this particular girl, early 20ies. whenever im sitting on a chair like a boss with american leg cross and focused face, she flicks her hair to side and rolls up her tshirt sleeve all the way to the top, revealing her complete arm facing to me. has anybody have an idea? it only happens when im sitting like that and only with this girl.
IOI and a pretty blatant one at that. Playing with hair and exposing skin is a major indicator that she might be interested, not to mention the movements seem to be directed toward you.
May I ask what mones you were using?
i dont know. it also happend when i didnt have mones. just alot of self-confidence and balls. otherwise ive been using regularly a314.
Self confidence and balls. The best way to get a girl.
and losing confidence is also the easiest way to lose a girl =)
she always had mixed feelings towards me, i didnt strike at right time since i also viewed her as a friend. i developed emotional and mental issues due to private reasons and became too weak/clingy, when i made move in this state i went straight into her friendzone.
but i guess all is not lost, since she CAN be attracted to me. if i give some time and start making the right moves, maybe i can repair the damage and rebuild the attraction. women keep changing all the time.
My advice. Forget and move on.
" Experience is just a name we give to the mistakes that we have made and will keep on making" Oscar Wilde
after i confessed like an idiot and she said that she sees me only as friend, i went cocky and said (maybe it wasnt the best thing to say but anyway)
“yeah sure, i also saw you as a friend but it changed lately. you have courage for nothing. do whatever you want.”
she didnt reply for days, if she liked me as a friend at least she would say something. man i was her badboy prize from outside her fuckin dorm. she was the one who called me and invited me over. shitloads of ioi and jealousy. ignored all my bullshit was flirty to me. she prob has ego issues and thinks im gonna use her (cuz she saw me hitting on countless women). shes also very smart. i dont wanna forget her we are so compatible. worst case i wanna start from scratch with her, with some genius comeback plan.
Going after her will just make you look needy.
Forget and move on.
Is she the only girl in the world?
why do you give up on everything so easly? ive taken things too lightly. there are certain things that prevent her viewing me as boyfriend material again. i just need to display value and dump her. dude she would do me so good, small swimmers body, slim face, smart, alpha. i fucked it up, one should never become weak in front of a alpha girl. she prob liked me too but i made myself too easy for her. couldnt even fuck her once because i didnt want back then. ill start sport again also boxing lesson, i need to engrave this manliness in me so ill never cause mixed signals.
well i can just keep hitting other girls like always, maybe she will crawl back to me.
I don’t give up. I make a tactical withdrawal, then work on my theoretical and practical.
my biggest mistake is that i keep falling for girls which im not interested at start, because i deeply crave for a long term gf and love. im such an idiot, the punishment to my mistakes shouldnt be this harsh. did you know that i never had a girlfriend?i need to learn this game again.
How old are you?
unfortunately 26. shes 21 or something. my life is so fucked up so far, because of my toxic childish parents trying to make me small every chance they get. everything i learned i thought to myself. this is not the typical unfairness of life. i made my life unfair for me by my own mistakes, didnt fight or repel hard enough, took everything like a sponge just not to turn into an asshole like my dad. finally i stood up and moved out. i was also working under him and have quit the job. im very relaxed, calm and collected by nature, but when i break i get very vulnerable, because i put everything inside.
i met her in the workplace, she was an intern. she respected me and valued me but i fucked it up. im willing to work hard and do whatever it takes to change myself. i just need to be more of a man thats all. but it sucks to get motivation to do all things with knowing i cant get her, if its the case. i know i do everything for myself, but cant find any motivation. i cant even think of other girls, nomatter how hot. maybe i just needed a pillow to cry and befriended her, never really saw her as gf, dug my own grave then fell into it. im so full of dreams and ideals and each passing day this beautiful world inside of me getting smaller. it really sucks believe me, but at least i can feel something. besides love i cant feel anything. maybe cuz i never got love thats why.
and talk is cheap, you need to make women feel by your actions. i belive i made her feel sometimes, but not consistently. and my last actions sucked. i deserve an another chance
I agree with Reaper here.
