Oral Pregnenolone reduces A1 depression?

I’ve been taking pregnenolone (10-20mg daily) & found that this reduces A1 depression greatly (on myself though). Stopped it for 1 week & the depression came back. Anyone had similar results? PheroQuirk?

Other things to note : The Pregnenolone I used were from Pure Encapsulation (10mg each). There is a distinct shift of personal odor/sweat, more musky (mild) after 2-3 days pregnenolone consumption. Results from pheromone usage are more pronounced & consistent.

My eyes also appear “glazed/sheen” (not high), reminding me of my childhood/teenage years where the eyes “sparkles”. Most kids have this big, round innocent eyes which sparkles. :d It’s kinda like that. Would the ladies love this look on men or themselves? Pregnenolone is found in the eyes as well (including the brain etc).

Been away for a while. What’s new? :smiley:
Identified the putatives already? :wink:

i2w

I know the women are attracted to young males because they are young, dumb and full of cum. On the side also because they are just simply youthful and good looking. Just like back in the highschool days when males are usually mostly physically fit.. tight muscles and in optimal condition to perform.

Big round innocent eyes I wouldn’t say is one of the most attracting traits in a man. Its the masculine qualities which attract a woman, and when I say that.. I do not mean “macho” qualities. Nothing sexy about big round “innocent” eyes on a man.

Big round “innocent” eyes is something that is more befitting a woman. I have a friend out of high school who’s like that, and it never got him laid as it just made him look like a “virgin.” For the love of god I’ve tried to warn him, but now he’s been suckered into a few relationships with a woman with kids, etc. (as in taken advantage of)

While that was sweet and “nice,” really it all comes down to the sexual tension between “Masculinity vs. Femininity.”

Hey there.

Well, I do find that preg makes me feel in a better mood generally, more resilient to life’s speed bumps and with some enhancement to cognitive functioning. Caveat is that I have some endocrine peculiarities and so my experience may not be representative. Preg I use is from life-enhancement.com (and for reasons unknown
I find it much more effective than most other suppliers I have tried).

Do I find preg insulates me from A1 depression? Hard to know. I take preg daily and only occasionally use A1. But I hadn’t noticed that effect so far.

Yes, I think this is right.

Interesting. Hadn’t paid attention to this, but think you are right.

I wonder whether this must always be the case. Many of the effective seducers are a little bit effeminate - in dress, voice and manner of thinking. Provided you show her you are not lacking in yang, I think it can be disarming and appealing to be aware of and comfortable with the yin in you also.

There will always be an exception to the rule.. but.. when I say things like this I am looking at the experience that generates the most results. Yes an effeminate man can also get attention too, yet you have to look at the type of attention he gets and from what type of crowd. There are people like Decaprio that will have some young girls squeel with excitement over him.

Theres also a difference between having a well taken care of appearance (also attitudes) and actually looking “pretty or beautiful,” is when it stops being masculine.

Really though.. I do whole heartedly believe that “most” every woman wants to be seduced by a “man,” and not someone who effeminate.. or too emotional like a woman (EMO’s), or just does not exude the protective, responsible strength that of a man. Then there will be the exceptions… but those are limited to a smaller crowd because I’m only talking about things on a bigger scale or things in general.

Anything from effeminate appearance to attitude can be a turn-off to alot of woman, because biologically or how society raises them that is their job. I’d rather just be a masculine man, because then it leaves more options open=) and because its fun being masculine anyway, hence the reason I like androstenone so much.

It’s late, so just a brief reply for now. My sense is that exhibiting qualities that are typically feminine at a certain time or in a particular context is completely compatible with exhibiting other qualities that are very masculine. In fact the more aggressively masculine you might seem on the surface the more fascinating it is for you to hint at depth via showing your ‘feminine’ side. Having some effeminate aspects doesn’t mean that the overall impression is feminine. Both sexes have both kinds of energy - just a question of balance.

