my first test! LAM + 5x cop uncented!

oooh ok, so last night I placed my second order cuz I received my $15 off certificate. I bought Turn up the heat and Instant Sexiness both in to go sizes. I just received my order of Lust After Me + 5x cop yesterday so this morning I tried it on for the first time! I didnt know how much to put on so I only used 1 drop and split it up into two, one each behind the ear and then the rest on my cleavage. This was just an initial test because I wasnt meeting up with the bf or anything, I was just going to Costco with my sister! I didnt notice any reactions from ANYONE so I’ve concluded that one drop just simply isnt enough! my Lust After Me has no added scent so it’s just the regular smell of Ylang Ylang which I have to note here that .. uh.. it really stinks! I donno how I will be able to handle 4-5 drops of it! I used Dior J’adore as the coverup perfume which didnt seem to mix together THAT well but it wasnt that bad either. any suggestions from anyone?

Hey Tiny! Glad you got your order. I would next try 2 drops, let it completely dry down(10-15 mins) and then I would add your perfume. Proper dry down helps with cover. I love putting a vanilla perfume oil (bodyshop is the brand I use) over the LAM (or in a spot close to the application point). I find this covers the LAM very well and I spell yummy all night :slight_smile:.
If you are wearing LAM in a public place like costco some of the responses you might see is extra assistance and attention (I had one of there workers running around doing my shopping and heavy lifting for me :smiley:…oh and he was already off shift :wink:)
Also you may see extra attention and glances from guys, or guys randomly saying hello and smileing for no reason. It can be quite fun :slight_smile:. Be patient and have fun. Also try 2 drops in more then one environment b4 you add a 3rd.
CC

You need a better test venue and how! Costco is full of jumbo sized food addicts, not loverboys. Try a real social situation, especially in a small enclosed space: BF in car, male coworkers in small office, restaurant booth with friends, etc. To work best, your target needs to be in your personal space–within 4 or 5 feet–and you need to spend a few minutes to let the pheromones sink in. Most of all, you need social interaction to validate their reactions. A total stranger in a mall may think “hot babe” but will not reveal their thoughts in a typical walk-by (social filters fully activated). A 10 minute conversation with a casual friend or suitor will be much more telling and as the mones will start to breakdown their social filters and allow real reactions to leak through.

Too true G !!!
Plus one of the factors in pheromones being effective is how pre-occupied the person(s) is/are. Mucho doses of pheros may not distract someone on a mission - especially “jumbo sized food addicts” (LOL, LOL).

Truth be told Tiny, I did exactly the same thing as you - and went to Costco, as a stop on the way, but still noting reactions.
I’m thinking a book store might be more fun. Or, the video store after 5pm when there are cute guys and hot DILFs hanging around.

PS. I’m noticing that LAM has really age-specific reactions. The older the man, the less LAM seems to get a reaction.
Please keep us posted on your LAM experiences…

Wow, really? Any thoughts on why this is, anyone?

Hmm, thats interesting, I didnt actually find this effect. I definetly have had great results with younger guys but I also have found older men attention to. I am going to go back and do some more LAM solo experimenting and see if I get less older male attention…

ok, my second test of LAM was last night when bf came over to have dinner.. the setting is this: brother in laws brother and family (which is his wife plus three kids) came to celebrate my nieces birthday, so all in all, there was, me, my daughter, my sister, brother in law, brother in laws brother and his family, my mom and then my bf… yeah there were a lot of people. This time I put on two drops of LAM, split one behind each ear, and then split one between the cleavage, armpits and then rest behind my neck… waited about 8 minutes (couldnt wait longer cuz bf came over already) then put on a coverup which was Bvlgari this time (one in the gold bottle) smells um.. pretty mature. (btw I’m 28, chinese, divorced, with one 3 year old) so afterwards I immediately went downstairs to greet the bf. he’s always been a pretty affectionate guy so he says, hi baby! and then hugs me and gives me a kiss. I say hi back, he then says hi to everyone else…and then we go to sit down on the couch. immediately he starts looking around and sniffing the air… so I say, whats wrong? he replies, what’s that smell? I say, what smell (trying to act dumb) he then says something smells weird.. and then, hehe cuz I was trying to get him to take a big whiff of the stuff, shoved my head into his face and said, I think it’s this new moisturizer I got for my hair…(remember I put some behind my neck? some of it is on my hair also…and it still smelled strongly) then guess what he said? “uh, I dont like it, it smells weird” !!! OMG he doesnt like the smell!! I’m totally devastated!!! I only put on 2 drops last night, I know normally I should be putting on 4-5.. but my bf doesnt like the smell, so what do I do?? I didnt notice anything different in the other four males which are my brother in law, his brother, and his two son (2 and 6mo) .. no one else seemed to notice the smell, or maybe they just didnt want to mention anything… I’m confused guys.. what do I do?? :confused:

Don’t panic! I am having a similar less-than-great response from my man w/the LAM.

