I’ve started to wonder if my wife and I are perhaps many standard deviations outside the normal response to IG. We get consistent results that I do not question for myself, but I find myself regularly “corrected” when I communicate these results to new members.
I have to acknowledge the fact that my experiences may be substantially different from what is normally experienced, hence I’ll ask a few of you for your experiences.
I often get sexual IOIs from women when I wear IG. My wife finds IG to be her favorite product on me. It often leads to mutually pleasurable mating activity. I think of it as “sexual” although the flavor of the intercourse is not as animalistic as with a high dose of anone. I am still curious as to why some experts classify it as “not sexual.”
Also, I score high on introversion scales on most psychological tests. Yet I find IG makes socialization much easier and more fluid for me, in contrast to the expert opinion that it increases social distance for such people.
Just how unusual am I? I’ll definitely change the advice I give to newcomers if it turns out I am very different from the others who use this product.
[added in edit - this is a multiple choice poll so you can answer both parts of the poll by clicking multiple buttons.]
Heya Gone, I’m an IG enthusiast. It was a no brainer to say that IG makes it easier for me to socialize. I’ve never thought it intensified my introversion and consider it quite the opposite. Socializing is mind intense work to me. IG makes it much easier to maintain a social attitude. I hope to hear Tisha’s reasoning about why she feels it intensifies introversion.
Having said that I don’t think it intensifies extroversion, it simply makes maintaining an extroverted mood much easier. I guess a metaphor would be that being in a group for me is like working in bright sunlight and wearing IG is like putting on sunglasses. Bosshank might say it’s being cool. I don’t think that is distancing, just managing the intense experience that socializing is to me.
As to the other part, IG’s sexuality. This is a little harder to say. It’s a comforter and that allows women, who might otherwise not show interest, to go ahead and let their guard down a little. I would not recommend it to newbies who felt they were trying to escape the much maligned and I personally think overemphasized “Friend Zone”. For someone experienced with pheromones I think it could very effectively be used to make a woman see you as more mate than friend.
I’m pretty sure I’ve seen IG give women goosebumps, and uh other bumps, under the right conditions. It can certainly bring out those sighs of longing.
I don’t have any experience with IG - but I’ve found A314 to be much more “sexual” than AMMO when I compare my LTR’s reactions to the two.
A314 and IG share some similar characteristics so I think it’s applicable to say that the rone molecule IS highly sexual for the certain ladies.
From my experience and those that I have read on the forums I would argue that women who are highly selective towards status tend to find rone based mixes much sexier than none based mixes.
I say each mone has something that just does it for the receiver (wife, lover, girlfriend, friend) … as to we all know that …
some are attracted to -none
some like spice
some like floral
some like the smell of musk
some like the smell of jock straps
etc
etc
Maybe your own signature blends well with IG, GW.
This mone world is interesting, but there are so many things that are still unclear … to be discovered … to figure out. Blood, skin color, height, attitude, personality … all can be thrown into the mixture as to what works for you or me, and in how the target’s receiver is receiving your sounds.
I’m pretty sure that IG can be sexual to lots of targets, and so can IO or IH or Instant Shine … depending on the target snotter and her/his wirering.
If you had questions as to why I didn’t agree with you or suggested something else to those two new members you really should have just PMed me. I would have gladly told you why. Since you want to do this on the open forum fine, Since your questioning centers more around me and my opinion (as illustrated in the quotes) then it does IG, I would appreciate it if when you quote me and question what it is I do here, at least have enough courtesy to give all the response.
The member is introverted, mildly shy, doesn’t initiate conversation and this is what he asked for …
Your suggestion…
I suggest the socials first (IO IH and Ishine) to help him open up with others and increase comfort and socialization. A strong masculine vibe that makes him stand out is great but it wont make her talk to him more. He didnt ask for anything sexual or masculine in his post but he mentioned he needed to be more aggressive which is why I mentioned AMMO. Anone is more aggressive then arone. Both increase confidence
The second member you mention…
My response…
I don’t suggest products because they are my favorite. I am not saying you do either. I look at the persons total situation. All their needs and their personality and try to fit the with something that will work well for them and bring them back here to this forum and Androtics to try other products. While IG can have a sexy aura, when someone asks for a sexual product I suggest the product that will fit their needs the closest such as AMMO or TUTH. When they indicate they are introverted and want to be more open I suggest the product that fits that request the closest like a social.