Here is what Robert Greene has to say…
( http://www.nerve.com/Dispatches/Cosper/seduction/ )

In the introduction, you point out that the moment a woman begins to seduce, she assumes a male role to some extent, she becomes masculine. And that for a man to be effective as a seducer, he has to become feminine to some extent, because seduction is, or was originally, a female art, a feminine form of power — but powerful in part because it involves taking a traditionally masculine position.

You say it better that I do!

More flattery. It’s very effective.

No, it’s all very true, what you say. When a woman seduces, it’s a power game, and she’s assuming a slightly masculine role. A lot of the seducer roles require a kind of androgyny. In my research I became convinced of this, because all the great male seducers had pronounced androgynous streak to them.

So what about these classic female fantasies about the very manly man, the knight in shining armor, James Bond and so on? I mean, they’re not my particular fantasies, but they’re out there — and they seem to have no feminine side at all.

No, that’s totally untrue! The totally masculine male is actually one of the least appealing, effective male types. Granted, the world is full of individuals and there will always be women who do find that attractive, but I believe that’s not the majority. Even in the dashing hero, the great chivalrous knight, there’s always a touch of the dandy. Casanova was extremely androgynous and effeminate — he loved clothes and took great pleasure in attending to how he looked. And the medieval troubadour took great delight in clothing, adornment, aesthetics. We live in a period where men repress that side of their natures much more than ever before in history.

Straight men, maybe. Gay men seem to have that beauty and ambiguity thing down, stereotypically anyway — that combination of the extremely masculine, sculpted physiques, and then the attention to detail and appearance, the refined tastes and so on.

Right. And I don’t hear about many women who have fantasies about John Wayne, for example, who had none of that and wasn’t very seductive. I talked to my mother about this, and she said when she was a teenager, most girls were lusting after Montgomery Clift . . .

Thanks for the replies.

IME, 20-30mg Pregnenolone spread thru the day is better than a single dose. The calming but energizing effect on the mind/consciousness lasts longer, typically 3-4 hours after consumption.

There’s another mind calming supplement which I’ve found to be great : Ganoderma Lucidum aka Reishi or LingZhi. But most products are low/unspecified on the active ingredients. Found a few rare sources that is standardized full spectrum extracts. Will PM you (PQ) the source if interested. Supplements, similar to pheromones must be rotated to avoid acclimatization because we need them to be effective consistently.

Pregnenolone’s effects on eyes : My eyes still look the same (in every way) but it sparkles :smiley: I thought I used toothpaste on the eyes by mistake :smiley:

with regard to the masculine/effeminate look : Both are precious to our efforts, key is using them at the right moment to obtain results. Sticking to one aspect religiously risks failure when the situation calls for it.

Situations change over time or individuals’ tastes but it’s never folly to have the access to these merchandise/techniques in times of need. I regard pheromones as one of these merchandise/techniques. In hindsight, copulins do work for some male users while -none/Androstadienone works for female users.

I recall my SO wanting me to be her BF/lover/brother/father at different times during our stay together. It’s a role to fulfill what the other party lacks/craves, albeit not a daily event.

What’s the scoop on Instant Sunshine? :smiley:

@PQ
Have you read The Prince? I’m also loving the black strategy book as days goes by :wink:

i2w

Interesting stuff. Did any of you guys try Pregnenolone on the skin topically as a pheromone lotion?

The best pick up artist I ever knew had a great set of big round, child-like brown eyes. I think a unique feature like that (even if it isn’t particularly masculine) would help a lot in getting girls to fall for you as long as it is accompanied by other things.

Visionary

Those other things would have to be far greater, because in a healthy adult… big round “child-like” eyes would definetely look strange and off on a full grown “adult male.”

Now do not get me wrong, there is nothing wrong with alittle shine of youth… but Innocence does not denote maturity.. and it is that certain maturity that is an attractive quality to females. It is like comparing a College guy to a kid in high school. The college guy is more likely to look attractive to the high school girl other than the fact the high school guy is just more readily available anyway vs. the College guy or if he has something going for him as in like the Captain of the football team, or he is just very popular. So really it is like a comparison of “Man vs. Punk/brat.”

