ok it has been 3 weeks now, and in past 3 weeks i have been around allot of ladies and parties and other stuff! i have tried different mixes.. i used all these products,
IH, IO, TUTH, alpha314, IJ, IS, CTTM . no results but headache
I have been using them in high doses.. example: i put 2 drops of Alpha314 with 2 spray of IJ, when i dont see any results then i add 2 more spray of IS and 2 spray of IH and 2-3 CTTM and 1-2 spray of TUTH…
i used less and i used more… not sure if it is snake oil or it just doesnt work for me… but when first i heard about pheros… I was soo excited that i read this forum every nite til 3am until my first order arrived. and i orded 7 products for my first order. : i feel like a rippoff… i wish there is a way they work i really need this.
Like people said you have to do 90% of the work. Its not magic you know. Plus body language has to do alotof it…if you are constanly looking down and cant make eye contact with someone…why would they approach you. Have you tried approaching the woman first?
It really is best to start with one product at a time and start with a small amount and work your way up. You have been having the same problem that most of us do when we first get started. It is so exciting that we all tend to overdose right out of the gate. Patience is definitely a virtue when it comes to starting with pheros.
For example, with A314 try wearing one drop spread across the front of your neck for a few days. Just relax and go about your day trying not to be too focused on the pheromones. Then up the dose to one drop on either side of your neck, etc.
Because we all have different body chemistries, working with pheromones is very much an art and not a science. Hang in there and be patient. We’ve been there and we are here to help each other.
IJ with A314 makes you very hard to approach. If you are adding in TUTH to that, its a little rediculous. You have seen effects, you have seen the effects of people ignoring the signal your sending out or you are possibly even ODing. Ij and A314 both have somewhat serious sides, and combining them when your trying to be social probably didn’t get the effects you were hoping for.
Seriously, try one product at a time until you realize what it does. Stuff like TUTH and IJ need to be used in the right environment. Hell, all products have a right environment.
I felt like you till I saw my first really blatant hit. Then I realized all the smaller hits I thought I had. I also have noticed some pretty great self-effects, but I know not everyone gets them.
I think I know the type of effect you are looking for, more attention. Start with CTTM2 that should help in that area alot!
You can skip “effects of mixing” because your not there yet. We want you to use just one product. The more you can tell us about your experience and the behavior of those around you the more clues it will give us as to what is happening.
You mention you are using them in high doses. Why ? More is not better its just more.
Now I can already see the mistake your making with mixing.
A314 and IJ, So you going for the well respected jerk vibe. Two opposites like that can caused mixed signals and just confuse people. How much time did you give it before you moved to adding all the other stuff ?
You used CTTM and IH. They do not go together well. CTTM is 50/50 anol and bnol. Using IH which is primarily Bnol is over kill. It throws the ratio of CTTM off. You dont need them both. Adding TUTH and 2 sprays at that. TUTH is primarily anone, so is IJ and A314 has some as well. Your anone ratio is way to high.
You mention you really want this to work, well we want to help you get it working but you have to start like we told you. No mixing or layering. Once you know the dosage that works for you for one product you move to the next and do the same thing for each one. Learn about each product, get a feel for it then you will be able to mix and match. Do not go hog wild just spraying everything on because your not seeing the effect you want right out of the gate.
yea alot of the members here have already said it but;
1 start with one at a time
2 learn what exactly is in each product and what the ingredients do. thats one of ur main problems because theres no reason to wear ij and tuth together.
3 be social pheromones will do nothing for u if ur not putting in the effort to change and be someone women want to talk to.
4 learn what ioi’s look like, women are WAY more steathly then men so study body language and keep eye contact dont look down like most men tend to when around women they fancy.