Best thing to do is move on. It’s not giving up, it’s putting yourself first so that you can succeed. Don’t cling on too hard so that you forget about you. Focus on yourself first, and the others will follow.
By paying too much attention to her, you are setting yourself up for disappointnent.
As a wise man once said, “If you put her on a pedestal, she has no choice but to look down on you.” In other words, if you devote all your attention to her, she’ll think you are not good enough.
Retreat a little, show you care about yourself primarily, be assertive, and watch as she crawls back to you.
last thing i said was something like “you know you like me too but dont have any courage, do whatever you want” in other words fuck off coward. maybe shes insulted. should i let it cool abit and at least let her know that im doing allright and manning up? i fear that i could have fell really deep in her eyes that she erased me completely so i need have one more final word before releasing it.
i could bring my latest private problems as excuse, which is actually true.
You’re in a pretty tricky situation to be honest and at this point there is only one thing you can do.
You have to tell her that you want to meet up to talk about everything. Once you two meet, you explain to her why you said what you did (personal problems and what not). Also, express your feelings for her. Do it in an assertive way, speak at a good time and clearly, carry yourself with confidence while you do so. Do not let her interrupt you but do not be rude. Once you have explained everything, say that you want her to make a decision right now. Make her choose between giving you a chance at the whole dating thing, or becoming complete strangers. Do not let her have the choice of just friends. Either dating, or nothing.
Now there are two ways she can react. Either she will see that you are serious about this and give you a shot, or she’ll opt to end everything, including the friendship.
Either way it’s a win for you. of she chooses to date you, then congrats! You’ve done it.
If she chooses to end the friendship and everything, you won’t have to cling on to her anymore and can move ahead in life.
Sure the latter might be more painful but as I said, you need to learn to put yourself first, and you need to be the one to set the standards. That’s the only way you can succeed with most women.
She is too young (21) to make a logical relationship decision. More than likely, she will base her decision on how she feels rather than looking at the pros and cons.
Young or old, all women will make their decision based on her emotions. Honestly I think he will be better off getting this out of the way sooner than later. The sooner he knows the decision, the leSs time he will waste IMPHO
I suppose it varies culture to culture.
I agree, the sooner she tells of her decision the better but I am also of the opinion that she might not relent, even if she does like the OP.
man i just need to learn how to talk to girls and try not to fuck up things from start. i need to keep hitting more girls and learn from experience.
expressing more feelings will make it worse, cuz apperanty she doesnt feel anything atm. meeting her isnt easy as she lives aboard. i invited to go somewhere she tried to bring her orbiter, which i declined and she didnt like it. then i pushed to go alone she tried to drag me, then i made her know im not an orbiter and expressed my feelings, she put me in friendzone. if one thing i learned, when she isnt ready expressing feeling will put you straight into friendzone. feelings meaningless without attraction.
yes i think women are driven alot by emotions and constantly change, especially young and somewhat attractive ones. theres nothing much i can do at this point tbh,ill wait a week, lets see if she contacts me again or forgets me completely. as i was bullshitting her earlier i said something like, i need to change some things my life then we can be friends again etc.. she reacted abit pissed to that like “so what is this about, you want to breakup the friendship? so what is it?”
she wanted/needed me sofar as a friend or orbiter and what not, lets see if she still wants/needs.
btw i jsut realized that my mom would possibly rape me if she had no morals. everybody is fucking up with my mind.
i remember years ago she was sitting with her female friend (all milfs) in living room, and that woman called her daughter to pick her up she came all the way inside, i asked wtf is going on, my mom said “she couldnt get you for herself so she tried to make you for her daughter” man in what kind of sick family i grew up. i really need a friend to talk.
i have an idea. if she doesnt reply ill offer her either dating or friendship, but if friendship, if she really “loves me as friend” she must talk with me about everything, like a therapy, without the possibility of me fallin in her. if she declines both she can fuck off, as simple as that. i can tell her that i was confused because i hit so many women, shit happens. so i can keep her at bay while improving myself.