There is not one product here that can not cause sexual reaction if you know how to use it and are congruent. New people need the most fitting choice because they are skeptical to begin with when they get here. They need something they can see work for them and their needs. So many members start with something that dosnt fit them and end up turned off to mones entirely because they didnt do what was expected. Its my purpose here to make sure that dosnt happen.
I am in no way suggesting they should never use IG. I have been a advocate for IG for a long time and you fail to mention how many times I do suggest it and agree with you when you suggest it. Its far more times then I disagree with you.
Frankly I don’t think your poll is about whether IG is sexual but more about whether Tisha is wrong or right. Contrary to popular belief I do know what I am doing. I am in no way saying you dont or your opinion or experience with the product is wrong. If you feel I am unqualified or I am misleading the members just let Steve know and I will step down and discontinue my participation here.
I do apologize to the two new members here for this ending up on the open forum but I felt the need to defend my suggestions because of the lack information given when I was quoted.
I love Instant Gentleman, it’s yummy. Of course, I’ve only smelled it on one man.
I can’t say I’ve noticed any introversion when Wolf wears it and when I asked him about it he said… it may seem to introvert him but only in the sense that he feels an inner control… if that makes sense to anyone.
I find I can’t stop cuddling up next to him when he wears it. He seems so solid, sure of himself and manly. Pardon me while I get all swoony…aaaah…ooooh…and yes, I find it can be turned sexual…at will…at least for me. It works well alone but add a little -none and…definitely…you can take that to the bank.
Some of the younger men here might be interested in checking out some of bond’s posts on using IG. That boy’s got a real handle on what it can do, especially for younger men. He’s worn it a lot and his reports are excellent. Go bond!
If you ask the question … JUST DO IT! But … one should test for at least 7 days before upping the sprays. <This is my opinion ONLY>
Like I said … the messages of mones can vary from nose to nose. Cat pee can be a turn on for some, and a turn off for others. We KNOW what some of the products are suppose to do, BUT!
One of the things I learned long ago is we’re all individuals in terms of persona, cultural, appearance, body chemistry and goals/expectations. That’s a lots of variables to mess up an “average” response to certain mones. I find many, not all, of the reactions written up here and at LS are at odds with my experience. It doesn’t mean somebody is right and somebody else is wrong. It simply means we experience a wide range of reactions from negative to positive, from sexual to social, from strong to nada, etc.
I’ve never used IG. However I have experimented at length with chemset androsterone both solo and in homebrew mixes, so I think there are similarities. A stiff dose of androsterone strikes me as a very masculine mone although not obviously sexual or aggressive. It’s strong, steadfast but laidback in my experience. It rarely lights a fire in the loins of my dates although there are exceptions (some younger Asian women seems to like it more than other women). For general use (work), I like my androsterone served up with equal portions of androstenone and androstenol. Makes my job of “acting” a little easier. Straight androsterone is a little too fatherly and requires too much effort (acting) to override.
Be that as it may, I can’t credit androsterone or any other mones with making me more or less social. I’m me no matter what and always have full power to control my persona, e.g., be friendly or rude, aggressive or meek, horny or prudish, etc. Mones get no credit here. What they do for me is make me a little more effective at communicating and drawing attention to myself. I still gotta do the grunt work or nuttin’ happens.
I’ve had a couple of people interested in following my sexy mixes suggest that I try Androsterone and see what happens. There are quite a few PM’s in my inbox suggesting that this has some very sexy characteristics.
I haven’t tried it yet, but it’s sitting there at the back of my mind waiting for an opportunity.
I know that I find A314 to be very sexy, but that is a wholly different mix.
I don’t know if there’s a story to this between GWTW and Tisha, but when reading GWTWs post I didn’t have the impression that it was an attack against Tisha. To the contrary: I think the OP questions his own experiences with IG and wants to know how others experiences with this product are…
For me, an introvert, IG makes socialisation easier. It gives me a little confidence boost, calms my mind down and makes it easier for me to relax in social situations. So actually, I think recommending IG to the shy one who wants to open up more to others, is great. I’d have done so myself. Especially as he mentions that he’s into this shy girl who barely speaks - in my experience shy girls need comfort to open up, Ammo wouldn’t do this IMO, IG would…
Thank you for your opinion Bob. There is nothing “going on” between myself and GW. I have respect for the man and his opinions and I always have.
He did single me out though so I felt the need to point out why I made those comments. Every users situation is different especially in the intro section when your just starting out. He mentioned I have corrected him. I gave my opinion and yes I did say “I don’t know why people are suggesting IG” in that one thread because I really felt it wasn’t the best choice in that one situation. he did respond with answer and the user had the information he needed to make his choices. Now if he had sighted other instances where members suggested something different then I would not have felt it was referring to me. I do not however feel attacked. GW is not the type of person to attack others but I will back my opinions and suggestions when publicly questioned on them.
