I’ve bought IS and IO both in 1x strength. I started with 1 spray a day then started doing 2 a day til I got to 4 sprays a day and I never noticed any difference in myself or others, it was just nothing! If I have to spray more than 4 or 5 it just seems like a waste and is WAY too much scent to walk around with.
However, Ammo definitely works, it’s just the nols that fail.
I’ll be ordering again soon, should I ignore the nols or should I try 2x or even 3x strength? I was really looking forward to the nols so I’m really disappointed, felt like I’ve thrown my money away.
There is a huge importance placed upon expectations of pheromones. This many times seem to lead to people having great or poor results.
It is possible that the -nols and other brighteners don’t work well with your natural body chemistry, but I speculate that it most likely is a matter of what you are expecting to see from such chemicals.
The -nols are not going to get you to many hits, but people may talk to you longer, more often, or be a tad bit sillier in discussion. Of course that is for the alpha. With beta you should expect people to be more in depth, or even tell you more revealing parts of their personalities.
As for the Taa based IS, this one is very hard to detect direct results from. I myself rarely see hits or social cues from IS, but it certainly makes me more cheerful. People also seem to smile a bit more often.
Give them another shot, and make sure you are looking for the right things. Your results with brighteners will not be as obvious as those from sexual, manly, or aggressive type pheromones such as Ammunition.
Not all is lost, Vic. Ammo works, so lets try and troubleshoot the nols.
If you could give us more details, for example, were you in a bar, work area, home? People you were trying to effect etc. We’ll be in a better position to help once we know this.
People who know you well and who already have the measure of you will be more resistant to the subtle influence of the nols. Family members and work colleagues especially.
if it’s really that hard to notice any difference from nols, it makes me wonder if it’s worth spending $40-60 (which is way more in NZ dollars, plus another $60usd just for shipping!). For something with almost no effect it should be a lot cheaper. Ammo works great and is worth the price, but the nols are about the same price but you just don’t get the same quality results.
I’m a college student, just trying to make new friends.
I think you may just have trouble recognizing the reactions to it. The hits will differ from AMMO as Toil mentioned.
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They may not effect every single person you meet. Sometimes life just gets in the way and something else will hold there attention.
I actually get most of my best hits from the socials though. If you do reorder them get them in a higher dose. Keep in mind you need to be congruent with the mones.
For me, nols are better than almost everything else, except for Taa.
The results you get with nols are universal. It’s not like ammo where you are trying to attract women. Some men respond very poorly to ammo, but everybody seems to respond positively to nols.
If you are looking for friends, nols are the way to go. I think you are expecting to much from pheromones in general.
How much ammo do you wear? Do you wear it with the nols? Have you worn them seperately? It all matters. You could be noticing such profound results from ammunition because it has such a low OD level. You can always find results with ammo if wear enough, but they may not always be positive.
With nols you can wear a TON, and never get negative results (unless you don’t like strangers chatting you up)
The point is, the nols are friendly brighteners. They are important. Even ammo has alphanol in it. (that does not mean it’s a solid substitute for IO Its for a different purpose.)
I actually find it rather surprising that -nols do not work for you as I find -nols to be one of the MOST effective pheromone in terms of giving obvious results…without the negative effects from -none.
I usually wear 1-3 sprays of ammo on my neck, even 1 spray can get hits. I don’t wear Ammo for any other reason, I know what it’s for.
I know you can’t OD on nols, but the scent IS strong if you wear 4 or 5 sprays. I don’t want to walk around with such a strong scent just for the nols to work. Thats why I’m thinking of trying a higher strength, if I do decide to try again.
I always spray around my neck. Sometimes I spray both Ammo and the nols, sometimes just IO, sometimes just IS, sometimes both IO and IS and sometimes all 3 in the same day. I’ve tried all different combinations together and alone for each, from 1 to 4 sprays. Never noticed any difference with any nols, no matter how many sprays.
I read that thread months ago before I ordered so I knew not to expect too much, but compared to -none, I feel ripped off with the nols.
Try different application points, Perhaps the nols are not diffusing from you neck well enough plus if you spread out the sprays more the scent will not be as strong . Forearms, Back of neck, Hair ect ect Sometimes its just a matter of where you apply it.
If I wear both nols and none I don’t spray them in the same spot. 4 spots on my neck: front, back and the sides. Is it wise to spray them in your hair though?
Nols are fine in the hair, You lose alot of heat from the head, plus your hair moves when you move on most cuts so it helps to diffuse them better. Anone products are to sticky for hair so dont use those there.
Hi there, I have tried the instant openess and Honesty in my work environment and found that it does increase the chattyness, but very subtly, I found my workers would stand and talk longer than before. Now maybe it was just a few more sentences and such but they seemed to want to stay and talk as opposed to really becoming overly talkative. It was very interesting. My staff ranges in age from 20 thru 48. All females.
I tried it when I got a massage from my massage therapist, while it didn’t make her more chatty or talkative she seemed to take more time and paid more attention to the massage. I felt she wanted to stick around longer than before and did more detail work as opposed to the standard type. She has massaged me many times before so this was out of character for her. (She is a body builder 5’3" and 151 lbs. 17" arms) I think the effects at least for me are that people will stay around longer and talk more when engaged. But it doesn’t make them excessively talkative. ( I use 1 spray of honesty and 1 spray of openess back of neck area.
I used about 5 or 6 sprays of IO at a party but it really had no effect on anyone. It was mainly me talking, people just listened. Only had 1 spray of ammo so I don’t think I scared anyone.
I find it does the same to me, and this means it actually IS working.
how?
Self effects!
you become more chattier yourself, with time people will become more chattier with you too. But you need to be open first for anyone to respond, and this is the hidden power of Instant Openness - it helps you to be more willing to talk to people, and once you are open with them will lead them to become open with you.