this amusing. You think every person that found your post offensive is an American? This has nothing to do with nationality or political correctness. Your post is crude and has been reacted to for that reason alone. The forum is full of friendly and helpful people from many nationalities, that you choose to delude yourself and blame the “pc zealous americans” is ridiculous.
Wow… came here to try to help one of the phero-family and had my Nationality & morals bashed. Dang! 
Oh well, not everyone you meet in life is nice or good for us. shrugs shoulders
Anywho, Copycat… NO, YOU’RE NOT BROKEN! I looked at your arsenal of products. You have some nice products to work with, but I noticed that your ‘girlie’ products are primarily TAL based. Have you tried any of the TAH based products? As several people mentioned (in their own way, tho Mark was most clear on the issue), there may be a congruency issue here. 
And while not all hits will be IN YOUR FACE obvious (lol), they will be related to your own state of mind. The reason I asked about TAH products is because I feel practically invincable when wearing MX 135/235. That alone can draw people to you… confidence (not bitchiness or cockiness) is SEXY AS HELL in either gender!!! Not to imply you are otherwise, but maybe you haven’t yet found your own personal wonder-product or mixture of products.
You just don’t quit, do you?
Had you apologized for your opening post in this thread and said that you did not mean to offend anybody, it would have been over at that. But, you did not! Instead you defended your position and attacked anybody that called you on it.
You then tossed around political correctness as your justification for being rude and insulting. I’ve got news for you, the rude and offensive statements you’ve made have nothing to do with political correctness and throwing it out only shows that you refuse to accept responsibility for your actions and offending others!
I’ll tell you what Trantorx, you had not insulted me personally until your last post, and to be honest even that didn’t offend me because I knew it was coming. But, if you will humble yourself and apologize to the others reading this thread, I will retract my statements and apologize to you.
In fact, I’ll even apologize first: Trantorx I am sorry for the rude and offensive statements I made about you and your profession. I was out of line for saying what I did and hope that you can find it in yourself to forgive me.
Can you now put forth the effort to realize that this is a multi-cultured forum and not everybody can or will appreciate your blunt forwardness, and humble yourself by apologizing to the other readers in this thread, for your insulting and offending statements?
Okaaaay,
I visited the Womens Pheromone Guide again. In reviewing my products, here’s what I discovered.
Instant Shine has TAA. It’s been reported to give “an aura of youth and confidence.”
My take: Smells good, nothing more
Instant Sexiness A has TAL. It’s supposed to make you feel strong, sexy, and confident.
My take: No noticeable effects, except for a bad headache on the first day I tried it
Instant Honesty might contain B-nols. Is described as the “best friend mix.”
My take: Wore around good friends, relatives, strangers, and to a job interview, no noticeable effects
Instant Openness might contain B-nols. Reported effects include chattiness.
My take: I’m like that anyway, so it’s hard to tell if anything is enhanced.
MX134 has TAL and a little cops. It’s supposed to increase respect and helpfulness.
My take: Smells good; no noticeable effects
MX235 has TAH and cops. Called the superstar mix, it’s reported to make you the center of attention
My take: I had high hopes, but no noticeable effects; eeew, I don’t like that smell!
MX106 contains TAH and some cops. One of the Drive Him Crazy mixes.
My take: No crazy men around here; smells icky
MX274 – I can’t find what’s in it. It reportedly increases connectedness.
My take: Smells great, no effects on those around me
Now, I’m trying to understand the TAH (kittenish Marilyn Monroe)/TAL (confident Anglina Jolie)/TAF (focus and motivation)/TAA (fun and youthful) part of the equation. I’ve been getting suggestions to consider these. Some of my products have TAH and TAL.
I have ADD, so maybe TAF is what I should be looking into? Could be I’m oblivious to effects and this would help?
Any suggested products? Should I try TAF with others?
copycat
(TAH vs TAL) (Instant Sexiness – Original Androtics Formula for Women - Alpha A314)
Yes I’m suggesting pairing light taf (20mcg or less)with your products to hopefully intensify and make it a bit easier for you to notice responses.
Some people have reported to not feel any effects from wearing pheromones so you aren’t alone. I do think you’re getting responses but just not seeing them or expecting a bigger reaction. Which will come eventually but for the most part reactions are subtle.
Very interesting possibility here, Copycat… I don’t remember reading about any other ppl with ADD here. I’m sure there must be some, though. It may affect how you view and/or perceive the ppl and world around you. Maybe you & your pheromones are having more of an affect that you realize?
About TAF… In lower doses, it does lend that desired focusing affect, probably BECAUSE of its intensifying property. At higher does (I haven’t tried this myself), some ppl have reported a scatter-brained affect.
Gee, well you started it first by not only offending many ladies in the forum, and then started insulting them No offense, but that is so not a gentlemanly-thing to do.
WTF? wow, you’re bringing racial topics now. Too bad, you haven’t been to other countries, like China per say. Yes they may not be as rich as the Europeans, but Europeans wouldn’t be rich without smart asian people or any other multi-cultural people. We all make the world 1 place, everyone is scattered. So stop it with your low god damn comments, you’re making yourself look like a fool.
Okay folks, next time you give that much money to a doc/“proffesional” please do a research on them. Guess I learned something today.
Money-wise, hah, $315 per hour huh? not bad… just so that you know, I bet there are people making more money than you in this forum, but are more respectable and humble.
hmm why is that so hard to believe?..
For example If you tell a girl that she’s got a bad hair day when she didn’t. Many women will take it in even if they found their hair did look nice. The next morning, she’ll look at herself in the mirror and wonder what’s wrong with her hair style. People will accept negative things a lot faster because they’re constantly trying to critique themselves. You’re making alot of money by doing this, which is pathetic. I’m no doctor but this is just my opinion.
