Hi People
I have become very interested in Pheromones as well as “seduction manuals” in an effort to win the lady of my dreams whom I have worked with closely for 9 months and wish to make my wife someday. She is a very stubborn “hard sell” and sometimes enjoys making my life miserable by keeping me at arms length as a “friend” grrr! She has admitted to finding me “good looking” and we spend all our breaks together. But I am hitting a wall and things are moving way too slowly. I even told her (finally) that I loved her and she threatened me with a sexual harassment complaint, but after I pulled away from her and avoided her for a few days, she reeled me back in. I hope to find some help here (and the one manual I have so far, “Double your Dating”, has some good stuff too).
I am an Orthodox Christian, so I am not interested in a fling or a “shack-up” as marriage is our only option. I hope that doesn’t turn anyone off or stop anyone from talking to me here.
I will appreciate all advice from you more experienced users. Thanks!
Hello. Let me welcome you to the forum. As you are looking for advice from experienced users I will leave that to them. I haven’t even received my first order yet.
I will tell you that you should post a thread in the new users section. Tell everyone a little about yourself, age, location, goals for pheromones etc., and you can earn yourself a $15 gift certificate.
Also, while you’re here in the forum read the stickies. They contain a plethora of useful knowledge and are a staple if you do decide to purchase pheromones.
that’s quite an intro. i’m not sure if you are writing a script for an episode for jerry springer or if you are being serious.
having read your intro a second time, i think i will either be seeing you on the springer show or reading about your “relationship” in the papers.
either way i wish you luck, i’m not sure pheros or double your dating will help you in the way you wish but who knows, this is life and stranger things have happened.
i would be glad to give my advice once you provide me with your birthdate
day ,month ,year ,and if known ,time of birth ,and place of birth .
both yours,and your lady’s date of birth
This sounds pretty alarming…
Have you ever been on dates together?
How did she reel you back in?
She just came looking for me when I was avoiding her. As of right now, you’d never know there had been a problem. No we hadn’t been on any dates but we spend all our breaks together and work together closely as a custodial team. In other words, were together 8 hours a night.
I’m sorry to say it, but I’m with Butterfly here.
You say she sometimes keeps you at arms length as a “friend”, but has she ever done anything to indicate that you are more than a friend?
You also say she admitted to finding you “good looking” Did you ask her, or was it something she offered without prompting? Many people, both men and women, if asked a question of those sorts would reply with the answer the other wanted to hear. I.E., ever had a woman ask you if she “looked fat”?
To me, from the limited information provided, it sounds to me like she sees you as a co-worker and somebody that makes her feel good about herself, and is maybe even willing to flirt a little to get that self-esteem boost, but is more than willing to slap you down when you show any sign of wanting to escalate the relationship beyond a pleasant workplace friendship.
Obviously none of us know enough about your situation with her to say for sure what’s going to happen or where things might lead. But, that she’s had 9 months to form and solidify her opinion of and feelings toward you, and you feel that you are hitting a wall in trying to move things forward. It sounds to me like she has placed you in the friend zone and sees you only as a co-worker companion. The threat of a sexual harassment complaint for pouring out your feelings to her I think sends a pretty strong message that she’s drawn a line in the sand.
Pheros and seduction tactics may help some, but I don’t believe either will reverse the attitude and feelings she’s formed for you over the last 9 months. Pheros may allow her to lower any inhibitions a bit and ladylike resistance she is projecting, but I don’t know that the use of seduction tactics is going to be all that helpful in your situation.
You seem like a real gentleman with strong religious convictions. I wish you the best of luck with her, but am worried that you two might not be playing on the same field. Whether things work out with her or not though, the use of pheros and reading of seduction materials can definitely enhance your life.
Thanks Mark. Like that “group” profile pic btw 
This right here should be enough to quell your interest. This sort of threat isn’t anything a woman in her right mind would make to a man she was interested in in any capacity. If I were a man, I would have dropped her completely after that.
Perhaps a change of scenery isn’t out of the question, or you can request to your boss that you change teams up. that ought to at least reduce the hold she has on you. If it will happen then it will and changing things won’t change that. let her feel what it’s like to be without you. Also what’s her religious convictions (if any) that usually plays a big part.
I can sympathize since I am in sort of the same situation (not a work though) and forcibly distancing myself sort of works. though so far only on myself not on her.
good luck
Thank you, and you are welcome. I know I didn’t really tell you what you wanted to hear, but I tried to offer my realistic take on the situation, and I don’t feel it’s right or fair to cuddle anybody and give them a false sense of hope.
I could be wrong and everything could work out just the way you want with her, and that would be awesome, but I honestly don’t have a good feeling about that happening.
I also have one more thought as well: Is it at all possible that you could be reading more into the relationship than whats there, not because you’re really in love with her, but more because you are in love with the idea of being in love?
“In her right mind” is a good point too. I have always thought she had “issues”. She’s a beautiful woman who has chosen to remain single for years. Thanks for your feedback.
She does indeed have a hold on me and it sucks. She’s quite the bully. I did, in fact, think about changing to a different run there, and there are quite a few openings to choose from. It would be a hard choice though because I have a pretty sweet deal where I am (aside from her lol). Thanks for the input buddy.
What I needed to hear is more important than what I wanted to hear. No, I have been happy being alone for years at a time, but then someone comes along who just rocks my world, and then I feel miserable if I can’t have her lol. I guess it would be best to get out of this mess with some self respect left. Thanks again Mark.
imo marriage between two people is just a piece of paper, the union/compatibility between them on a physical&spiritual level(what most would call love?), is what makes life fascinating, not fighting for custody or assets.
i think god, whoever he is, whatever it is, made us human, to enjoy one another’s presence, be happy, pursue high quality of life for us and the ones around us, and make the world a better place.. not talking full scale, just something more realistic, on a smaller scale: our world.
There isn’t much for me to say that Mark didn’t, but since you mentioned “Double your Dating”, some memories came back..
One of the things that struck me when i first read it(btw, taught me alot.) some years ago, was realizing how “gentle” and wuss i was, the clingy type.. You all know it. The phrase that stuck on my mind was “give her the gift of missing you”. If you throw yourself at her, and it’s not mutual.. You look just like the regular Joe Pervert..
My opinion is, in order to “win” you have to “conquer”.. and that, must be done with some strategy. Only thing is, this strategy has to come from within. It can be learnt, but you have to be very receptive, and let the preconceptions aside, aren’t doing any good. That though, may be a result of my believes, not valid for you or anyone else.
I wish you all the best in the phero-land, and this attraction business, it’s really fulfilling when you “get it” and read “them” like an open book.
Good luck on your next steps, whatever you decide to do next.. And yeah, self respect is the key, in whatever goal you pursue.
It may be a little late for you, but as a general tip to the gents; leave talk of love, sex, marriage and so on for after you have a steady relationship outside of work. Sure, there is little chance of rejection when you have coffee together at work, but all that makes you is a well known colleague, not a personal friend or romantic potential. Unless you are taking her on dates, you cannot really do anything that takes things above the platonic level, for those things are inappropriate at work. This means that you can either just be the guy at work, or you can be the creepy guy at work. So ask her out within the first few weeks if you want something more.
Thanks to all