Are you combining it with other things? Thankfully, you can get some really great advice from the heavy-hitters (both men & women) on how to use the mixes you have on hand to your advantage.

Personally, I have found better results with less cops, more shine…

Hey, anyone care to jump in?

The regular Lust After Me has ylang ylang added to it and lots of people don’t like ylang ylang (despite its rep as an aphrodisiac); some even find it nauseating. I find plain cops (EoW) easier to use and cover than LAM, and it’s because of that ylang ylang scent.

I gotta say LAM works but its really is smelly and Carrie is probably right and its the ylang ylang which I am not to fond of myself. Plus you bought it in 5X the cops, wheew LOL.

Keep in mind your BF knows your normal mone signature and he will react oddly at first as he gets used to the new one. Best to ease him into that because naturally your natural mone sig dosnt change over night. The first month that I used mones my husband at first didnt respond then about a week or so into using them he started acting strange and asking questions “like is that a new shirt ? or did you get your hair done ?” He would look at me like I had a boob growing out my forehead or something. He even asked a few times “whats that smell?” I didnt tell him what it was just said “I dont know”. He did finally respond though.

Also keep in mind that the smell of mones are secondary. The smell is not what causes the reaction its the molecule entering the nasal passage to the brain that causes the reaction. The thing you need to look at is if his behavior is different.

Try covering with different scents and just sticking with one drop at first and ease him into it.

Tisha

Try applying Lust after Me in advance by an hour or more. This will give the smell a chance to settle and meld with your own signature and scent. Lots of women including myself notice a better reaction hours later & even morning after with copulins.

My theory at the time was that because we were together for years already that he needed my phero signature and scent to react. I have no idea if that is correct or not, he still reacts better to copulins if I’ve been wearing long enough to mix with my own body scent.

I do agree with Carrie, eow is easier to use. Lust after Me makes me feel dirty & goopy if I apply a lot. Kind of gross getting all greased up to get laid. LOL

:frowning: is there anything I can do at this point with the stinky LAM? can i buy scented oils myself and add it to the LAM and mix them together? I’m disappointed by the bf’s initial reaction but will give it another go tonight…I understand it takes a while to get used to so I’m not about to give up yet! I’m hoping my second order comes in tomorrow or tuesday.. will try those in conjunction with LAM to see if there are any differences… tonight I will try 3 drops and place them on my body instead of behind the ear.. that scent really gets to me too so I dont want to place it too close to my nose… oh yes, this might be a dumb question but what is EoW? and how long do pheromones affects last? tonight I’m gonna put the LAM pn a hour before putting on my coverup perfume and seeing my BF!! :angry:

hmm my last post didnt show? I was asking if there was anything I can do to salvage the LAM + 5x cop I have now… can I buy any scented oils and mix them together myself? and what is EoW?

See - there is an example of the advice that is invaluable at this site.

Tisha. Reading your post really makes sense - keep trying, dont abandon something the first time.

Ok, so is that why strangers may react more quicly to a phero because they are not associating a person with a particular scent?

Plus it seems that women are having an easier time wearing LAM with like a target guy who they have not spent much time with versus someone who is very familiar (and we are trying to possibly re-ignite some interest).

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I would try some vanilla (after 15 min dry down of LAM) if you dont mind that scent and do apply LAM about an hour b4 meeting up with people.

Also I wouldnt reccomend using LAM with children around. Id say it is better when the 2 of you are out on a date or at a party or once your child is in bed.

I have personally found that LAM is best used on the side of the neck as opposed to right behind the ear AND on my chest not IN my cleavage. I find that behind the ear and in the cleavage doesnt allow for a proper dry down and I can smell the LAM for a couple hours after, and I dont like this.

I would nt mix a scent in the LAM bottle. I would work on proper dry down (I wrote earlier in this thread what I do for dry down and it works great.)

Also you have 5X cops, maybe try just one drop, you may find a great response being more subtle.

Have fun and dont lose hope! you will find the right mix. This product is a really fun one, I personally find it much easier to use and see results then with EoW.

I have had a mix of guys having positive responses. But for the more familiar boys to me, it did take a couple of wears around them…

Tisha is right. Keep experimenting. Sounds to me like you need a better cover scent. With cops the rule is: apply, let dry, then cover.

