My bf found out i use pheros

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I’ve told my friends about my new interest in pheromones, but the one person I didn’t want finding out was my boyfriend. I think it defeats the purpose. Maybe not but anyway, I’m always on this site when I’m at his house. I also have been wearing a variety of scents recently, and always carry a tub of lotion. One night I went to bed and I vaguely remember having a conversation with him when I was half asleep, he was asking me something and all I remember him saying is “what’s in it?” and I said “Androstenol…its in the lotion.” That’s all I remember. The next day I asked him if I talk in my sleep and he said sometimes. I asked him what I said and he said something about sleep. That makes no sense to me but I let it go. Yesterday we were watching Frasier, and Ros was telling Daphane that she was wearing a perfume that contained pheromones. My boyfriend turned around and looked at me with some weird smirk. I’m not a hundred percent sure that he knows but ah whatever.

I don’t even put androstenol or whatever it’s called in my lotion. But I put eow in it :stuck_out_tongue: I was considering it though, may be more costly. Does anyway know the difference between regular anol or beta?

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Alpha Androstenol is used in Instant Openness and it allows for more chattiness and quantity of communication. Beta is used in Instant Honesty and it enchances the quality of communication, allowing you to feel more connected to the person you’re talking to.

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You really should have found a way to keep it secret. But then, hindsight is 20/20.

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My boyfriendknows now…I had to much wine on the weekend…but I dont care, I dont use it all the time around him AND there are so many different pheros that he wont be able to guess which one I am using thus the desired effect can still be reached.

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Well Yummy, my man found out too - after a weird experience with MX256.

Anyway, will he know if you are wearing or not? Or tell him you have run out. They usually forget anyway…

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I would not worry about it too much if he has not been angry or upset because - and this is a BIG generalization but I think - from reading here, general attitudes, etc. - that “finding out” that your partner is using pheromones seems to bother women more so than men.

Why: I hope no one takes this wrong but:

Women seem to be looking for sincerity and genuineness in men more so then the other way around as they usually want to know a guy is who he says/portrays himself to be ESPECIALLY if they are going to get into a relationship with a guy (intimacy, etc.) because they want to know to know the guy really cares about them (usually) and is not just looking for sex plus its a matter of personal safety. Not too many women serial killers. So for a lot of women guys using pheromones seems to be a big flashing warning sign that they are not necessarily what they appear to be which could possibly spell danger at several different levels - emotional to physical.

Guys on the other hand are used to telling the occassional, er, stretch of truth in order to either get sex or keep a relationship humming along (Hot blond with big boobs dressed like a tramp - didn’t notice her honey - I was checking out the Harley … honest). Plus we expect women to use make-up, perfume, jewelry, push-up bras, etc. so we just tack pheromones under that heading when you use them.

Personally I would find it flattering but that is me.

Uhhh - forget what? Its not our anniversary again is it?

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That’s true there are so many different kinds, and most people just think it’s to add sexiness. They wouldn’t expect it to do anything else, and so it can still have the desired effect…again I am not a hundred percent sure he knows or how much, dang it he’s being so mysterious.

gee who would have thought I tell my secrets in my sleep=(

And yeah I think it might be a little harder for a women to trust a guy if he wore pheromones than visa versa, depending on which ones.

Does androstenol have any attraction qualities rather than communicative ones?

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If you mean on a sexual basis, no. However talking can lead to closeness which can lead etc…(blah bla bla sry :stuck_out_tongue:)

If you are asking thiswondeirng if your bf looks it up, he may have trouble spellying it and not getting lead to other similarly named pheromones..:frowning:

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I think I can agree with this for the most part. Also, I think maybe women are naturally in the mindset that they’re the only ones allowed to mess with people’s heads. Also, finding out that your true love wears pheros can mentally take some of the romance out of whole thing. She’ll start to wonder if you’re compensating for something. Which you are, compensating for natural pheros washed off every day so you can be clean for her . . . but probably no use trying to explaining that logically while she’s freaking out.

For guys, most of us are so unused to be pursued that if we find out an attractive female that we rather like is taking extra steps to target us and be attractive, it can be very flattering. Even for those who are used to being pursued, that sure is a great feeling for a guy.

You must remember, women are pursued ALL THE TIME. Maybe that’s why they like to imagine that there is a level playing field where they are in control.

Haha. I hope I don’t get flamed for posting this on the women’s forum. Just my perspective, and you’re free to correct me. Not trying to offend any of you girls.

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Dang it, I guess I’m gonna have to wire up a remote microphone in smell_yummy’s bedroom now, to go with the shower cam at Tisha’s place. :roll_eyes: :wink:

Level? Yeah if the field were tilted about 90% in our favor. :roll_eyes::smiley: Women have always had and always will have the upper hand when it comes to dating and mating. :frowning: :smiley:

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Hah! Yeah, well I meant “level” among all her pursuers. In my experience, that’s what a girl likes to see. Or to at least imagine she sees. All guys are equally beneath her. :cool:

Disclaimer: I am about 75% joking here.

