I just ordered the ingredients to make another ICM …1b (because I have enough P93 for it since it is out of stock- along with so many other things) but I was interested in any ideas for another composite. I’m having fun trying this since my first time went much better than I expected it to. Anyone have any suggestions on what they think would make a good oil based composite?
I’m not worried about whether or not the ingredients are in stock or even social vs sexual. Just brainstorming right now.
PSST!!! Hey Snoop, heard ya needed help.
P83: 20 mcgs per sray
Andresterone: 10 mcgs per spray
Andrestenone: 2.5mcgs per spray
TAA: 10mcgs per spray
TAF: 2.5mcgs per spray
TAA: 5mcgs per spray
P83: 10-20 mcgs per spray
Alpha Androstenol: 10 mcgs per spray
TAC: 5mcgs per spray
-None: 2.5mcgs spray
P83: 10mcgs spray
TAF: 2.5mcgs per spray
These are some of the mixes I’ve been wanting to test but I can’t afford to test all of them. As you can see, they all have our favorite ingredient in them which I’m sure you’ll like.
Thanks, those look very interesting! I might composite a spray version first to see how it goes before giving one a whirl in oil. (I LOVE using the oil ICM I made but it is very expensive to make. The upside is that a little goes a long way.)
Yup, one of the reasons I am making another …1b is because it is heavy in P83 (at least the way I make it!) 
Love those touchy-feelies!
I agree! P83 has one of the most obvious effects I’ve seen. It seems as if I can do anything and not get in trouble. I bet if I slapped a girl on the rear she probably wouldn’t get mad. In fact, she’d probably ask me to do it again!
I’ve done that! She didn’t ask me to do it again but she did play it off like it was normal and slap me right back.
Sn…oo…p? That’s the kind of thing you got to put in your journal bro!
Lol, but anyway, I’m thinking about doing the mix in blue because those are the ingredients I can readily get. Except I’ll have to use TUTH in place of -none until I can get a chemset.
The mix in black is supposed to be a mix between Ammo and Instant Gentlemen. I’ll breakdown the reasoning behind each ingredient:
Again, THESE MIXES MUST BE TESTED FIRST, but the one I just described is the one I’m most excited to try.
Feel free to chime in with suggestions guys. Also, Snoop, you can probably replace the TAA with TAC if you’d like.
I had a thought in my shower last night. It dosent exactly fit here, but it is about oil based products. Snoopy you chose to make yout ICM oil 4x spray strength, Steve went with 7x spray strength. Why did Steve go so much higher? We know Snoopy was playing the luck card, but before we start going oil crazy, I think we should try to figure that out. Save us all some money in the long run. Maybe its just me being a tight wad LOL but I think of crazy things in the shower.
I do not like making ineffective mixes. I am sure no one else would either. If anyone knows or if Steve would care to chime in???
PS I am getting ready to place another order, I really want to work on an oil product, hence my concern. It would really be great if some products would be back in stock!
If these work well as a spray, then you may need 4-7x strength for oil to work.
Amen, brother! I’d love to try some different composites (alcohol or oil) but so much is out of stock that my hands are tied right now. That is why I am doing another ICM …1b. I happen to have enough P93 (out of stock) to make it.
Actually, mine was at 5x strength but that is just nitpicking. I believe that Steve made his at 25% alcohol base pheros to 75% oil. Mine was more of a 50% to 50%. I don’t have the technical mind to figure out how one relates to the other strength wise (apples to apples). I agree that the lowest strength we can get away with the better for our wallets! I just know that I’m happy with my ICM attempt (the akuto scent turned out to be too weak, however.)
Today I got an order from The Common Scents and I’ve made up 3 roll on bottles of the ICM I have with 20% cologne strength scents which will dilute mine slightly but I was really curious to see how it works with a roll on application like Scent of Eros.
Please report back on The common scents oils mixed in. I hav an order pending for when what I want is in stock at androtics. I really am excited for an oil mix.
This was my whole thought I had in the shower. If A314 has 23.8 mcg per drop, that mcg content would have to be stronger than if is in a spray form. Steve came to a conclusion that 7x was the way to go for an oil mix. That would mean really if 1 drop of A314 was a spray, it would be like 2.72 mcg of Rone (23.8 x .8 = 19.04)/7 = 2.72 mcg (per spray). That is such a small amount. Less can be more. That is my point. Maybe higher is not better. That means at leat 11 other pheros would be added to Rone at .68 mcg (per spray). Is anyone following me or am I just thinking stupid.
Like I said it really has nothing to do with your thread Snoopy, but just a thought in general on mixes and making them more effective.
This is a great discussion, I’m glad this thread went in this direction. I’m looking forward to reading the input from those who are much more in the know than I am.
TAC: 5mcgs per spray
-None: 2.5mcgs spray
P83: 10mcgs spray
TAF: 2.5mcgs per spray
Hey Snoop, do you think that the TAF needs a dosage increase? I’m about to make my order and I really want this mix to bring out that inner animal in girls. The andrestenone content is supposed to be lower than the TAC content to aid with buffering but I want TAF to drive P83’s sexual effects through the roof.
Yeah I really hope someone can help steer us
The info I have is small. I have a quote from MHarris here:
and here s something else that mentions small amounts of pheros are effective:
There are more posts on using tiny amounts I just do not have them right here. It really makes me curious though.
Wow, that’s EXACTLY what I needed! Thanks Andrew! Your the man!
Yeah, very cool!
I wonder if we find that the 5x-7x strengths aren’t enough if P79 could help to amplify the effects (in a productive way). I am happy with what I’ve made at the strength I’ve made (still get mad self effects that I love) but if it would work better for others at a higher concentration, maybe P79 can help with that.
That could be a possibility, however, isn’t P79 kind of unpredictable sometimes?
Maybe a small amount of P79 plus a small amout of TAF together can help amplify the P83 mix.
Actually what we need to do is look at what pairs well with P83, that seems to make its effects intensify, then look at combining them into an acceptable ratio, then adding the next pheromone and making it into an effective ratio and so on.
If that’s the case then you’ll need a masculine phero like andoresterone or andrestenone. Usually either of these two pheros create somekind of attraction on their own so the addition of P83 usually skyrockets the effects.
Today I used A314+MX116 and got a LOT of hair flipping from my G.O.I. She was also talking quite dirty…said a lot about penetration…
Just so I am clear, what specific effects are you looking for from the p83?