You’re supposed to bring positive thoughts to people yes, it’s hell to do because most people can not heal from their inner wounds quickly, but it’s your duty to think of what will make their psychological thoughts much more positive.
So far, this is what you’re telling me. “If a person thinks that they’re ugly, just tell them yea, you’re ugly, and there’s still hope”. Oh my, didn’t that honest answer make the person feel so much better about themselves, and you got a nice wammo $300 bux for 1 hr. you’re the man
That’s just garbage, I can’t believe that people are so blind/deaf to pay you that much money for your absurdity.
I am so glad to hear that. I hope they get better proffessionals to talk to.
oh boy here comes the racial comment again. Just make sure you really don’t open your mouth to an american like that, you might get something you didn’t want lol
Well in the first place, you’re so called “facts” is just bullshit. Hmm, seems like you need some english tutorials, please look at the definition of “lies”.
Wow, then why are you here? the Androtics pheros you get are from a “place of crazy bigotry”, if you thought that europeans are so much smarter, then why are you sneakishly getting stuff from america lmao
lol, don’t even get words in my mouth
selva, have i told u lately that i love you?
<3
copycat, when i first started i thought i was imagining my hits also and sometimes i still go out and i miss horribly. its really about finding the right dosage and the pheros that work for you. for example, IS-B does not work for me at all. whenever i use it, i get into fights with the guys i like and i end up coming home pissed off.
anyways, sorry about ur post being ruined with random stuff 
Again, I don’t agree with anyone in this thread who claims this man was offensive. Absolutely silly, and what I think has happened is people are reacting to his statements because of their own insecurities (or want to play hero), and not because they feel the OP was offended.
TrantorX, I agree with you 100% regarding the difference between americans and Europeans. I’m american, but I’ve spent time in Europe and the difference is very clear. I admire the way many Europeans can speak hoenstly, and don’t worry so much about being PC, or saying “the right thing”. This even shows in their sense of humor, which in some countries, can be very sarcastic (which I like). I want to hear the truth, and facts, not a bunch of fluff which does nothing but waste time and slow down the process of finding important solutions to problems. People here are always talking about what they want, what they need, and how they feel. Very insecure, extremely sensitive, and very self-centered, probably because they have such a warped perspective on the world. Certainly not everyone (and if you’re not, you shouldn’t be bothered by what I just said) is like this, but the % is much higher here than in other countries I’ve been to.
You shouldn’t be too surprised though, because this is a country that worships people like Oprah Winfrey, who IMO is a stone cold idiot who I wouldn’t walk into the next room to meet, and has made hundreds of millions of dollars by making excuses for people’s (and her own) stupid behavior. For example, this a person who is a colossal failure at losing weight and being healthy. Yet, for many, many years she has continued to act as an expert on this subject, and people follow her words (and spend a lot of money where she tells them to) like a messiah. Why? Because she makes excuses for them, and people gladly pay her millions because so they don’t have to ever face the cold hard facts.
The things you’ve said about truth/facts/americans are illustrated perfectly by this subject alone.
There’s only one bit of advice that anyone needs who is overweight…Eat normal amounts of healthy food (fruits/vegetables) and get some daily exercise. Consume less calories in a day than your body burns off. The reason you should do this is so you will have a healthy body. Nno other reasons necessary, or nearly as important.
That’s it. You follow this simple advice and you will lose weight and be healthy.
Unfortunately, that advice isn’t what many americans want to hear. They want to blame everyone and everything but themselves, comlicate the issue to the point where it allows them to fail and not feel it was their own fault, and ignore the fact that they make the physical motion of putting food in their hands and shoveling it into their face more often in a day than they should. That’s why the diet industry has made billions over the years. Proves your points 100%. The diet industry, along with people like Oprah, allow those with weight problems to live in denial and do everything BUT what’s necessary. Despite all this, today this country is fatter than ever. The end result has been massive failure, but don’t try to tell people the cold hard facts, because all you’ll get is denial, excuses, and a lot of hysterics. They want you to carefully choose your words, and be PC.
In France, where the food is very rich, you still don’t see many heavy people. They know the facts about food/exercise/, accept them, and stay slim and healthy. I was in a city in Eastern Europe recently where it was almost impossible to find a heavy person. This is a thriving city of 2 milion, where people live just as well as those in any major american city. The people there simply have decided to face facts, and control their eating habits. They exercise. If they can do it, so can americans. No excuses. They also are people who speak very honestly and directly. Their humor is very sarcastic, and you know what?..I loved it.
I’ll give you an example. I walked up to the ticket counter at an airport in Eastern Europe and said to the woman there, “I have a 2pm flight to Vienna and…”. She interrupted with, “Good for you.” Now I found her remark funny because it was so unexpected (which was her intention), and I smiled and almost laughed out loud. She tried to hold back a smile but one crept through just slightly when she saw my reaction. Many americans find people from this part of the world to be cold and rude when in fact they are very warm, friendly, and VERY funny. It’s just that they don’t bother with fluff and political correctness. I met a stunningly beautiful woman (puts Victoria Secret supermodels to shame) who was so different than women I’m used to because she was so strong and confident. She and I actually had fun making sarcastic little insults towards each other, but she was such a strong person that anything I said (even insulting her appearance) was just like water off a duck’s back. These exchanges were funny, and she enjoyed them. She and other people there like strong people. Not extremely sensitive people who get upset over the littlest things.
So yes, there is a big difference between americans and Europeans, and unfortunately that’s what you’ve had to endure in this thread.
I would try and ignore the criticsm you’ve received in this thread and go on and enjoy the forum. I’ve been reading this forum a lot over the past month, and these people seem nice and want to be helpful. In this case, I think they’ve just overreacted and made something out of absolutely nothing at all.