Right now, I am wearing it, along with 2xA314 and 2xIS. I feel a bit more relaxed than when I wear A314 + IS alone. I haven’t tried p75 alone yet, but it should be interesting. I have to try it alone at bars and see what happens…
Most of the experienced users here believe so, based on their experiences with it.
Olfact did a test, also Jas said it wasn’t.
I guess the best way is to test it out yourself.
It is a p-series. Of course, Jas is not going to tell you what it is. She isn’t going to say it is not anone when it is, nor she is going to say it is, when it isn’t. It is for US to find out 
Actually, she did.
yeah, but Steve objected to it in some other post. So you never know
Are you serious dude?
I respect Steve, but are you just being hard headed to prove what point?
If someone who looks at the formulas and KNOWS about them tells you then why the heck would you even be led to believe it isn’t.
I’m not going to quote Steve without the actual posts but in our conversations he always tells me what he believes they are, and he doesn’t actually know if it is that.
I personally don’t think they want us to find out what it is. No matter what putative it is it would skew our perception of it forever if we were to call it the close cousin of enone. I hate to bring it up again but many of us including myself have indulged in buying and testing P75 because of the very fact that we give strong inclination to it being a enone “replacement” or “relative”. I will say in my views there is no replacements for anything. I know people rave about P130 and hell must be a wonderful putative to achieve such coveted words from all users alike it seems. Does something like this make TAA or MEO or Anol obsolete? Every molecule has its place and its quite unnerving to me every time someone tries to go beyond compare/ contrast with it. An orange is an orange. A tangerine is a tangerine. Its okay to try to find likenesses and differences between them but to try to find which one is “better” or “ultimate” seems like a flawed notion as research is all about the intricacies of the info and not perceptual bias.
It is NOT a fact but of the users who have talked about it briefly they say it has A-1 type of effect to whatever likeness/ degree and honestly from perceptions by myself and others P75 is way too much of a dark horse to promote comfort anything like that. Ktrain has remarked on the dark energy and even Catlord himself has remarked on P75 being akin to the fixed water sign Scorpio. Scorpio is Anything but comfortable. It is passionate and probably the most sexual horoscope in a certain light although Leo and Aries can also be very “physical” as well.
With the whole impurity aspect + different methods of chemical synthesis it is probable that you won’t be able to find a identical match between 2 specimens. Just to mention as far as what I can recall there are 2 EX listed companies that use A-none in their formulas. Problem is that neither one will sell you the stuff raw or in chemset form so its really not conducive to your curiosity. In the end I’m sure AD knows what A-none does and it would be a moot point for us to figure it out. Whatever putative it is if found would just glorify it if not famous already and put it on a absolute pedestal if it already is a famous putative.
even if they know what it is, they probably wouldn’t tell us.
not until they conclusively know what that specific putative does
We would be completely quiet on it rather than lie to you.
AD is not in the business of being liars. If Jasmin said P75 isn’t a-none then it is not a-none.
And no, I’m not giving you P75’s chemical name*
- it defeats the purpose
Gotcha. I know they wouldn’t lie. Also, who knows? P75 was -anone a few years ago, but after many posted about it, someone at AD could have switched things around I don’t blame them though; this allows for more candid blind testing
P51, I never said steve VEHEMENTLY denied someone saying p95 is not a-none. Also I know steve said he highly believes what certain products are. He and DJ have done extensive testings, and a few years ago, p75 acted like a-none. Again that was a few years ago. Something else could have replaced it now. Don’t try make it sound like I said something that was definitive, because nothing from human being really is.
I really doubt that they would switch it. That just seems like something that would cause confusion.
I’m sure that any company that focused on research wouldn’t switch a product to keep people from guessing. It would confuse the research.
I don’t know what P75. I don’t know what P130 is either. But I do feel that they are sometimes very opposite in feel. I love them both because they allow me to alter how I am perceived easily. Unfortunately during testing we are going to do some comparisons. That’s how people think and learn. We tend to compare the known with the unknown to categorize it.
Actually I’m surprised that no one has developed a chart of putative categories as it seems that some mones create similar responses.