THEY WILL HELP, keyword being help not ( do everything for me ) … its not like u go out wearing tuth and women strip there clothes off and say “take me”.
but when ur wearing the right amount in the correct environments bars etc the hits will be obvious.
and when it happens you’ll be a believer lol
actually when it happens youll probably start overdosing again like i did. but dont …keep using an amount that u find congruent with ur body
type and it will work be patient.
p.s. lol wear cttm as ur main one - u seem like u want people to be aware of u and give u attention a314 will make people intimidated and very overly polite when they actually do speak, so if ur wearing it at a party it will make it so u have more space and do the opposite a shy person would want it to, if ur not shy and ur going for 10s then its great but someone who is shy and expects others to begin the convo should wear cttm or spaceland or instant shine.
and leave a314 at home, or wear it on ur upper lip i find one drop gives me a huge confidence / arrogance which will help u fight approach anxiety. but honestly u should just leave it at home for partys bars etc if ur not social to begin with. and watch ur none levels ur doing over kill with the ij and tuth together and waisting good product at that.
good luck - have patience and do a lil reading around the forum for knowledge on how different mones work.
As Tisha mentioned, you need to test these products one at a time to gauge their effects and effective dosage range that works for you. It’s always best to start low and work your way up to where you start seeing good results. Every person and situation is different, and you need to determine what works best for you, not what works for others. In other words, you need to calibrate yourself to optimize the effects for you, just as you would, for example, calibrate a scale to zero it before using it, or align the lenses on a telescope to reach optimal focus.
Also, please provide more information about how you’re testing the products as well. Information such as test environment, surroundings, proximity, duration, personal interaction, and other factors as outlined by Tisha are very important. Awareness and reading body language is also important in determining if anything is changing. These last two aspects are usually the hardest to learn if you’re a beginner, but the bright side of this is that you will be able to read and interpret people’s reactions better regardless of what you have on.
Be patient, and take the time to learn for yourself and observe the changes that occur. Also remember that your interaction affects how these pheromones work as well. If you put on a social pheromone and don’t socialize at all, don’t be surprised if no one talks to you. Socializing means talking with someone, which obviously involves you as well You still need to put effort into it, but look at it as an opportunity rather than a commitment of time and effort. You have the power to determine where an interaction goes now, so use the extra momentum that pheromones can provide to decide where that ends up. Be a master of your own destiny and make it happen for you - pheromones are your wingman
I think that your main problem was androstenone overdose if not megadose.That explains the headake and pheros not working.
U said you had high doses of A314, IJ and TUTH used together.The three product do contain androstenone witch is the nastiest pheromone to overdose.Overdosing and megadosing can make headakes.Overdosing on androstenone will surely give you the “ghost effect” - when people tend to ignore you because of the too intense pherosignature.
Let’s see.A314 contains some little ammount of androstenone.IJ contains about 15mcg of androstenone witch in one spray is an overdose and the product description in the store site sais that the maximum of sprays that should be used is 2.U did this but combined with a314 you clearly put much androstenone than if u used only IJ.And on top of that u used 1-2 sprays of tuth witch for 2 sprays means 5mcg of androstenone.That combined with 2 sprays IJ and A314 is pure overdose witch is most likely to have you feel headake and verry nervous.On top of that over/mega dose yuu used some other product in high doses witch made the picture even worse 'cause using too much pheromones send verry confusing signals to others and contributes to headakes.
I see that you have desire to try out the pheros as fast as u can and get some results as fast as you can but overdosing on mones will not get you this.See when it comes to pheromones there is dosage witch is best and using more than this dosage and u will overdose.
Some advice - never again use IJ with tuth.NEVER.They both contain the same pheromone and this may lead to quick overdose with it’s all negative effects.
Befor making a combo - read for some experienced users here and their combos as to see how to combine some products.
Try not to use too many products at a time 'cause too many and different pheromones will get people confused and you may get a headake.Don’t use all the products you own at one time just because u want to have the power of each product at one time.
And last - be extremly careful when using IJ.If u’re young - do not use more than one spray.Even half spray may be enough.
Better get couple of pherofree days and then start by testing the products in LOW DOSAGES.Try 2 sprays of cttm2 for instance.See what happens.Then move on some other product.
Hope u understand all I’ve written 'cause it’s esential as not to overdose again and have problems like that u mentioned.
