this is a quote from Tacitus, who wore huge amounts of pheros compared to most mortals it seems
Here is some more info from Jasmin and Visionary talking about low doses of P83 being effective:
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Originally Posted by Jasmin view post
Actually, in some cases, this seems like the perfect thing to do. Some putatives appear to have “gob it on” qualities.
Others, (like P83 for instance) show activity in “smidge” quantities.
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Originally Posted by Jasmin view post
Hey nbully,
I can’t speak for Lord Tacitus’ giant megadose adventures, but in some of my preliminary putative testing, some molecules totally CAN be in giant doses and work to great efficacy. For me, anyway.
I’m discovering that in some cases, what we hypothesized about doses is completely different from reality.
For instance, P83 (Experimental Pheromone P83 - Alpha A314) WORKS in smidge quantities. I was feeling overdosed and spaced out even at 5 mcg! (2.5 spread between wrists and neck) I was led to believe that I might want to explore going at a much lower dose to explore its properties…
Whereas some putatives can go into bathtub quantities: the more you submerge yourself, the more effect you get. P79 comes to mind for this effect for ME, but everyone’s mileage varies. I know some ladies can get agitated under P79’s spell, while some, like myself, walk around bowlegged and intense.
Some other putatives that aren’t even really really explored, like P77 or P76… I have no idea on dosage. Maybe they are things that glisten in giant quantities! Maybe they’re duds?
We’re introducing more putatives shortly, to all you crazy ass Tacitus wannabes. We might even bundle a few, to get more people on the putative train.
Tac, keep up the good work! I wonder what would happen if I mixed up a batch of this exact mix and covertly sprayed it on a layman?
Just wondering Jasmin with regards to your P83 experiences, and how it WORKS in smidge quantities. You were feeling overdosed and spaced out even at 5 mcg! I will have to try this lower quantity out as I am finding it does tend to make me quite aggressive and angry at 25 mcg and more. Tension and aggression can be an aphrodisiac though of course (eg. make-up sex) so it might not be all bad 
. What have you seen exactly in what P83 does at smidge quantities?
Also generally if you are finding that some pheromones work at really large quantities (perhaps Meo-Est?) maybe you guys could try selling/giving away as order bonuses these ‘putatives’ at the higher quantities of mcg. 300 mcg of Meo-Est or 500 mcg of P77 for example might become a standard application that way. That way more people could test and more results would appear before everyone ‘forgets’ about the old putatives as they play with the new ones. I am thinking it is like in the supplement world. There, some things work in gram doses, most in mg doses, and some (like the herb Huperzine A and the mineral Selenium) in mcg doses.
Visionary
Another quote from Tacitus on mixes in gereral:
a quote from examine:
Too bad so many of those good things are out of stock right now!
No doubt! What it also shows is that low doses of P83 are effective. So we do not need a super high mcg count to use it in an oil. It also gives some dif ideas on what to pair P83 with.
From my experience P83 with nol creates a happy go lucky, touchy feely mood. P83+None= wild bitch fits/wild crazy sex.
It’s a very aggressive molecule from my experiences. It’s got P79 amplifications qualities but from what I’ve seen those qualities can be extremely sexual or extremely happy.
I completely agree. I like P83 with Spaceland or with my 50mcg alpha-androstenol (in grapefruit) it works very well. Upbeat but still has a sexual side that gets lots of touchy feelies. I just found some more P93 so I discovered I have enough to make a batch of ICM …1a so I am going to see what a ~none based mix does in oil. I hope my goodies get here by Thursday so I can composite it.
Still deciding what Common Scents cover scents to use. The Common Scents, uh, scents work okay but they aren’t exactly inspired. Some things smell pretty close but others smell nothing like the original. They do work VERY well as far as diffusion however. I can’t wait to see what the new scent is going to be from Androtics because I plan to try an oil with the Androtics scent.
Hey Snoop, just to be sure, how many mcgs of TAF did it take you before you noticed it started amping P83’s effects? I’m mixing a to-go of the two up and I want to see how they combine with A314 since it’s my base mix.
I was seeing effects at 5mcg per spray. I’m getting ready to order some things to try a new (non oil mix 
) and I plan on using 5mcg per spray. That is just my experience, I’d say give it a try at various amounts and see how it works for you. 
Will do. Once I’ve got my ingredients I’ll keep you posted on the results, because I’m quite certain I’ll see some interesting ones.