OK, a nights sleep, a little perspective, the excitement has boiled away a bit. This is gonna be the most fun I’ve had in years.
IG + Tuth + Ishine with the IO kicker…adjust to your personal chemistry and I believe you have a great social first impression w/sexual overtones mix. Hmmm. Sounds a lot like ammo :o . OK I’m getting some ammo, if I don’t like the cologne it’s in I’ll pretend I do.
Next time I’m going totally social and a little riskier. I’ve got a piece of a togo of P74 left over from my newbie baptism. I’m using about 25 mcg of that along with cttm and some ifm on the back of my neck and ponytail.
Maybe the Artiste stuck in a redneck’s body will be sensitive to ifm and go into a serious funk. With a baker’s dozen of ladies in the room counting Teach I’m sure it would be of benefit to someone at any given time so I’ll make it a part of my wardrobe. I’ve used it some during the holidays around women that I don’t usually get along with real well to good effect.
P74 and CTTM: I pretty much blew it last time trying the p74. I had so much stuff on I have no idea what it was doing but I do trust the reports on it. I should have 2-3 25 mcg doses left. I do have a good grasp of CTTM so I should be able to recognize the difference of using them together.
Now about Teach. 28 -30 dark hair pale skin. Nice as heck. Seemed very organized. She’s quite a looker and knows it but doesn’t intimidate. She started the class off with a review of the synopsis and other class related business. I was in the “teacher’s pet” chair (left front, teacher’s right) so she handed me all the take one and pass 'em on materials. This afforded her a good whiff of pheros several times and her attention definitly focused on me more and more as the class went on.
As she shifted into “the let’s all get to know each other” part of her presentation she started to give us a rundown of her credentials. As she went on she seemed to get very concerned that someone might call her on the fact that she had never studied abroad. She started to qualify herself by talking about her hispanic boyfriend/fiance. She focused more and more of her attention toward me and went on about the reasons they hadn’t gotten married yet even though they had been engaged for nearly three years. It wasn’t his fault. This tragedy had befallen her. That circumstance had befallen him. It was without a doubt an attempt to justify herself to a group of strangers. I was doing this . The class went fifteen minutes long and most of that fifteen was because of this little stream of conciousness. I’m damn glad I wasn’t wearing a Mad Tater sized dose of IH.
All in all this one night proved to me that even small amounts of pheromones introduced into an environment of slightly nervous strangers can really have an impact.
Renster…Tater suggests that you work on heavy IH + EST and see what happens. Sounds like the ideal environment for making them hate being away from you.
Much more comfortable, the Turn Up The Heat may have really had me cranked up the other night. Maybe the p74 smoothed me out IDK. this combo worked to get me into a very social frame. One part of the class involved us all getting up and moving around using " ?como The Edge llamos? Buenos Dias" ect. It flowed around me much better than these things usually do for me. I’m not saying there was a self effect just than being a social creature was easier.
As to the hunnies, I took my same seat; Kayleigh took hers on my right and Carrie another High Schoolie squeezed in on my left to “share my book, the bookstore is out” bubblegum pop. I did suss out that they are both 18 so I don’t feel like a criminal. Well,Yea, I kinda do :o .
Laura approached me during the meet and greet session with her hand out. I smiled right through her eyes to the next girl and started a conversation as if I hadn’t seen Laura approach. No muss no fuss she went on to the next person. I don’t know if that was good or not. She looked at me as if she was trying to catch me looking at her several times after that, but I felt like dumbass for not taking the chance. Did I DHV or just look like an airhead asshole?
Teach was back on her game nothing unusual. Maybe that monologue about her boyfriend was just something she does.
Tater I’ll get the EST sometime but right now I want to replenish my p74 and get some TAC. I think I want to get a real feel for them and then get some A and B 'nols and try to take CTTM to the next level. I posted in the MTJ asking your thoughts on that. No hurry I need to get and test them out, but when you get a chance. I wonder is CTTM so good because it’s not tweaked at all or can we make it better?
Jeez, gotta start paying attention to the Spanish too. J-man I may be shooting you that PM, thanks for that!
My understanding is that cttm is a 50/50 mix of alpha and beta nols. That should be easy to whip up at home in various concentrations from experimones.
Renny - I want to first start by saying this is a GREAT journal my friend. Hilarious in parts.
The first part of this quote is a non-uncommon dynamic. Common enough that I am very aware of it. Part of it deals with boundaries we need to have as individuals and be comfortable with ourselves as individuals. The “Boundaries” series touches on this and “Boundaries in Dating” hits directly on this dynamic if you are into reading. Never anything wrong with counselling. Just research the counsellor or the service ahead of time.
The second part (chase/be chased) is very true. I have been married 20+ years and this is definitely the case.
renny
I did suss out that they are both 18 so I don’t feel like a criminal. Well,Yea, I kinda do :o .
Laura approached me during the meet and greet session with her hand out. I smiled right through her eyes to the next girl and started a conversation as if I hadn’t seen Laura approach. No muss no fuss she went on to the next person. I don’t know if that was good or not. She looked at me as if she was trying to catch me looking at her several times after that, but I felt like dumbass for not taking the chance. Did I DHV or just look like an airhead asshole?
“I kinda do” - yeah, I don’t blame you. Great line. Laughed out loud.
As for Laura. DHV or airhead - maybe more like I’m not sure I want to talk to you after our intro. She started out acting like a jerk. Let her stew just a bit then give HER the chance to make up for it.
