Good point, future…
Both valid points, but I do have to agree with future777 more. Everything in life is valid, if you make it so. When I initially wrote about peacaocking, I did so to say that aspiring PUA’s, or recovering AFC’s, however you want to call it, don’t need to do it. In most instances they just don’t understand how to do it and therefore should not call unwanted attention to themselves, especially if they don’t know how to use that attention positively.
Peacocking is wearing a pair of BIG yellow glasses with red LED lights that chase around the frames. Very interesting, and clever, or on the other hand strange, and awkward. It’s up to the individual on how it is perceived, not the person who is observing.
Mickey mouse shirt, no. Mickey mouse watch with light up eyes, clever! Just enough to catch someones eye.
You need to be comfortable with yourself, before others will be comfortable with you. Caling attention to yourself when you are not comfortable is a recipe for disaster.
Changing his perception of ‘hot’ women ?
Some can have a killer look & still have snakes tween the ears.
peacocking is essential just standing out and not being like every other guy in the bar. not many guys will actually do it though because they dont have the balls.
the only disadvantage with peacocking is it will lock you out from talking to a lot of average looking girls because they think its lame or too intimidating for them. however hot girls really appriciate it because you are getting as much attention as they are, and mostly hot girls will be so bored with guys all being the same they will sleep with the guy that stands out the most.
please dont argue unless you’ve actually tested it… challenge has been set 
Nobody here is arguing. We are discussing and sharing our views, just like you.
I do not care how successful you claim to be, how many classes a week you teach, or who you have dated.
The fact of the matter is, you are at a pheromone discussion forum, in a “men’s pheromone advice” board, and you posted a thread that has nothing to do with “men’s pheromone advice”. Instead you are promoting yourself and your website.
All I can say is that the people at PheroTalk are very gracious in letting you continue to post your spam.
Future, I’m with you about the graciousness shown in this thread. I’ve been biting my tongue, but since you brought it up, wanna know what bothers me in particular about kingy and this thread (kinda along the points you’ve mentioned?)
First of all, (as you point out) this thread is parked in the wrong forum (Men’s Pheromone advice, Tips & Tricks). Although there have been PUA threads started here that still relate to picking up women as it relates to the usage of pheromones (which kingy continues to totally ignore at every turn), this thread isn’t even close.
What REALLY grinds me though, is when somebody titles a thread “Important post on how to get hot hot women,” it better frikken deliver the goods. Reading kingy’s points, I cannot for the life of me imagine who would pay for what he’s saying. Every insight is either common sense or been covered by much better authors with logical detail. I can name 5 books off the top of my head which make mince-meat out everything that klingy’s posted which would cost less that $15 each from Amazon (including shipping.) I wonder if the title of this thread should be called the “Self-important post on how to get hot hot women.”
By the way, picking up a “hot” stripper, not my idea of Game (the dorkiest guy who’s never heard of David D. with enough Benjamins can pick up “hot” strippers.) That’s like bragging about how attractive your rental car is. Nobody cares but you.
Normally, I’m not into slamming people like this, but if I want to be lectured to, I want it to be by somebody with some credibility (and by that, I mean credibility that’s NOT in just your own mind) and solid ideas that are not just vague generalities. Based upon your posts, kingy, you have zero credibility, and by the posts of others, it should be clear that I’m not the only one who feels this way. Not only do you have little understanding of women, you don’t even understand other men. If you did understand people and the importance of socialization, you’d be applying those skills here instead of pissing people off. The fact that you don’t grasp the minutia of the comments people are making speaks volumes to me.
You’re so good at throwing out challenges, want one of your own, kingy? Try not to post again until you can tell us your experiences picking up hot hot women using pheromones (doesn’t have to be the products sold by the people who sponsor this forum, they’re open, you can talk about any legit pheromone product), so we’re on the same page. We can go anywhere WE choose to pick up PUA material. We don’t need self-proclaimed gurus passing their vague concepts off as important in order to promote themselves. Let us decide if you walk the walk. Don’t pass off your stripper conquests as social proof; it’s not.
So the only way you can stand out is peacocking? I disagree completely with that.
Whenever I went out with Style, he didn’t stand out at all by wearing clothing or gimmicks. What stood out was his presence. Same thing with Blitz, Alex Allman, Romeo, Valentino, Brent Smith, Grant (PU101), Garrison Cohen (AMP), Johnny Wolf, Daniel Rose, Mehow, and quite a few others that I have hung out with. Not much on peacocking as much as well dressed and making an impact through sheer pressence. Yeah I name dropped, but these are all well known Gurus who I not only admire, but have spent time with.
I like to take people at their word, so if you say you’re a PUA instructer guru, than great. I’d like to, maybe, get together and do some field work with you too. Who is arguing here though? What challenge might you be speaking about. You aren’t suggesting an aspiring PUA goes out peacocking without the right mindset, or even knowing how to use peacocking are you?
I’d have to say the real challenge is who can go out without props, gimmicks, and yeah no mones either and make their pressence felt just by being, well being themselves. That’s the real challenge.
