Putative 75
Lowest range of effect – 0.5 mcgs
Optimal range for me – 0.75-1.25 mcgs
Point at which self effects start to become negative for me – 3.75-5 mcgs
Highest range of application – 15-18 mcgs
Potential OD – In a Androstenone sense certainly not. I’ve worn 10 mcgs a couple times going out and I don’t really see anyone exhibit signs of ghosting or avoidance or potential fear. I’ve had some odd reactions at those levels from women but I really can’t even delve into comprehending that.
I’ve worn P75 a lot in the past but many of those times I’ve paired it with Androstenone to some degree. Lately I’ve been wearing P75 solo while having recollections of past incidences worthy of note. I’ve often had incidences where I feel much resolve seemingly(but not really) having a inner confidence and not being swayed by anything. In other words that seemingly implausible alpha male that is unscathed by any occurrence and untouchable within the realm of sensibilities. Remarkably so a decent majority of people here have claimed this to be a masculine that is the brother of Androstenone. Now I won’t deny P75 being a masculine but its route of action is essentially different. Where a signature of Androstenone or A314 can/does exhibit physiological alterations through body language, P75 engages you through your consciousness. No masculine signature I have ever worn forces me to be representative of what its projecting. With P75 though it’s a smart, amorphous little fella that works its way into what I consider the most integral aspect of ourselves that decides whether we fail or succeed in light of what we attempt to accomplish. Its our Jiminy Cricket that holds our destiny in hand with a range of being absolutely limited to being nearly limitless in what we can achieve. Like its been said before in the very simplistic sense P75 inhibits negative self talk.
The feeling I get with P75 is akin to when I’ve hit a certain threshold with alcohol drinking. I’ve never truly liked alcohol because even though it relaxes me and to a certain extent makes me more laid back and free it does it to me in a very forceful way. Although my serious attitude and stiffness towards social interaction is quite lessened and dissolved I LOSE my own connection to my rich inner life. For me personally I need social interaction like I need Sunlight. Every human needs sunlight to live to satisfy some of their Vitamin D needs but relatively you only need up to maybe 20 minutes of it or so. As a introvert social excursions are draining so most of the time I live in my head. Only another introvert can truly understand what I mean and why we are like this. It isn’t to say that I stop thinking when I use P75 its just that my curiosity/creativity goes into hibernation mode. I attribute that to P75 being a “clean slate” pheromone giving you the plausibility of steering the ship with no distractions whether imagined or real. At first I wanted to call it a emotional inhibitor or even better yet a consciousness inhibitor of some kind but neither are politically correct given what it does for me. Emotions can still be felt and conscious awareness of judgment or reaction is still apparent. P75 is more that of a consciousness regulator.
What Im trying to say is that a evil person that doesn’t think hes doing anything wrong will ultimately be more dangerous than a person who may be evil and does evil things but knows within his own mind that hes committing evil acts. Its this dark energy and presence of apathy which P75 invokes that bridges the huge gap between evil whom believes their in the right and Evil whom knows/ acknowledges their doing wrong. At my overdose range (10+ mcgs) I become very Neanderthal like. My eyes become my absolute main sense of analyzing and discerning information as my eyes darted around in anticipation very frequently. My alertness level was considerably high (I was driving a lot during these OD apps and was totally focused on all the traffic around me even while at a red light). I wonder if this is how a primordial homosapien felt during those times. The fact of the matter is that I’m an avid over thinker who actually talks to himself and gives himself feedback and when I wear P75 at a certain mcg level it just all stops. I realize now why I loved P75 earlier in the year. It allowed me to hide from my pain, anxiety, and insecurities but the caveat to that was I hid from my own self as a result. I get rid of the bad stuff but as a result I dismiss my personality and all the quirks I love about myself.
This correlates to this excerpt from Tacitus
this is funny but it happens… we discussed years ago… your limbic mind is imagining that there is some huge aggressive uber dude lurking around… even though the mones are on your body, your brainstem doesn’t know that, only your prefrontal cortex does… the mones have bypassed your conscious outer layers of mental functioning ( P75 is pretty wicked stuff… I’ve found that tiny qtys. are more than adequate)… you’re transported back to cave man days… it’s like your cave man mind came home and found somebody had just taken a 30 lb. dump next to your sleep shelf…
Some people say that P75 is an attractant of sorts. I’ve experienced some degree of attraction with P75 but I don’t completely agree that its actual attractant by nature. To me it acts as a precursor that in a sense “firms” you up making you more desirable as a result. The only way I can explain what I just said is that I used to love picking mangoes off my 3-4 huge trees in Miami as a child. Finding one that was a larger than average was always a great find although there was always a particular mango I loved to find. It was the mango where the hues of red/yellow/orange was just perfect and there were no black spot imperfections or parts eaten by insects/flys/birds. These weren’t impossible to find but quite rare. You could say that I could’ve picked the larger mangos early and let them ripe within the protection of my home but they don’t ripen the same way as you can tell with mangos picked too early when you see them sold during off season periods.
