I have a question that has risen to my attention. I have been reading on a good amout of forums that alot of people don’t feel any self-effects from pheromones. I would assume that if you use pheromones then they will effect you too. If they dont effect the person that is using them then how are they effecting others. This doesnt make sense to me?? It just makes me curious because if they dont effect your feelings then how would they effect anyone else. Im not trying to downplay them, I am simply just curious. I am new to this. And if I dont receive self-effects then would other people that use pheromones even work on me?
A314 and IS definitely affect the way I feel. But even that aside the mones by themselves aren’t what we are conditioned to respond too. We respond to a person with a pheromone signature so in all likelihood the stimulus triggering the behavioral change requires a person to be wearing them.
that’s my hypothesis.
I dont know the exact answer to your question, but have you tried pheromones?
If you want pheromones to help you, you need to go out and interact with people. What pheromones can do is that they can give you extra edge around people. They can enhance conversation, help someone feel connected to you, cause attraction etc. But if you sit on the couch and spray some pheros to you, they dont do anything.. If there are self efects, those are easier to notice when you go out and meet people.
However there are pheros that causes more noticeaple self efects than others.
For example to me Instant shine makes me feel good and confident. And it really does it! But even still I need to go out/communicate with people to get full extend of those self efects or in other words to get those self efects going.
I have felt Instant Honesty really making conversation more deep and personal. Could that count as a self efect? I think so, because it is not only the other person who is conversing more deep, it is me aswell.
So when you go places where are people and interact with them, you see how mones that you put on effects on you.
Pheromones are a natural signalling mechanism designed to communicate your physical fitness and other attributes to other people. While enhancing your natural signature with artificial pheromones can give you self effects, normally they will quickly fade with repeated use. This is often put down to the body adapting to the new signature and accepting it as a part of you.
No-one gets horny by sniffing their own skunky armpits, do they? If they do, they’re weird. LOL! But you can get horny by smelling your partner’s natural scent.
Musk
I do have pheromones:
I have a314, ammo, IS, IO, CTTM2, TUTH, IG
I was just reading on some different forums over the past couple of days or week and have seen that there tends to be a large amount of people that are do not get self-effects. But with the socials, that would be something that you would expect to recieve. Maybe not with things like TUTH tho, but I would believe that if they are going to effect other people then they should also effect me. Otherwise it would just be your belief in them and make you think of yourself a certain way, thus having a placebo effect. Again, I am not trying to criticize them at all. I am just curious to how it all works, if they dont have an effect on me, then how others?
I highly agree with Musk, some users claim to feel self effects while others don’t, also some do then as Musk mentioned they get used to them as being a part of their own.
One that really affects me for example is -none and A314, these two alone or combined make me feel really confident with -none especially giving me the effect of making me want to walk straighter. Many times have I felt the effect of -none making me want to walk upright like if my body is making me do this, and it’s funny because the feeling is definitely NOT by choice.
Does anyone else experience if you leave mone on when you sleep, you’re really sexually frustrated (if … you’re not getting any)?
This has happened to a “friend” of mine. Right.
It makes perfect sense really when you understand how and why pheromones do they do and what they wont do.
First…Pheromones will signal every person who comes in contact with them but every person will not react to them. For instance when you wear IO every signal person wont respond to the signal they are getting. There are different parts of the brain that are all sending signals at the same time to the emotional centers that trigger a response to pheromones. So its just the same as some people get self effects and some dont. If someone is tired, sick or just consumed with some other activity they wont respond either.
Musk hit the nail on the head though, but there a few reasons everyone doesn’t get self effects. Right now they are all theory and have not been scientifically proven. For those using pheromones for a long time you come to understand them and how they work.
Some people may be using a particular pheromone that they already are used to naturally so they dont notice a self effect from it.
Some people are more logic driven then emotion driven and this effects how they feel when using them. For instance I am naturally outgoing and friendly so IO doesn’t do a thing for me self effect wise but I will touch on that subject more later,
Pheromones work in the subconscious mind. When you apply them your conscious of it. Being conscious of it your mind is in more control over your emotions. This is why its not a good idea to tell your targets your using pheromones. Once they are conscious of it the logical side of the brain reacts as well sending a whole new set of chemicals to the emotional centers of your brain that can interfere with the signal.
Pheromones signal others with information about you. They trigger a emotion and people look for the source of the emotion. We use all of our senses to do this. Pheromones give you a edge because they amplify that one source for you. However even with the signal pheromones are not going to do all the work for you.