And I also do agree with Robbie that strippers, IMHO, are not what I would call HOT, but to each his own. I think the bigger challenge is the college hottie out for a drink with her friends. There’s no money being exchanged to get a peak at her tits, no shaking her ass to get a dollar, no sex connotations, only SteveO and my game. But like I said, if that’s what floats your boat, you should seek out and speak with data4. He’s not a PUA, he doesn’t peacock at all and is very successful with strippers. Oh and then there’s mark-in-dallas who is like the anti-PUA and another great example of stripper madness.
Feel free to keep posting though. Maybe you could give us all some pointers on how to peacock and how it works in the strip club. I know I like to learn whatever I can, so I would love to hear some of your examples and such. Looking forward to your response.
lol oh dear,
your right im a big fake and enjoy picking up your hot strippers man, tell me have you actually done it?
please move this to the correct board i did not know where to post my first post so cut me some slack
Steve did i say peacocking was the only way of standing out? you have just gone on a rant for no reason at all.
what is the matter with you guys, if you dont wanna read the post then dont, if you get value from it great, if its in the wrong section ask admin to move it cos it bothers you that much.
p.s. it sounds like you pay a lot of money on pu coaching steve, save your money man its not worth it
Clueless…
i got to tell you your the first person on these forums that ever really pisst me off in a long time,
you are so proud of picking up strippers as a pickup artist teacher and you get paid to teach i feel bad for your students? are you kidding me? strippers get paid to talk you, the opening is already done for you.
i am not going to say much else becuase i am afraid i will get myself in trouble, so will leave it at that.
Pick up strippers? He!!, in my 30’s I was living with strippers! In fact one of them and I spent a year and a half traveling all over Europe (she paid her own way).
Later I lived with Miss Nude California.
You asked…
My sister has many female friends, two of them being strippers. When I visit her, the strippers always try to get her to hook me up with them. They won’t let up. They are very pretty, I’m sure if you had the chance, you’d hit them. I always decline. So, they show up at my sister’s place when I’m there, flirting their asses off, wearing almost nothing, it must be the heat. Maybe that’s why they’re panting. Don’t get me wrong, I love women. But strippers? Oooh, you got me, I’ve never actually done it.
Experience trumps bullshit every time…
My brother is built like Steve, our host. Not a small guy. He dates strippers exclusively. He has for at least 10 years now. He’s had threesomes (2 women) and foursomes (3 women). I can’t tell you how many times he’s had naked women climbing out of his window in the middle of the night while another is pounding on his front door. Several women have gotten in cat fights over him. He never buys them a thing, but they shower him with gifts. To me, it’s a circus of a life.
If you think I’m being harsh to you, my brother would laugh his ass off at your bragging.
Plenty of guys have posted about their adventures with strippers and I’ve never made a peep. That’s their choice. When you act like you know more than everyone else in this place-- you’d BETTER.
Oh, Jim, come on-- she had a sash.
…Teach me, sensei.
Ok, you got me.
over
Sadly the tight a$$ “city fathers”, in order to protect our “morals” harassed the strip clubs and eventually took away their liquor licenses. So, now instead of strip bars with 21+ topless strippers and beer, we now have “soda pop shops”. That is overweight, poor, 18 year old nude stripper mothers in places in the crappy parts of town that can only serve soft drinks, with no class. I wouldn’t go into those places on a bet.
lol i just said i know absolutely nothing about women, you are right
You’re 25, that makes this statement pretty accurate.
Well I thougt I would give a small opinion even tough I’m by no means an expert in game. I am rather the typical young guy that got fascinated by the game a few years back when I read “The Game” I know, I know, I’m not one of the originals, but you can’t blame me for liking that book, I love good literature, but all the credit to Neil Strauss, his book is great and really entertaining!
I have tried out a lot of the small advices on gaming and I gotta admit that of many of them work great, but as Steve o puts it, it’s not about a single technique that will get you laid, it’s about the presence you give and the personality you back your image up with. Put me in a cowboy hat and I’ll look like an idiot because my personality just doesn’t work with it, but for a guy like mark in dallas it is a great look that just complements his personality (which I know isn’t for peakocking, but rather that’s just his look, at least in the avatars)
I for one am not against peakocking, but I sure went through a lot of mistakes before I found a way that suits me. Now instead of wearing ridiculous arm bands and having my friends laugh at me, I’ll wear a black shirt with shiny print on it, a nice watch that stands out, or a pair of dog tags that always makes girls constantly want to pull on them. I don’t ever want to look like a clown, but I like when girls tell me that I have my own look. I try to do the same with the game; I don’t know all the techniques or routines, but I’ll use my own interesting stories, pull and push girls, try to smile and present an image that i both attractive and likable, but still being me.
Pheromones are the same, I won’t wear pheromones and stand in the corner, I try to back them up with personality. I obviously don’t sleep with tons of girls, but I’ve been quite successful since I discovered the game and pheromones (one year ago) and have also found a girl that likes me for me and not for an alter ego I created. I respect guy with game because those who truly have it (whether pua’s or naturals) understand that game, much like pheromones, is not about being someone you’re not, but rather helping you bring out the best that’s already in you.
ps. holy crap steve o how did you get to meet all those guys? Next time you’re in philly you’ll have to show me some skills!
I can see how talking to strippers might help overcome some problems, espcially if you are very shy or hung up on looks.
Kingy you did say peacocking was essential, which does mean , well, essential.