People say that P75 makes them aggressive. In all my uses of P75 solo whether in low amounts or higher amounts I don’t discern any amount of aggression in my demeanor whether acknowledged or not. The feeling is nothing like when I use –none. Aggression exhibited from androstenone can be tamed and kept under control through self discipline and using buffers even when using high quantities of it. I can’t explain why sometimes I have “perceived intimidation” from others with P75 but even that hasn’t been consistent with my results and when I have gone a lot higher and been around a different crowd of people noone seems to be bowing down to my social power like when I wear androstenone based mixes. Dominance compliance is a no go with P75 because its obvious that P75 is great a wingman but he’ll never be the leader of the pack.
AndrostAnone
This molecule has always been famously elusive considering it shares all the letters of the probably the most conveted phero of all yet spanning all the way back many years theres not much relevant info on it coming from anyone in the form of reports/results/conjecture.
Dosage range I’ve used – 2.5-15 mcgs
Optimal range in past experience – 6.5-7.5 mcgs
Potentiality for Overdose – I’ve tried it at 15 mcgs in two runs and 10 mcgs in 6 other runs and haven’t experienced any problems doing so. I’ve even had multiple respraying throughout the day on several occasions and no problems there either.
Androstanone in my uses of it has a fairly strong masculinity. It lends to my sense of well-being and my masculinity seems incorrigible (this isn’t to say A-none gives me confidence its more to say that normally I’m not comfortable in my own masculinity and this helps me maintain a firm stance as a man) over my duration of use. I’ve gotten attention from a good amount of ladies and had some subtle flirting from girls without any coaxing on my part. Theres also a degree of comfort that comes with wearing A-none but only affects women from what I’ve seen. It has no apparent aggression from what I’ve grasped although it affords a decent degree of respect from other men without demanding dominance compliance. Its odd but I’ve quite a few isolated incidences where men would greet me on the street and I’ve had women in certain instances trying to help me out to make things go smoother. The positive results I get from women are not so in your face like with androstenone but it certainly leveled the demographic quite a bit (instead of getting a couple strong hits I get a fair amount more of softer hits). All in all I’m in a good mood while using A-none as it brightens me a little and I’m not so reserved about sharing a smile with a lovely looking women. (all women are lovely in their own way no matter what age they are)
Reading a short post from user Gone with the Wind has stated that A-none is comforting without any intimidation. He also said that it has similarities with Androsterone and A-1. I find all of this true although the comfort aspect IMO is noone near as strong as A-1 at the right doses but does not cause any ill effect on men, which is something I really admire. It is reminiscent of Rone although I’ve never been able to wear rone by itself with good results as it needs to be a part of a ensemble of mones to make it shine in my experience. I’ve intentionally OD’ed on androstenone with doses of 15-20 mcgs unbuffered applied to neck and under my nose. I applied 7.5 mcgs of A-none later on and it dialed back the negative aggression I was feeling immensely. I really do love this as a standalone but I can’t wait to start mixing with it.
Conclusion: P75 and A-none are completely different animals. Optimal dosage for both of these are worlds apart (In my case about 1 mcg for P75 and 6.5-7.5 for A-none) and so far up to 15 mcgs of A-none virtually no OD so far and if there is a OD level I wouldn’t be surprised if it was in the mid 20’s while I start to get negative feedback from P75 around 7-8 mcgs. Main self effect of P75 is a consciousness regulator (It doesn’t promote or negate positive or negative thoughts it’s a neutron, it’s a astral plain between heaven and hell, figure of speech but you get the picture). That is what I learned from high doses of P75. A-none is a masculine absent of aggression yet lacks that sexual undercurrent. It can potentially attract women’s attention and comfort them at the same time and is also reminiscent of the accommodations people afford you when wearing A314. I won’t go and call A-none a masculine social hybrid but some subtle qualities of A-none that I haven’t discerned yet give that impression. P75 is great as an additive but I will dial back my usage from now on. I even have a batch of P75 oil laced with EoW that I was using for a while. I gave some to Radman but I doubt he ever intends to touch it. Anone is not the be all end all masculine but I think it will be a great alternative to androstenone for me. If you’re a fan of the constant sexual tension that Enone provides A-none is probably not for you.
I wrote this simply to point out the obvious error I’ve seen on the forum as of late. A lot of people have been referring to Putative 75 as AndrostAnone. The only real problem I find with that conjecture is that most of these users have never even used an A-none based product. How would they know what A-none’s effects are if they’ve never even knowingly used it themselves before. A lot of people have read and speculated but that seems to be all there is on P75 being A-none. Jasmin has also said in another post that P75 is not A-none. Since I expect people to question my source of A-none I will say this. A senior member on Pherotalk has confirmed that the A-none chemset from LS is the real deal the provider being Phil Stone himself.
Sorry for the book. I’m sure a lot of people will be deterred by my huge run on paragraphs haha.
