No results yet from Instant Openness and Instant Female Magic in class: dosing advice

Not to be negative, but thus far I have gotten absolutely zero results with my mix. I am new here and recently ordered Instant Openess and Instant Female Magic. They are both to-go bottles.

I have used the following combinations about 3 times each:

2 sprays wrist - Instant Openness
2 sprays back of hands - Instant Female Magic

And my other one I have tried…

1 spray wrists - Instant Openness (rub together)
1 spray neck - IO
1 spray back of hands - Instant Female Magic (rub together)
1 spray back of neck - IFM

I am wearing these pheromones at three different classes all with girls ages 18-20. Since I see them every day I have a good “baseline”. I have seen absolutely no IOIs or changes in any behaviors.

Do any of you have suggestions on dosages, locations, mixes, or anything to try!?

I will definitely try whatever ideas you all have and report back my newbie experiences.

Craazy…do not be discouraged!! I have IFM and it works for me. The results you’ll see are likely to be subtle so be aware. I have noticed women that normally don’t talk to me very much will get quite chatty once exposed to IFM. Other women that wouldn’t normally have anything to do with me will smile and say hello. It does not affect all women.

Also your dosage could be a factor as well as placement. If using the to-go size, you might want to go with 4-5 sprays (which would be equal to roughly 2 sprays of the 30 ml size). I spray IFM on the front of my neck and that seems to be a very good spot.

Keep experimenting!! But with the to-go size you likely won’t be experimenting for long. Good Luck.:cool:

Thanks for the tip… so do you spray 2 full sprays on the front of your neck?

You beat me to it The King. I think craazy needs to increase his spray as well. I think thats why I went with the regular’s…and they will be here tomm…

Jeremy

King: Do you spray 2 full sprays on the front of your neck?

What do you guys think about using both as a mix… and them being equal dosages? I am trying to figure out good locations/mixes to experiment in my classes that are simple (not take a while to apply) but effective.

Hey now Craazy,

Check it out, I’m going to try and help you out here.

First thing you need to understand is how pheromones work if you don’t already. You may, but being new, you may not so don’t take this as an insult.

When people are exposed to you every day they come to know you as you are and expect you to behave a certain way. That’s normal human behavior. Have you ever heard the expression “I can smell your fear.”? Phero’s work the same way. You are adding a molecular signature to yourself, yet at the same time you have to be congruent with that signature. If you are wearing Instant Female Magic, and are expecting the girls to swoon over you it isn’t going to happen.

Here’s the deal: the signature tells the target, hey take a look at this guy. She will take a look at you that is certain. She might start to twirl her hair, she might start to move a bit in her seat, she might have more eye contact, but rest assured 99% of the time she will NOT start a conversation with you. That my friend is what you need to do with her. It’s just the socially acceptable standard that the men start the talking.

Pay attention to body language, and more importantly start talking to your target.

Your pheromone signature also has to be congruent with who you are as a person. In no way shape or form will it change you, or build confidence. That has to be done by you, but it’s all good, pheromones can help you on your journey. Only because you know you have a molecular advantage that if used correctly can benefit you tremendously.

So what am I saying? Simple if you are wearing pheromones and expecting magic without performing it it isn’t going to happen. SO go out there, start talking to these girls like you are the hottest thing on the market and look out for SUBTLE IOI’s like body language.

You’ll get the hang of it.

OK the to go size bottles have the same formula’s as the regular but because they are smaller including the atomizer (sprayer) they spray about 83.1932748463916290253109% less than the full size. So I would use 1 spray of Instant Openness to the back of my neck, (this way I don’t fully open up to the girl like a needy wuss). 2 sprays of Instant Female Magic to each wrist or the front of my neck, wherever you feel comfortable. Each 2 sprays of to go is about 1.6 of the full spray. Start off light and look for those subtle signs like hair twirling. VERY IMPORTANT: Talk to them, even if you don’t see IOI’s.

If a girl thinks your shy, or awkward then you do not match the signature you put out and it wont compute in her head and you will not get the results you desire. Be the man you want the pheromones to help you become and you’ll see a whole new world.

Anyway hope this helps

More on body language

Thanks SteveO… I do understand what your saying. I am very outgoing as it is, and generally don’t have a hard time with women. I also have read The Game and MM. The point of the pheromones for me was to 1. experiment because I’m curious and 2. give myself just an extra edge… like a bit of added excitement with my personality.

Your advice is very good, of which most of it I follow already. I initiate conversations a lot even with girls I do not know very well.

What I’m mainly looking for is dosage/mix suggestions at this point to possibly show stronger reactions. I did not even see the most subtle IOI wearing 1 or 2 sprays of openness and 2 sprays of IFM to each back of the hand. Suggestions/comments?

Sorry I did not intend to insult your knowledge, that wasn’t my intentions. A lot of new users have this magic potion idea and wasn’t sure if you did or not. I’m glad you don’t.

You say it’s been 3 times, is there a particular target you are looking at?

