Well, since this is the men’s side of the forum, I hope there are at least some ladies who pop in now and then.
I have a couple questions for the ladies.
Knowing guys are out there using pheromones, which we know by reading here is actively going on… does it bother you that we’re, for lack of a better way of putting it: “trying to steer your unconscious mind”?
If you recognized that it was actively going on where you were with you as the “target”, how would you then (at that moment) perceive the situation? How would you respond?
Same question, but instead of you being “target”, it’s one of your female friends?
I realize this might be a bit of a one-sided survey since the women here probably use them for similar reasons as the men… ok, maybe not exactly the same reasons, but let’s just assume it’s all and only about popularity for the sake of my argument. I’m just wondering how women feel when it comes to using mind-altering or maybe just mood-altering “tricks” on them.
Not a lady either but I don’t think they mind us wearing pheros.
Pheros don’t make them do anything it is jsut like wearing a super nice cologne or being well groomed etc. So basically is 10% pheros 90% everything else. I don’t see why they would mind.
But hey let the ladies come here and tell us themselves!
Nope it dosnt bother me probably because I wear them to. I dont think it would bother me even if I didnt wear them. There will be a few women who dont really understand how mones work that may be offended though but for the most part we understand enhancement of ones self because as women we do it all the time. Wonder bras, false eye lashes, makeup which can mask more then you know, ect ect.
No one will know unless you tell them or they use androtics mones and recoginize the neroli scent. I would probably react with interest in the subject of mones though since being a girl we are always looking for ways to enhance ourselves. Its hard to say since I use them to. I have certain friends who know I wear them and they at first thought it was just another wacky tisha thing. They have seen them work though and now they have a interest in them to but no one was offended or anything.
Wouldnt bother me a bit.
As I mentioned above women having been using tricks to enhance ourselves and influence men from the beginning of time. Cleopatra used her own copulins as a aphrodisiac. Women have been wearing make up and enticing scents for centuries. We get boob jobs, have wonder bras the list go’s on and on all to influence men.
Mones are no differnt then any other method used to enhance ourselves.
I guess that makes sense… turnabout is fair play! I didn’t consider how make-up or boob jobs are an equal attempt to increase a woman’s visibility and sex appeal through a kind of deception. I suppose it depends on whether a woman who found out understood that it could be equated with those same things or if she unfairly and incorrectly equated them to drugs meant to take advantage like GHB or ruhipnol. In fact, since we already produce and secrete pheromones, I guess we could even consider what we do as less deceptive as artificial enhancements like make-up.
It’s really hard to answer that question as a pro-pheromone person. Perhaps the question would be best posed to people who have no knowledge of the pheromone properties and effects.
Having said that. Personally, I think I would be flattered that someone would be going to so much trouble to attract my attention <sigh>. When you get to my age, it just doesnt happen quite as often..
Women would rather a man try to be nice, look well-groomed and make an attempt at making the best of what he already has - if that means wearing pheros, then so be it.
The pheros just give a person an edge, I dont feel that is manipulative at all. Any more than a guy buying a certain type of car or jacket, or whatever to feel more attractive.
If you are lucky enough to get with your target, the pheromones arent going to have the relationship with them, YOU are. Then it is all up to you. No deception there.
Well Tisha, I agree with most everything you said, as usual. And up until several years ago, I would have agreed with everything you said. But, on the boob job issue I’m going to disagree, just to an extent though:
I have known a number of absolutely gorgeous women who have had or wanted boob jobs. A couple of them could literally have any man they wanted, and 2 were happily married.
Whenever I hear a woman say they want to get a boob job I always tell them they are gorgeous just the way they are and don’t need change anything about themselves, then I ask why they would even want to.
Well, the only women that ever said it had anything to do with attracting men, and actually had a valid point (at least somewhat), said she wanted a boob job because that’s the first thing a man notices about a woman.
Most of the other women have said that they wanted to get boob jobs to feel better about themselves.
I knew one girl who went from probably an A cup to a B cup. She asked me if I noticed anything different about her, and I really didn’t. Then she told me she got a boob job, and I still really didn’t see the difference. I told her that I always thought she was hot anyway, and that I never thought she needed bigger boobs. She said that she got the boob job for herself because she used to hate looking at herself in the mirror.
So yeah, while I’m sure some (or a lot) of women get boob jobs to impress men, I also believe that many women want or get them for their own self-esteem.
Now back to the phero question, I agree with everything that’s been said. Men know women do things to impress us, and we appreciate them for it. And, women know we do things to impress them too.
I think if your told a woman that you got a new cologne because you thought she would like it or cause you wanted her to like you, she would appreciate it. Of course if you phrased it that you got a new pheromone to coax her into bed, that probably wouldn’t go over so well.
Snort Think of it this way Mark, If boobs didnt impress men would they up our self esteem ? Nope because it would be just like any other part of the body. If guys were impressed with big knees we would get implants there and claim its for self esteem. (snort)
So in a round about way Yes its ups are self esteem but only because men like boobs
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