A girl needs to feel like she’s losing control. That’s what falling in love is, after all–a loss of control. But she needs to be able to ascribe that feeling to a man as a person. To natural chemistry rather than to lab-formulated chemistry.

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I agree with you there. to keep the level playing field even, we ladies have to maintain a certain level of unpredictablily and guys like that. Men on the other hand like the challenges.

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I’m more worried people will think I’m nuts if they found out I spray chemicals on my body to alter my image. It would be like me saying “I like meditation/trance” or “I practice Neuro-Linguistic Programming/hypnosis”. This is Florida, after all, not California. People are not very open- too busy stuck in their sad little $8/hr jobs, too much science fiction for them. I mean, I once argued with somebody who told me there were “NO” human pheromones and I was looney for believing that, even after I pointed out I just heard on the news a study about male sweat and menstrual cycles (I guess he doesn’t watch the news).

I think the only reason I’d be angry about somebody using pheros around me, is if the person were generally “evil”. I’m reluctant to use that word, but there are a few people it does apply to in this world, people who think only about themselves and don’t care how many people they hurt to get what they want.

Everybody is exerting pressure on you. Pheros are just one way. It’s a persons responsibility to use rationality and not trust their feelings. If you haven’t heard of Renee Descartes, he was a French philosopher/mathematician who, among other things, had the “demon” analogy. Each of us could just be souls in a jar, and our senses could be nothing more than a tricky little devil chanting to us his lies, so the only thing we can fully trust is our reasoning, hence his basis for all further knowledge cogito ergo sum, “I think therefore I am”- our ability to reason is the source of all our knowledge in this philosophical system (Rationalism, as oppossed to Empiricism, the philosophy than only what can be observed is real. There are philosophies, of course, that are a compromise between these two extremes, but the extremes frame the boundary of the debate). Think of it as “the Matrix”, and you get the idea. Be sceptical, or don’t be, it’s your choice.

I happen to believe deception is not inherently evil, some people are not ready for the truth. Little lies don’t necessarily hurt people. I’m a utilitarian moreso than a deontologist- the greatest good for the greatest number, respecting everybody’s interests. If people get happy from a lie, it doesn’t hurt anybody and could be considered a “good”.
I could also talk about Plato’s Cave of Allegory, some people are trapped in a cave, some escape and see the light and go back and talk about it, but the people are not believed. Even if they could come out, they would be blinded. So some people are better off staying in the cave and comming out slowly, under the guidance of people who have left the cave.

OK, enough philosophy for today…

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My TG also found out I use pheros also but I just shrug it off and pretend I don’t know what he is talking about. Also all the instant lines I have smell the same so he doesn’t know which one i am using for different effects which I think will throw him off. Also I have been looking to cover the scent so he doesn’t know I have them on.

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Yeah that’s what I did when my bf gave me a smirk, I just kept a blank face. I took of all the labels off my togos and labeled the bottom IS, IO, and ISA with a permanent marker. I keep all the full sized bottles and labeled stuff at home. I’m pretty sure women wouldn’t have too much problem with men wearing pheros, it’s just something like Turn up th Heat can sometimes be a bit strong. Although my guyfriend wants to try it so I’m getting him one. But it might lead a girl to think that a guy wearing that was trying to get sex everywhere he went.

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Ahahaha… yees it might be more interesting if it was more talking and less snoring comming from me. :frowning:

Uh oh…I don’t know what happened to my last post

But basically I took off all the labels from my togos and wrote IO, IS, and ISA on the bottom, and leave everything else at home. I bring my lotion which he may or may not know there’s pheros in it, mostly eow.

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Well my husband knows but not really because we discussed it. For one he pays the pheromone bills LOL Plus I have so many bottles its not like I can hide them. He dosnt care that I use them as long as they make me happy he is happy LOL. Besides I have done far crazier things so he is used to it. I am sort of shall we say …unusual.

Quite a few of my friends now know and they also know I am unusual so it dosnt bother them either. Most of them want to try them to.

I suggest if your boyfriend confronts you on it shrug it off and tell him its just additives used to spice up your perfumes like aromatherapy. You dont have to go into detail about them with him unless you want to.

I really dont think people should act like its a deep dark secret that we all need to hide. If you treat it like that it becomes taboo. Treat it like you would any other normal beauty regiman you use to enhance yourself and they wont even notice.

Tisha

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I always wondered what would happened if I permanently moved in with my boyfriend or got married, I thought of even getting pheros shipped to my parents house, hehehe yeah I think I’m being extreme, and I should just treat it like a any other beauty regimen.

He super sprays himself with axe, and he does it very openly. I know it’s not the same thing :stuck_out_tongue: But I think he wants people to act the way they do in the axe commercials.

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I just explained it to my wife - when she finally showed some interest/curiousity - as something along the lines of aromatherapy designed to improve our life together. Which is true so …

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Reading this thread has me wondering if androstenol can affect sleep talking at all.