What is the air flow like in the room, area?

How long after spraying do you see the target?

What other colognes (if any) are you wearing?

There are a LOT of factors that it could be, we are a good community and should be able to work it out with you.

i know, im out of my element here (how did i get in the men’s section :confused: )

anyhoo-

women on IFM dont always give major IOI’s.
they get comfy with you, relaxed and la la la la …they wont tell you or even sit differently like that :wink:
got to work your magic while they are affected, so just assume they are and talk to them!

as far as IO goes, up that dose brother. i cant get chicks to shut up when i wear it, and so i wear it alot :slight_smile:

the first thing i notice with IO is that if i ask someone a question that may require a description (like directions) they have that moment to inhale the pheromones and they explain closer. it closes the physical gap, i dont believe anyone really knows they do it. its like they think your hard-of-hearing, they get closer to talk to you :smiley:

SteveO your quickly becoming my hero haha! Yeah I totally did not take your comments as an insult… I think its great how in depth you were to help out a struggle new kid on the block. :slight_smile:

There is 1 girl that has been giving me some IOIs, but prior to pheromone use. While not a “target” per say, I would like to see the effects on pheromones with her. Beyond that, there are no targets really. I have been going on a few dates with a girl but have not worn pheromones and think I won’t as I obviously haven’t found a good mix yet. Plus, I am doing great without them with her at least.

The room is relatively small, not a big lecture hall. Seats about 30. Air flow is not heavy just “normal” heating.

I usually spray before heading into class… so about 5-10 minutes.

I tried wearing without colognes. At one point I used some Nautica Longitude/Latitude as cover since I had some small travel sized bottles like the TO-GO pheromone bottles.

Yet again thanks to everyone for all the help, I am quickly falling in love with these forums. :slight_smile:

NOW this is some great advice right here. Lor has already won an OSCAR for advice.

Good job LOR, I never even thought of it like that. I don’t wear that much IO cause I am too talkative as it is. Hell I spent 57 minutes of customer service time up talking about the incredible hulk marathon with Jasmin today.

As far as the Instant Female Magic, I always get that comfy vibe with the ladies. They show it by leaning in closer and space invasions, but you’re so right. It’s so damn subtle almost not there so work it regardless.

Hey the votes are in: And the grammy for Bestest BartenderO Informativation goes to Lor:

wow, i dont know what to say!

you like me, you really really like me!

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seriously though, thank you steveO

i know how frustrating it can be when you think you dont have expectations,but then you dont see anything obvious and you realize maybe you did have expectations…

somethings were obvious,others were subtle.

i definately noticed the IOI’s better after the fact.
you think back and then ahhhhhhh thats what that was about!

Good deal I will try blasting some openness. Also in the earlier posts someone mentioned using 5-6 sprays instead of 2 because it is TO-GO size. That seems like too much. Shouldn’t 3 or 4 sprays be closer to 2?

Each to go spray is 83.094793749823748923749238%(Steveo made me do it as a way to get back at his crazy numbering) :stuck_out_tongue: of a full size spray. Basically 2 to sprays is roughly 1.6 sprays from the full size bottle. With that being said, you’re right 3-4 to go sprays is more like 2-3 full size sprays.

Maybe I will try 4 sprays of openness and see if I get some talkative results.

Good idea, and forget mixing for the moment. Try each out on it’s own for about a week so you can see what each will do. Had you gotten the “regular” sizes, I would have said a couple of week, upping the sprays slowly to see what your personal “sweet spot” is.

Also, remember that some mones “don’t work” for some people, it depends on your natural signature.

Good Luck

Well I’ll try 4 sprays and see if I notice any effects… maybe if I see nothing I’ll go to a max of 5.

I would guess pheromones would work for me as I am a pretty typical built Caucasian guy but who knows.

I’ll try just doing 4-5 sprays of IO and see what happens. Tomorrow I have 2 early classes so I’ll give it a shot and report back!

You have to try it in numerous places (remember, in class people are/should be focusing on the class materials). Go to the mall, bookstores, out to eat etc.

Yes that was a problem for me as well. I became comfortable with just wearing it in class. So far, only the other day, was the first time I got a number at school. Every hit I have gotten was somewhere else, like totally unexpected places. I believe, IMO, it actually enhanced my experience as I was so taken by what was occurring I had to act.

When I am in school, although I am a bit older than the average student, I find myself focused on the tasks at hand. Sure I will be the first to glance at the HB8 in the tight jeans walking along, but it’s always available to look at and my education takes precedence. I get so entrenched in accomplishing my goal, to complete the assignment, and not look stupid (I am) in front of my classmates who are 18-23 average. Perhaps I subconsciously believe I will get embarrassed by the young babe telling me I’m old enough to be her father. Although I shouldn’t as of current all 4 of my girlfriends and 1 mistress are all under 25.

I think I need a walker, they’re killing me

i wanna see a pic,steveO
c’mon, a pic of you for a pic of me

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