Using pheros in the right way is fun, fun, fun - so be cautious and HAVE FUN.
thnx guys.. i understand that pheros are not suppose to do all the work. but i dont see that little difference either.
I am not a shy or unsocial guy! i am actually way to social that i want some respect, and attraction. because some times i talk soo much or so silly that it kills the attraction. so as i said i am looking for respect and sexual attraction.
tonight i am going out with friends and this super cute girl to this hooka bar;; and i want to get together with her. but it is not working, btw i am not bad looking neither i have bad style. its usually when i start talking .. it misses things up.
so i wanna go and use 2 spray of CTTM or 2 drops of ALPHA314… which one do you guys suggest or if some thing else… i really wanna get together with this girl… she is supper awesome.:o
Well 2 drops a314 and 2 sprays cttm2 sonds good combo.I usually put 3 sprays attm2 but two is just enough too.This is good combo.U can use 1 spray tuth, 1 drop a314 and 2 sprays cttm2.By the way how old are you 'cause if u’re too young you might want to try this out first and see what the results are 'cause as I said - a314 do contain small ammount of androstenone and this combined with tuth and your natural anone can be a problem.But I think that 1 spray tuth and 1 drop a314 will not be too much.And combined with cttm2 should do the trick to get you some alpha social guy aura with some sexual vibes at the background.
Just watch out not to use too much pheros.
Pheromones are not chick magnets that will just make girls throw themselves at you. What they do do is alter the general vibe you give off. If a woman likes your vibe then she may throw herself at you if she is not too shy. It’s possible to use pheromones to alter your vibe in such a way that repulses some women too. I’ve experienced that with pheromones also.
For a pheromone to work on a specific woman you would have to alter your vibe to something that the particular women is looking for. It’s had to figure out what vibe a particular women will like. Most of the time they don’t even know what they like.
It is my opinion that men must figure out what the general vibe they give off is and how other people perceive them. Then they can figure out what pheromones they need to alter their vibe to what they want it to be.
thnx guys… i understand that pheros are not suppose to do all the work. but i dont see that little difference either.
I am not a shy or unsocial guy! i am actually way to social that i want some respect, and attraction. because some times i talk soo much or so silly that it kills the attraction. so as i said i am looking for respect and sexual attraction.
tonight i am going out with friends and this super cute girl to this hooka bar;; and i want to get together with her. but it is not working, btw i am not bad looking neither i have bad style. its usually when i start talking … it misses things up.
so i wanna go and use 2 spray of CTTM or 2 drops of ALPHA314… which one do you guys suggest or if some thing else… i really wanna get together with this girl… she is supper awesome.:o
Hi Awesome,
Maybe going back to the drawing board and re-start. I agreed with Spoopyace…“start with one product at a time and start with a small amount and work your way up.” I have personally been using A314 a quite a few times over a short period. There’s been a few questionable behaviors I’ve encountered while using just one drop. I’ am going to switch up and applied that one drop as mentioned to the front of the neck. Until I pinpoint indicatiors: its stay the course, and “steady as she goes.” Be encouraged. :)If you feel the need to dicuss other concerns that maybe of importance, we are here to help; but don’t feel that you are being pressure.
Thing is you’re ALREADY VERY social and yet you spray yourself with a lot of socials. Makes no sense, of course you’re not going to see much results there because you’re already too social so for you it will be hard to see the change in regards to self effects because you’re already out there socially. I suggest just start with 2 or 3 drops of A314 ONLY since you don’t need the socials since you’re already naturally congruent with being a very social person.
So as mentioned just start with A314 (or IG) first, by itself to gather respect, and in various doses UNTIL you see a difference.
i feel like a rippoff… i wish there is a way they work 
Hang in there and be patient. We’ve been there and we are here to help each other.
You still need to put effort into it, but look at it as an opportunity rather than a commitment of time and effort. You have the power to determine where an interaction goes now, so use the extra momentum that pheromones can provide to decide where that ends up. Be a master of your own destiny and make it happen for you - pheromones are your wingman 
That explains the headake and pheros not working.