I have been trying to understand. I am a woman who have/is in image conscious professions (Pageants, NFL Cheerleader, Modeling). Not saying that to boast at all, but I just want to give my background. Women say that I’m pretty, but men don’t notice me at all.
It’s ridiculous. When I’m out, I see other women (regardless of age, size/shape or attractiveness) get male attention. But with me, the literally turn the other way when I walk by. I’ve been feeling so unattractive, unsexy and plain invisible.
Do you guys or girls honestly think that I may be lacking pheromones? Are there any women who are attractive, but get no male attention?
Regardless of the attention that you get/do not get from men - you need to feel good about yourself. I know it’s easy to say but don’t allow other people influence how you feel about yourself… not unless they are going to make you feel better about yourself!
In my opinion, it’s all about your internal state. You need to be able to look at a man and show him that you believe in yourself. That you are confident, sexy and attractive. Believe me, if you believe it - they will too. You want to be able to look at a man and think that his ass is yours. Still let him do the work if you want - allow him approach you - but always remember that you are worthy of his attention.
This may sound a bit crazy but it works…
Imagine what it would feel like to have a man’s undivided attention? How would you walk, talk and act if you believed you were attractive and sexy? etc… These sort of visualisation exercises are great.
Thank you for your reply and advise. It is kinda like the forest and tree analogy. How can you feel beautiful if no one notices? Even if someone is gorgeous, if no one thinks she is, what’s the point. The reason why a diamond is so valuable is the value WE place upon it. As beautiful as it is, if we didn’t value it, then wheres the value?
You’re right, I have been feeling unattractive internally. That may have something to do with it. I will try the visualization.
But does anyone think that my issue is due to lack of pheromones?
Is it pheromones or the lack of? I don’t think so. Most women I know boil themselves red and raw in scalding hot baths twice a day, stripping off all traces of their natural pheromone output. They then subjugate their natural scent under perfume, lotions and potions before they even leave the house in the morning.
There would be thousands if not hundreds of thousands of women with your problem in that case.
There are so many possible variables that could be in play, I couldn’t possibly list them all. But lets start with your social circle. Is it limited? Are you seeing the same men day after day, week after week with no change? If so, they already have a good idea of the type of person you are and that will influence how they act around you.
A change of scenery may be all that you need.
Or are you seeing thousands walking past you on the street every day? Do you attempt to interact with anyone or do you keep yourself to yourself? Men see thousands of women we may consider attractive on the street every day. We don’t automatically chase after every woman we see or there would be chaos on the streets.
I dont think your lacking in pheromones its just the particular pheromones you may produce that are playing a part in whats happening. Of course its not pheromones alone that cause communication and attraction so its just part of the picture.
My guess is you have a strong dominant leader natural signature. That can be intimidating to some men especially if your pretty. Pretty girls often get passed over simply because men dont thnk they have a chance with them and the ones who do hit are usually PUA’s or creepy guys.
I would use some soft mones like IS/B or TAH. Also some comfort mones that create pull like Ishine or IO.
If you on the pill you are probably lacking in copulins because the pill prevent ovulation but you can pick those up over at Love scent.
Another piece of advice is check your own body language. Make sure its open friendly and receptive. There are lots of books on this and sites on google just type in “Body language” Body language ad pheromones are two way we communicate with others before we ever verbally say a word. We can naturally read these cues without consciously thinking about it.
So you dont want to just ask yourself is my mones signature off you want to know what it is your saying with your body.
Thank you all for your valuable input! I was hoping that it was just my pheromone levels because that would be an easy fix.
Tisha23, no - I’m not on the pill at all. In fact, I’m hoping to meet someone to eventually have a child. I’m also not a leader type at all. I’m not a strong, dominant type woman. I’ve come to the conclusion that there is something about other women that I may not have.
It’s weird, on online sites, men approach quite a bit. At one time, I was literally getting 50 + emails a day (my pics are true to life, pic in mirror photos - no glamour shots.lol). But in person, men seem to hate me.
MuskCloud- I’m now a travel writer so I change scenery all of the time.