I wore P75 tonight with P74, p79, and p83 to a soccer game in DC. P75 seems to hold some kind of power that keeps everyone at bay. No one bumped into me no matter how crowded the area was. I always got a ft of space. My best friends wife gave me IOI’s and I have never seen her do that before. I’m sure they mean absolutely nothing, because the thought would sicken both of us, but subconsciously she was hair flipping and adjusting clothes. I also noticed that whenever I wear P75 the hits are more focused. I only get IOI’s when I’m actually looking at someone. If I stop looking at them the IOI’s go away. There was one woman that kept looking over at me even to the point of looking around a guy. When I finally noticed her, she started hair play and adjusting her clothing. When I stopped she started watching me again. When I looked at her the hair play and clothing adjusting started again. It’s weird because even though she was looking at me, I don’t think she knew it.
What the hell do you want when someone who knows the formulary for this stuff said that ITS NOT ANDROSTANONE. How much more proof can you possibly need. Its plain stupid for you to even suggest otherwise. And to even say that its a false statement that Jas said, would be to say that the whole AD research project is a scam. Seriously, I’m telling you the facts, and no conjectures. I don’t get why you have to keep going one with well maybe, you’re pretty much calling Jasmin a liar. Seriously cmon now, lets take a step back and really look at it.
And also, if I’m wrong, i’ll man up to it. I’ve been wrong PLENTY of times and people have put me in my place. There’s no need to drag it on even further with more BS crap about how things were “A few years ago”
I am not calling anyone a liar. If I thought AD was “tricking” me or something, I would have stopped posting and buying things from them months ago. I know they do things legitly and have best interest for their customers. Androtics is probably one of the top five online stores there is with a top customer service. Definitely, the BEST mone dealer in the world. PERIOD.
This is why I even let my pals use AD products and promote them.
Everything I am stating is a CONJECTURE based on what I have read and seen. Of course, there is A LOT of room to be wrong.
Anyways, Jas made her quote less than a half year ago. Other members tested p75 a few years ago. A lot of things could have changed in that time span. For instance, a–none could have been replaced with something else. Does it matter? No, since we are not suppose to know what P series are all about anyway. Researchers, medical and scientific, do this all the time. It gets more accurate, non-biased, reliable results.
Also, p130 could be TAA, a-nol or something else in p series we already know much about. You never know. It could be just re-numbered because the synthesizer has changed or purity of that product isn’t quiet the “SAME.”
Go back and read my posts carefully. I never implied that anyone lied or did anything wrong. That is a big assumption you are making. It is okay. I tutor people in SAT and MCAT type of stuff sometimes, and I see students inferring stuff that is not stated in passages ALL THE TIME - even top ivy league grads. Their pre-conceived notions or assumptions are utilized.
In short, p75 could have been a-none many years ago. Now, it might not be. The molecule could have been replaced. Maybe or maybe not. However, it doesn’t matter, because it only improves blind testing.
Or it could just be that Steve and DJ are wrong. There is something that I learned a long time ago. It’s called Occam’s Razor. It states that the simplest answer is usually the correct one. I have found that it applies to most things in life. Swapping molecules doesn’t sound like the simplest answer.
Also be aware that AD does use what JS is calling designer molecules. So some of these things that we are testing could be named putatives, unnamed putatives, refined named and unnamed putatives, or even something that doesn’t exist.
Let’s not limit our thinking when we test these things. If we limit a thought to this must be (insert molecule name), we limit the range of results that we expect. For instance if you say that P130 is just a mood enhancer like TAA then you miss out on the bonding hits, the disinhibitor hits, and the self talk. Because you are just looking for it to enhance moods.
I don’t get it,
John and Jasmin said SPECIFICALLY that P130 is a NEW molecule. What else is there.
You know what, there is obviously no reasoning with you so I’m not going to bother. But don’t confuse others with what you think, and have stated proof that is contrary to what you’re saying.
maybe, they said it. I don’t know. I don’t read every post from everyone. I read whenever I am online and have time. if i am wrong and you corrected it, that is fine. I am glad you did, because I consider myself a philosopher (a lover of truth). If not, that is fine too. I only stated my CONJECTURE - not fact .