Measuring pheromones

Alright this might be a stupid question already covered but still..

I have been checking out this mix

ICM 0.25.1b
TAA 4 mcg per spray
Beta Androstenol 5 mcg per spray
P93 3 mcg per spray
P74 5 mcg per spray
P83 5 mcg per spray

And i’m planning on getting the pheros for it to try it out so i’m wondering how the mixing should be done?
I mean you can’t order 4 Mcg of TAA or 3 MCG of P93.. So how do i mix theese to the right ammount and what tool should i use when i mix it?

Cheers m8s

What a some of us do is purchase 30 ml bottles of the various products at 30 mcg strength. That way 1 ml is 1 mcg and you just put all this i an old 30 ml blue bottle you have cleaned out well.

How you do it - some use pipettes. I use a graduated medicine dropper.

alright this might be just me math failing but as you count the pheros per spray.. Isn’t 1 ml of a 30 mcg per spray still 30 mcg per spray?

That would be correct, I hate math but I went over it in detail somewhere in here. There is a few posts on this with calculations. Look at posts by Dancingjoker. You can do a search on them or when I get home from work I will look them up for yiu and provide the links here.

Tisha

Thanks tisha your an angel

btw this Daningjoker guy does not seem to exist :S

hmm well i could not find any other posts on this topic :S Maybe im just a bad searcher..

Any1 here good at maths?

Alright sorry for spamming this thread but i did some calcualtions myself and well.. I’m wondering if this could be right.-

As you all know this is how many Mcg:s of each pheromone i should get from one spray

TAA 4 mcg per spray
Beta Androstenol 5 mcg per spray
P93 3 mcg per spray
P74 5 mcg per spray
P83 5 mcg per spray

Alright so if i’m mixing in

TAA 20 mcg per spray
Beta Androstenol 25 mcg per spray
P93 15 mcg per spray
P74 25 mcg per spray
P83 25 mcg per spray

in 1:1:1:1:1 rations.. Will it be the same then?

Okay - I am getting lost in the math now … lol.

Its Dancing Joker - look in the mens journals - he has one there.

Yes it is still 30 mcg in 1 ml but when you put in x ml of each component (at a 30 mcg concentration) each spray should come out with the right proportion of the mix, right?

Dancing Joker’s posts on mixing math…

Thank you Nbully, http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/11/11_7_100.gif I was getting ready to start searching LOL

Reps :wink:

Tisha

http://www.smileycentral.com/sig.jsp?pc=ZSzeb096&pp=ZKxdm021NUUS

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THAT IS EXACTLY RIGHT.

I like to make a table like this – it makes more complex mixes easier to manipulate:

dose ph conc spray 5x ml

4mcg TAA 20mcg 1/5 01 06
5mcg Bet 25mcg 1/5 01 06
3mcg P93 15mcg 1/5 01 06
5mcg P74 25mcg 1/5 01 06
5mcg P83 25mcg 1/5 01 06

xxxx xxx xxxxx 001 05 30

This text editor makes it impossible to create a nice looking chart no matter which font you use. Damnit! :angry:

The first column is the dose.

The second column is the pheromone.

The third column is the cocentration of the bottle I’m mixing from.

The fourth column is the theoretical number of sprays of concentrate per dose. The column four total is the number of sprays of the mix per dose.

The fifth column is the number of theoretical sprays of concentrate per five doses. Why five? You have to complete column four before doing column five. Five doses is like a common denominator and gives you whole numbers easy to work with. If you had a column four with 1/5 and 1/10, you might use 10 doses for column five. I typically run into 1/2 and 1/4 in column four so I use 4 doses for column five.

You have to complete column five before doing column 6. Column six values are a multiple of the column five values. Here they are each six times the value in column five. Using six times gives you 30ml total which is the size of a regular spray bottle. If you wanted to make two bottles then you would use a multiple of 12 to create column six and the total would be 60. For a 5ml togo bottle you’d use a multiple of one and column five and six would have the same numbers.

But remember a togo spray is 5/6 or .833 times the size of a regular spray. The total of column four gives you 1 spray per dose. You’d have to adjust that to 1.20 sprays per dose if you pour it into a togo bottle. Of course, if your concentrates are from togo bottles, it will all work out and you’ll have to recalculate in the opposite direction if you pour it into a 30ml spray bottle (i.e. the 30ml bottle dose would become 5/6 of a spray).