If your bf is also Chinese, try some social pheromones with your cops. (I noticed that asian guys got somewhat fascinated, yet a bit skittish when I wore heavy cops around them. Like at my local Thai and Vietnamese restaurants, the waiters hung around my booth or table, and I could catch them staring, but when I addressed one of them directly, I got a rather nervous reaction.)

Also, people who already know you have preconceived ideas about you and use shortcut ways of relating to you. I’ve never heard of anything that could change that in just one day. It takes time to change perceptions and build your reputation as an irresistible seductrix.

Best!
Kitten

First try to cover with different scented oils and see if that works.I use pink sugar oil and other oils from all over the net. They are inexpensive and easy to use. Check out some oil roll ons here if you dont know where to get them, they are inexpensive and she does a great job.

Welcome to Earthen Treasures

Be sure your applying the correctly. Put them on wait 15 minutes so they can dry down a little then cover them. The time really makes a difference.

If you are still have problems then you can try adding a EO to the mix but it will dilute the mix. You have 5X the cops so it shouldnt dilute it to much. I would buy some small empty roll on bottles online

Take a few droppers full of LAM and then add a few DROPS of a EO or if you get a roll on scent from the store I listed above open that bottle and take a dropper full out and mix with a dropper full of that scent. You can always add more LAM if its to weak. But you want to use a seperate bottle for mixing and use small amounts in case it dosnt turn out right.

Tisha

Pheromones can last for 3 to 6 hours from what I’ve noticed. But copulins are different and stick around until I shower in my opinion. I hope applying an hour before you see your bf helped tinyjade.

hi Guys!!, thanks for all the great responses!! yesterday I tried the LAM for the third time, here’s what I did: went to the mall with sis and put 3 drops on this time… didnt have enough time to coverup because we had to leave so I just brought my perfume with me, this time I used a slightly fruity but extremely light perfume.. so in the car ride to the mall.. I asked my sister if she smelled anything (at this point the LAM has dried for about 10 min) she politely said yes and that it smelled like stinky feet. I laughed and said, sorry that’s my new hair product. She then kept joking about me smelling like feet for the whole car ride there… and then we get to the mall, I park and then sprayed on some perfume. it was windy yesterday at my area so I think that helped air me out a bit. I shopped at the mall for about an hour and a half… because my sister kpet telling me I STILL smelled like stinky feet I kept spraying on sample perfumes each chance I got. NOTHING covered the LAM up, NOTHING! Anyway, then we finished shopping and I went home because I had to immediatley change my clothes for a date with the BF. We were going to be out with friends last night so I was terrified that I would smell like stinky feet to them, so before I left my house I wiped myself down with a baby wipe… I THINK I still had traces of LAM on me left tho…we were out with ALL guys last night.. his friends are usually nice to be, nice but not too talkative. Last night 2 of the guy friends were more talkative than usual. I cant say it’s OVERLY talkative but just more than usual. still no reaction from the BF. we did have some pretty wild sex but that happens sometimes already anyway so I cant tell if the LAM affected anything…

alright.. so far I see a couple of advises.. CC said not to add anything to the LAM, and then Kitten said to add some social pheromones since I’m dealing with an Asian guy (which are social pheromones?) and then Tisha said to add EO to the LAM in a separate roll on bottle. haha I’m confused here.. but I guess my question would be, when I apply the coverup perfume or EO, can I put in RIGHT ON TOP of the LAM or do I have to avoid the same spot? so far I’ve only SPRAYED perfume on as a general coverup and not on the actual spot that I applied LAM to. I’m guessing that’s making a huge difference?? :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

Sorry that you havent been getting clear results, finding your sweet spot takes time and can get frusterating, however keep sticking it out and you will figure it out and it will be GREAT!

Sorry for the confusion, when I say dont add anything I mean dont add a scent directly to the bottle, if you dont like the scent afterwards, the whole LAM bottle can be ruined.

By all means add some socials WITH your LAM. Apply your LAM, let it dry down and then spray a pheromone with it. I often do this, to add a lil extra at times.

If you are going to add a scent, do it this way so that you dont waste too much LAM if you dont like how the two products mix.

With regards to placement, I usually put the perfume on the same spot OR right beside (some people don’t think that the cover scent should go directly on top)
Id reccomend getting some perfume oils as I find these cover LAM nicely. As well they are not over powering for people around you and I have gotten good responses to coconut and vanilla.

When I first started to use LAM I put it on and had to make a quick stop at a gf’s house. I had no cover scent, dry down had been about 15mins. I asked her to smell it, cuz all I smelt was stinky feet, she agreed lol. However when I got back to the car I added my coverscent and I had GREAT responses from guys all night, I even had ones tell me I smelt SOOO good.