Keep in mind from the above that I was only referring to first impressions based on physical appearance. Yeah I’m sure you might know a pick-up artist who is successful with that. Obviously if he is a pick-up artist, he isn’t utilizing “looks” as an attractive quality… but more as something to throw women off guard so he can get past their defenses easier to work his magic.

Rob,
Yea well that pick up artist made girls think he was ‘innocent at first’ lol. He was the complete opposite though (but still very cool) when you got to know him.

I am not so sure looking ‘young and innocent’ on a fully grown male is a bad thing. Who cares about initial impressions really - if looking innocent puts the woman’s guard down and helps to get the foot in the door then what does it matter? There is more than one way to skin a cat and there is more than one way to get the girl. Some guys look mature and act macho and they have fun, some guys look innocent and are social, fun, not particularly macho types but they do ‘lead’ and are sly and they can have plenty of fun too (I have personally seen more of the latter guys being successful with women in their mid 20s and younger personally).

Visionary

well…really just a matter of prefference. I just think a man should be masculine. =)

I did try making my own (using AR perfumer’s alcohol + pharmaceutical-grade pure pregnenolone powder) without any noticeable results. I was continuing to supplement pregnenolone orally though and this might have masked any results.

DHEA applied to pits seems to change the smell of my sweat in a good way, but think any effect is likely to be quite subtle and I haven’t been patient enough to persist.

What you think, is definitely not what all women think though, Rob.

“The Man” is in NO way macho, takes every bit as long over his skincare routine as me, happily wears pink sweaters - but at the same time is very definitely NOT metrosexual, is definitely a man’s man, works out hard every day except Sundays, plays Rugby and Football (our type - not yours) as hard as any so-called beefcake, has the best and driest GSOH of anyone I know, but most importantly, he makes me feel good about myself - oh and he has enormous doe-like brown eyes, that still turn my tummy to liquid, even 12 years after first meeting him.

It’s horses for courses in the world of dating, and relationships, and as many women are attracted to a man who makes them feel special and protected, as are to a man who is all about machismo, being a “Playa,” putting it about to all and sundry, and generally being a “bad boy.”

It’s not all about sex, and sex is honestly a VERY small part of the attraction equation.

Ail :slight_smile:

yeah I see what you mean. I do alot of things like skincare, etc. There are just certain things I don’t do though that I would not consider masculine.. such as… 1. beng infatuated with pink 2. being overly concerned with how pretty I am. 3. being EMO and overly interested in being friends with girls in general rather than balancing it with sexual interest.

I know not everyone thinks as I do.. but come on.. its almost as if alot of these people are afraid to mention they would have sexual feelings for the opposite sex. Even though it is not all about sex, without that in the equation it is no more than like a friendship. I have a balance of tastes…you are right though… ultimately it is how you make them feel.. and who you are is the type of person you attract.

i have been studying pregnenolone activity last 10 months,and taking 500 mg day too.

In my opinion,the pheromones like andro 1,or androstenol,which can produce depresion in men,is because they sensibilize very much the gabaergic receptor in the brain.Like strong valium.

Well,low doses arent problem,but,if you read my presentation introduction in the forum,i have been taking 4 mg of alpha androstenol every day for 5 days,and its really strong in this effect.

and stimulates progesterone formation(this is one of the questions,why they are so wonder in women)

pregnenolone is the precusor of all the hormones,(like their mother)

its made from cholesterol,principally from fruits intake.

its the most abundant steroid in the human brain,and it have a wonder caracterist:it lowers gabaergic activity,this way,we feel more energetic(but without the anxiety it can happens without preg)and our memory gets better(more dopaminergic activity)

gaba is the relax neurotransmitter,but it can lowering memory or coordination too,if too much is produced(like drunk effect)

so,i guess this could be the explication to this effect of pregnenolone in lowering the a1 depresion…

Love reading your coments.I learned very much on this forum about pheromones.
Thank you all

500mg/daily of pregnenolone is a lot! why such a high dose? do you have arthritis?

I dont have it.

I have been using it for helping to recover the thyroid function principally.