This is why we often talk about Body language, Neat appearances, Confidence. congruence and other forms of attraction in here. A lot of members like to say its 90 % you 10% the pheromones. I always think that number fluctuates a little depending on the mix your wearing. But the point is they improve your chances and if you take the time to learn the other skills that go along with attraction your experience using pheromones will be fantastic. If you just spray them on and sit and wait for your world to change you will not experience the hits a lot of people report. You may just see slight differences if your very aware of people behavior patterns.
Its not uncommon for people to have sexual arousal or sometimes other feelings from pheromones when your sleeping. While asleep your subconscious mind is engaged and your conscious logical mind is at rest.
Back to IO… When I use it I dont talk more, I am already a very outgoing person and naturally talk alot anyways. I wear it to signal others and make them feel comfortable and more open to talking to me. Depending on peoples comfort levels some respond to the signal and some dont but its definitely a increase over my normal pre-pheromone experience. For those who dont just outright respond to IO and come up and talk to me it will still make their comfort levels increase and when I talk to them they are more friendly and responsive.
However if I wear it at night before bed I will not be able to sleep or if I do fall asleep I will have really weird dreams that continue to wake me up over and over. This is because when I am sleeping my logical mind that tells me “you are already outgoing tisha its time to rest” is at rest and my subconscious mind gets the signal from the mones and go’s into overdrive undisturbed by my logical thoughts.
Tisha
Thanks for your explanation Tisha . That helped clear up a lot for me. I thought about the effects and just had a curious question that I didn’t know the answer to. I’m trying go learn as much as I can about pheros so I can put them to their best use. Thanks everyone that added their imput!
Sleep with ammo on. I dare you.
I would rather sleep with a little TUTH on. For me a little go’s a long long way and makes for very ummmm… shall we say productive dreams 
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Tisha
I’m actually really curious if you have! When this happens to me I can’t sleep at all! Difference in genders I guess. Hah.
Yes I actually have slept with both TUTH and AMMO on.
My husband doesn’t really get into pheromones but he will wear some for me if I ask. Some of the males I know and work with use pheromones to so I have been exposed to most of the men’s products on them as well. Not in bed of course but just in day to day activity.
I have posted on this before but with 13,000 posts it may be hard to find LOL
TUTH is hot as hell. I will have sometimes shockingly x-rated dreams if my husband is wearing it or if I am wearing it at night. Course I dont tell him that though but on occasion he will ask “Jesus what the hell were you dreaming about last night” Instead of telling him I show him (snort) 
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Out and about if your not oding I get sort of a needy aroused feeling. When the guys I know and are just friends with wear it I will still get horny but not for them because I am in a committed relationship but when I get home all deals are off LOL. I cant say what I would do if I was single but I know I would take a second look at some of these guys if I were.
AMMO makes me mildly aroused, I dont get the needy I need to get some now feeling. I get more of a sweet slow burn that builds as well as more more flirty comfortable feeling with the wearer. My dreams whether he is wearing it or I am are more on the romantic sexy sensual side of things.
If you wear to much anone though I will get very cranky. I am still horny as hell but I am more of a horny bitch from hell.
I believe most women feel something similar to this when they are exposed to the products as long as there is some other attraction involved be it visual or on a computability level or whatever. However not every women is going to just show these feelings outright to you. While we may be aroused some women are just not comfortable with there sexuality so they hold back cues others are not so they may blatantly hit on you.
This is another reason why mones dont do all the work for you.
Tisha
Unlike insects and lower mammals, mones do not invoke involuntary behavior in humans. Instead, mones are highly context sensitive and subject to additional brain processing insects and other mammals lack.
Although the “primitive” part of our brain (Limbic system) gets the mone signal, the rational part of the quickly brain filters out false alarms and dead ends. For example, an unattractive person wearing mones is in your personal space. The brain’s idiot light goes off–beep, beep–healthy female with abundant cops and nol in target range. You look and little willie retreats between your legs. Bad hair. Bad breath. Furry arms. Funny clothing. Too tall. Member of Young Republicans. Too rich. Whatever the turnoff, your brain immediately tells the body to stand down and you ignore her.
I recall 6 years ago I actually got a little buzz off NPA and TE. And my brain quickly figured out when I wore them it meant exactly nothing–no social context–and now I get zip self effects. Nothin’ On the other hand, dab a little TE on a hot woman and I go freakin’ nuts. Context is everything.
Since I can handle anone pretty well, I should try to wear this at school one of these days; maybe in its raw form Get all the girls wet, and make them come home dreaming “steamy” x-rated stuff about me
Personally, I haven’t gotten any effect from any mone yet; who knows? even I might not be aware of it, haha