Craddlerobber (lol at the name), I really don’t think that I’m too attractive.hahaha Though I wish that were the reason. I see beautiful and not so being hit on all of the time.
I’m going to order some pheromones to see if that is the reason.
I totally get where you’re coming from, invisiblegirl. I feel invisible much of the time. I don’t get it, because I often have quite a bit of self confidence. When I was younger (early-mid 20s) I used to get a lot of overtly sexual attention from men in public, but it was mostly from creepers so it was rather unpleasant.
I had pretty low self-esteem at that time, although I didn’t realize it. Now I’m approaching late 30s and have a lot more personal confidence, and I very rarely get creeper attention. I think that has a lot to do with the fact that I am older and also have much better boundaries and a solid sense of who I am.
I never catch anyone looking my way more than once, other than children who are noticing me because of my clothing or shoes (quirky fashion is my thing.)
I’m off the market, so it’s not a huge deal - but it’s always a nice boost when you sense that someone might be thinking you’re attractive.
I think you are mistaking ‘intimidation’ for ‘repulsion’. So basically you aren’t repulsive - you are quite the opposite, probably guys think you are a 9 or 10 and ‘out of their league’ - they are most likely concerned they will be rejected.
Yea there are a lot of guys who don’t want to be caught looking at gorgeous women and usually think rejection will be way worse then it is(or that itd happen in the first place) and theres too many “nice guys” who just tell themselves that you MUST be taken already. But that still wouldn’t explain not getting hits from the other guys. Hmmm. I mean now that I can read body language better that helps me decide who to talk to and who to not talk to. Like a waitress who sat down to talk to me, but her whole lower half was facing away from me…I knew not to waste my time.
Maybe give everyone details on how you walk into a room, how you stand or sit, and let people nitpick it??
I dont mean strong and dominant in your behavoir I mean in your pheromone signature. Your profession does speak to you being a leader though. A go getter, a motivated and driven individual. There is nothing wrong with that. That coupled with a strong dominant signature can put some men off and others into feeling like they are out of your league.
I dont believe your repulsive at all. Maybe a little scary but not repulsive. When I say scary I dont mean creepy scary or mean scary. Its more of a awed type fear response.
Did you know Angelina Jolie has the same problem. You would never think it but she scares the shit out of men. So they avoid her, dont make eye contact, keep a distance and it leaves her always having to be the pursuer. Luckly she has no problem with that LOL.
Basically you mistaking fear for hate. If they hated you they wouldnt avoid you or not see you. It would show in there body language and behavoir towards you. So far what you have described is not hate its fear.
Ahhh the curse of being a beautiful successful women.
Like I mentioned before softening and warming your signature should help some.
Body language is very important. It constitutes more the 50% of what we say and conveys to others things about ourselves before we ever meet. Pheromones are just 10% to 20 % of that equasion. Thats why I mentioned it earlier. I often have people say to me when coaching things like “people dont include me in there conversations, they think I am stupid” Then I sit back and observe them and its not that peoples think they are stupid, its there body language. They display unattentive, uninterested closed body language so people direct there conversations somewhere else. A few quick practiced changes and suddenly they are the center of the conversation.
How would you try and get a guy interested in you? How do you flirt? How do you express interest? How do you engage others? Do you notice your body language?
Mones will definitely help you. Even if your phero-signature wasn’t the problem, mones act like a social learning accelerant to the point that it will teach you about yourself and others if you let it. Self effects from some mones (alpha androstenol for instance) can make you more outgoing and open as well as spurring other people to conversation. Many people who are resistant to alcohol and caffeine also get diminished results from mones.
I’ve never tried cops, but most women seem to think well of them. But they need a cover scent. The thing is; while mones can make you more approachable, they’re best viewed like spice to a meal rather than the main course. For me at least, they act on relationships which already exist. But they don’t cause people to just approach me off the street. Whatever people feel, people still need a reason to justify their actions and feelings. So if your actions are somehow shutting people down, mones will not replace that. Perhaps you’ll have an easier time of things since you’re female and men are more likely to initiate things.