I suggested the socials IO IH and Ishine all of which cause comfort attraction and increased interaction with others. The AMMO was suggested not for social interaction but for increasing aggressiveness which in my opinion IG doesn’t do.
Saying one product is not the best choice for social interaction is not saying that it cant increase social interaction.
As I have stated many times on the forum. Any product can have sexual connotations when used in the right situation. I said " IG is sexy but not sexual" Sexy and sexual are two different things. In the instance of the member who wanted to spend the night in the “same bed” with his TG I felt ammo which is mildly arousing was a better choice for that. IG doesn’t have the same arousing power as AMMO. Yes its sexy and some women can be turned on by it but the product most likely to evoke that response is anone and there is arone in AMMO as well so it gives the best of both mones.
It has two human mones in it arone and a undisclosed mone.
Yes it has sexy characteristics but not the momentum to push it to sexual and on a introverted person they need the push of a social comforting mone to take it from sexy to sexual.
Renny I think you have touched on it perfectly. Thank you for your description.
So for those wondering, I don’t have a problem with GW or any other member on this forum. I have no ideal if he has a problem with me, I would hope that if he did he would contact me on that. He has never indicated before now that he has. This is not a argument its a debate from two experienced members who have a different perspective on a product. Debate is healthy and informative. My statement about stepping down is simply because I do not want to disservice the members or Androtics. It is because I respect his opinion that I made that statement and if that is felt it would cause me to rethink my mission here.
The only disservice you’d ever do the members or Androtics would be if you “stepped down.” You’re a wealth of valuable information, and I’m not just talking about pheromones.
I thought your mission here was to consistantly offer terrrific advice and be blazingly sexy. You mean its something else?
All I ask is, for the sake of GW’s wife, please don’t turn him into a salamander.
Thanks for understanding, Tisha. You are correct that this is not a personal vendetta, but a desire to find some understanding of the distribution of responses to this product.
You put incredible amounts of time into the forum and guiding new members. This and your moderator position give your views a lot of influence. It may also make you seem like a target at times, for instance when I quoted only your differing perspective.
It appears from the poll responses so far that some users are reporting in consistent with yor perspective, and some with mine. We shouldn’t be surprised to find some sort of multi-modal distribution of effects, as is common with pheromones. I hope we’ll get more responses and be able to get somewhat of an idea of the distribution. Unfortunately this is not a scientific poll and the respondents are self-selected, but it may help to give us some ideas.
On the lack of courtesy in my quoting, I extend my apologies. Quoting someone is always problematic, and the quoter has to strike a balance between conveying the complete context and not completely losing the reader’s attention. In my original post I tried to give complete context by providing links directly after the quote to the thread in which the quote occurred.
Thanks for all your good work on this forum. I think of you as a companion on our collective search for understanding of all these compounds.
Yes I realize being moderator puts me in the position to influence which is why I put so much effort into my responses to the new members and really try to get a good feel for what they are saying as well as what they are reluctant to say to strangers on a forum.
It has made me a major target over the last few weeks especially. I am getting it from both ends today the male side and the female side. But that go’s with the territory. The moderator is the buffer between the administration and the members. Sometimes its hard to maintain balance.
I agree and I am sorry if I came off overly defensive. IG needs more data. I never meant to imply you were wrong in your findings. I hope you have a better understanding of why I posted the response to those two members now. I know I have a better understanding of your view and on IG in general. When you post to every intro on a 24 hour time line you sometimes cant delve as deep into a subject as much as you want and I could have been more clear on some of my responses.
Scorpiious, as you can see from our little debate here there is no right answer. Each of us have to experiment within the confines of our own social skills and personalities to find what works best. I’ve used two sprays of IG pretty consistently at times and it’s easy to go 3 days or more without seeing anything unusual. Yes, you can try 3 sprays or 4 sprays. You can try AMMO and A314 and even IJ. Don’t be afraid to try whatever it takes to find what works best for you.
Most importantly have faith in yourself. You, and the way you interact with the world, more than any pheromones product, will determine how much “out of the ordinary” stuff you’ll find. A couple of sprays of IG or anything else here will give you an interesting pheromone signal. Let that be a small step on your way to being an interesting person. Pheromones can help you get there, but you have to do the work. Don’t worry, the journey is a lot of fun.
Go bond!