20 y/o in college… me and two friends are doing a mini study on artificial pheromones to help identify there validity… ive been reading threads for a while now and decided we will have to test it ourselves…
scientifically: yes humans produce natural pheromones… however we lack the ability (the organ in the nasal cavity) to detect these pheromones… the come off as smells and nothing more… scientifically … so… let see
is science wrong.. or are most mearly experiencign a placebo… thinking that the pheros are helping women talk to you..?? or maybe your just less timid and more confident now with them… which women are attracted too
anyways im looking for advise on a first buy… ill be picking up travel sized bottles for now… im 20 y/o caucasian 5’9" 160 lbs… im an outgoing conversation starter guy already… were looking for improvements lol…
as for our direction… i dunno… looking to spark a conversation starter to a drooling on our shoulders want us effect lol… (just being honest)
what would you recommend… i think i can get the convo started… keeping it interesting and getting them excited and aroused i guess is what we are shooting to see…
so what types? and dosage? ty
AHH the great VNO organ debate, We are very familar with it. It is still being studied so I would not say science is wrong only that they have not come to a conclusion as of yet. It also depends on where your getting your science from.
I suggest you read the studies and abstracts section of the forum there are plenty of studies conducted in various universities that have proven the existance and funtionality of pheromones.
Also here in Pheromone theory, Lots of good stuff by JVKohl
Also for your mini project I would look up the studies by Dr. Winifred Cutler on the effect of copulins on men. In short it has been medically proven that exposure to copulins raise mens testosterone by 130 to 150% in 15 minutes of exposure. This medically proves that yes pheromones do exist and enter the brain from the nasal cavity.
I suggest for products that you start out with something like IO and ammo. IO is easy to see the effects with.
That’s not totally true. Yes, while the VNO may be nonfunctional, mones are still a powerful factor in human communication. How? They’re processed through the olfactory system. You may wanta bone up on JVK’s book, SOE. It lays out the facts and scientific studies in laymen’s terms. You may want to also study some of the articles and research on the 'net:
Get A314, Put 7 drops on your neck and wrists and see what happens.
People will literally jump out of your path and girls will succumb like butter. It made me the president of my pledge class, get in the top fraternity, and get with blondes I always thought hated me (man i was delusional back then).
No joke man, try the shit. If its really placebo, then GREAT. At least something good is coming out of it.
It is OK to be skeptical - we all were once - but VNO or know MANY of us here can tell you pheromones are real and they have real effects. sometimes really startling ones.
Tisha gave you some good advice with products.You could also consider Instant Gentleman or maybe IH (instead or in addition to IO) if you are pretty good at starting conversations. IH will help take the conversations deeper and create a feeling of connection with others. Many of the women on this forum have said that this efeeling of connection with their men is what makes them more inclined to … romance.
Tisha also forgot to mention that if you post this same basic info in the Intro section she will send you a $15.00 gift certificate you can use towards your first purchase. I know every dollar counts in college.
Before I tried pheros I was skeptical as well… I thought they were psychological boosters and helped the wearer daredo things he didn’t dare to do before…
So I tried pheros changing nothing in my behavior.
Many people here say that your behavior is the biggest part. I’d say you just have to not behave in a bad way,that’s all.Don’t counterpart pheros,that’s all.
I keep saying that even though behavior is important, one must see the difference between good behavior and good behavior + pheros.
Depending on your phero signature and situations, some product will work better than others. Try A314 and you’ll see how well it works. Instant Openness results arenotalways easy to recognise.
I was yet another skeptic before this phorum (play on words). However, pheromones are somewhere in the equation. Why? Well one time in my dormitory (where we have communal showers) my roommate came in from taking a shower. I smelled his natural pheromones, not another scent or anything, and they smelled pretty good. Now I am not attracted to him or any men period and me and him have been roommates for 3 years, and friends for 6, but I thought, if it smells good to me, then what would it be like for a woman?
Go with the IO and Ishine in the to-go size. They are like $10 or $15 bucks each and you get 40 sprays in each which is more then enough to see what you think. Then when you are feeling a bit amazed LOL come on back and get the A314.
I would go with Instant Honesty, the effects are amazing, many many times when I’ve used it just to probe the work atmosphere, I stumbled with many people telling you very personal things (really personal if you know what I mean) and then realizing and asking themselves why did they told you that.
My first choice was A314 (a sure winner), but maybe a bit too much for your research.
Whether a science is right or wrong is often relative…what we accept as a science is ultimately limited by how much we, as a society, understand about the subject at hand. How many times in history have we, as a society, accepted certain ideas and concepts to be an absolute ‘science’ only to be disproven as we’ve expanded our understanding of the world around us?
The point is, we shouldn’t discount the role of pheromones in human interactions simply because the mainstream scientific community isn’t willing to accept such as ‘science’…yet
BBJ, the reason you see a lot of different numbers is because everyone is different, everyones situation is different, and everyone has different personal desires for what they want to accomplish.
I know you want to have all the great experiences right away, we all do. There is really only one way to get there…one product at a time. Pick one…I think IO is agood one to try. Start out with whatever…4 sprays IO is pretty safe. Tommorrow cut back to 2 sprays, then one, then three, back to four. Find the level that works best for you. Then go on to the next. AMMO and TUTH you should start with one spray because they contain -none. Have fun, talk to people, do things well DO THINGS with other people. That’s what works best. It won’t take long and you’ll be mixing and matching and you’ll know what you are doing.