Mones can certainly raise your profile and get people who already talk to you to notice you. They work especially well if you’re exposed to someone every day for several weeks. Some effects of mones, negative and positive, are most clearly seen the day after you use them and people have had the time to process their new emotions.
Wow! Thank you for such a informative and comprehensive response! I will work to change my body language to be more open. I didn’t know so much was place on body language. And you know, people DON’T include me in conversations or ignore me altogether at times. So, THANK YOU!
What type of a coach are you? I want your number!lol Do you do over the phone sessions?
That does help! Pheromones are like a spice and not the main meal - love that! I am just hearing about them, so all of your input is very interesting. So, they basically help raise your confidence and mood, which in turn attracts more people to you. That sounds good to me. Thanks again!
There are well over a dozen pheromone molecules known to be socially useful in some way (and counting) with varying, sometimes oddly specific, effects. And many are gendered, affecting men and women differently. Often, the effects of one need to be balanced against another. Some induce arousal. Some signal health. Some intimidate. Some can inspire jealousy or a very exclusive form of attraction. And some do exactly what you describe, both to yourself and others.
This is very interesting stuff! Had no idea! I guess on some subconscious level, I may have known because though it’s my first time hearing about it - it seems familiar.
True on a subconscious level we all know. We are just so verbally inclined it happens sort of in the background.
If you think of it…
Baby’s bond with there parents even though they cant see clearly or speak pheromonally.
Animals generally know when a human is scared because we emit a certain pheromone. The scream doesn’t tip them off LOL
Fear is often contagious partly due to pheromones.
So is laughter and crying. Every see someone cry just because some else is or laugh because someone else is ?
Women who spend lots of time together usually develop synchronized periods this occurs partly because of pheromonal cues.
When we are around people who are upbeat, happy, hopeful we tend to begin to feel those feelings as well because there pheromones trigger a neurological response.
Same with being around someone who is sad mean depressed and negative. They tend to drain you and you feel crappy.
There are so many everyday examples that are so subtle we just dont take notice.
It really is fun and productive in so many other ways other then attraction to use mones. They really do enhance your life and interaction with others. Just get started with some of the ones I mentioned and then you can move onto the single putative that help steer responses in different directions.
Be sure to get your $25 GC in the intro section.
If you start a journal and report your results in the women section above or even report here in the regular women’s section you will become a “reporting user” and get really big discounts on the advanced stuff to.
No worries before you no it you will have to change your name to Visablegirl
You are a wealth of information! So much information, I don’t know where to start!lol It’s interesting that you mention sad and depressed. That may be a factor too. It does seem like there is an occasion where I’m happy, men are kinder to me (people in general). What’s also interesting is that men were kinder to me after I spent 5 hours in cheerleading/dance practice. Maybe it was the pheromones?
I would like to know you all’s experiences with the pheromones? Why did you purchase them in the first place? Has your life improved?
Well I have been using them for 20 years now. Except back when I started there wasn’t very good products available to use.
I noticed them when I went to a naughty nightie party my friend was giving at her house. The sales lady had samples of pure instinct and some other one I cant remember the name of. It was weak anol basically. I used them on and off for a few years and did see mild results.
I am married and things were getting sort of overly settled… stale . My mother always said if you want to keep your man keep him on his toes (thus the naughty nightie parties LOL) I am always looking for things to keep our relationship fresh and exciting so I looked deeper into pheromones and started over at Love scent before AD opened. Then AD opened and I just fell in love with them. So many possibilities. I kinda lurked for a long time in the background of the forum but the people in this forum are so great I fell in love with the forum as well. Plus I am a bit of a science geek so I had to find out more about all the possiblities with mones and how they can help others.
Anywhoo… Yes I would say they have really enhanced my life. Not just my relationship with my husband but at work and with friends as well. I have seen them do some amazing things. Its not amazing everyday but when conditions are right they can really blow you mind.
Now that I am so familiar with them and what and how they do what they do I can adapt what I wear for any situation really to enhance and improve the experience. Its almost like learning another language. Once you understand whats being said it opens you eyes to a whole new world.