Get a conversation going related to class. Then if it seems to be moving along say something like “You don’t seem as scary as when we met outside the classroom” or “I wasn’t sure we would get along - you did not seem like you wanted to talk to anyone that first evening waiting for the teacher” - something to make her take ownership of her ill behavior and give her chance to explain/apologize. If she doesn’t do that - well she probably isn’t the kind of person you want to be around anyways. Who wants all the drama, ups and downs of someone who feels they are entitled to act like a royal arse and treat people like you know what whenever they feel like it.
Thank ya Bosshank, my thinking is I’ll just approach her quite directly first thing next Tuesday with “Mi nombre es renny. ?Como The Edge llamas?” and give her a chance to start over. She may just be as shy and unsure of herself as I am. I’m pretty sure I’ve shut down a lot of girls over the last several years by acting the same way she did at our first encounter. I mainly want to use this opportunity to learn to deal with the ladies without putting any pressure on myself to “succeed”.
Your voice is always welcome here, Bosshank, and I look forward to tag teaming some more noobs with you in the Intro section.
Edit: I see the word expander is turning “t e” into “the edge”.
This is where I’m going with this: Mharris bases the instant line around a spray containing 12.5 mcg of a main pheromone with another 2.5 mcg of buffers/enhancers. At least that is my understanding from early posts. I think that btween TAC and P74 (and I’m just theorizing a bit) there is a good possibility of getting a super social response from the 'nols. Anyway I thought this would be a good place to start on some real mixing experience. Then we can crank it up to Mad Tater or even Tacitus strength if we choose.
Well everyday can’t be a great day. Head cold had me sorta out of it for class tonight. I wore the same p74/cttm/ifm combo I wore last Thurs. A new hunny named Sherri claimed the seat on my left, Carrie looked a little miffed but I was glad. Sherri is a little older. I should mention that there are plenty of empty seats in this class and I’m probably the only person in the room with someone on each side of me.
Sherri is hot except for two flaws, some really ugly tats on her arms (they look fake and I’m hoping they are) and the distinct aroma of ashtray. On the other hand we talked a bit and she seems really into me. When I asked if she’d be back Thurs she was like “oh absolutely” and then smiled and looked down like “I didn’t mean to sound THAT enthusiastic”.
Phero note: CTTM is cool stuff. How often do you find out somebody likes Tommy Tutone in the first five minutes after you meet them.
My head is spinning trying to keep track of all these putatives and MXs, and even reading the various often conflicting reports on some of them. Can you give me a clue about what effect P74 has, in your view?
Thanks! Unfortunately classes are canceled tonite because of bad weather . Oh well, I’m kinda sick from a cold anyway. I’ll be ready to rock by next Tuesday .
Actually I only had a little p74 left over from my Stupid Newbie Tricks and I never tried it by itself :o . I do have a new 30 ml bottle coming soon and I promise to give it a complete “trisha schedule” workout by itself and report about it like I should have done to start with. It is supposed to impart a “cool guy” social vibe and I would say from my last two nights trying it that it does something like that. CTTM by itself can make me talk too fast. With the P74 I seemed to enjoy conversing more and take my time saying things. Carrie, Kayleigh and Sherri were all very relaxed around me and sat closer than they needed to. This was likely the IFM but I think the P74 played a role there too. I would also note that Robert (remember him) has faded into the background the last two classes while I was wearing this combo. Maybe he seems less “cool” by comparison? More testing is definitely needed. I want to put some A314 and TUTH to work around these ladies before I test the P74 again so it will be a week or two before I get to it.
So P74 is coolness-in-a-bottle, huh? Sounds wonderful. Actually, the taking it slowly aspect sounds very practical. Sometimes my speech gets ahead of my thoughts and then… uh oh. But I won’t be getting any soon because it’s not efficient for me to order small batches of things ($30 delivery), but I’ll keep it in mind and read more about it.
OK friends be on the lookout for another stupid newbie trick update. I won’t reveal it just yet. This is a doozie and needs to simmer for a few days :o . I’ll just say this…Never doubt Androtics!
Meantime the big yellow and red truck brought me a bunch of new goodies this morning. I updated my arsenal post on the front page to reflect my new stuff. Of course this means testing! One thing at a time blah blah blah. What is it about these little bottles that make you want to just spray 'em all at once?! Must resist!
Here’s the hard part. Turning opportunity into action. The choke point.
Class was back tonite after being out Thursday for a winter storm. That was ok 'cause I was stuffed up with a cold virus from hell most of last week. I got to class early and got to chat with some of the married hunnies that I had not talked to before. I was wearing three sprays of ammo and felt great.
I wound up with my regular bookends, Kayleigh and Sherri. Sherri had dressed up a bit since last week and killed the ashtray aroma. She sat close and after a few whiffs of ammo moved even closer. Class started with a quiz. I’m sure I sucked, so what. Next up we moved onto the homework. Sherri pushed her book to the side and leaned over to read from mine! Hell yea this girl is interested!
Then we had to break into groups so I turned around to the table behind me and Sherri moved down to work with Kayleigh and her partner. Both of them looked at me like I was abandoning them. But the other single girl of respectable age in the class, Nichole, was back there. She seemed quite pleased that I was showing her some attention too. I should note that Laura (remember her?) was absent. After this group thing. The class all got up and moved around each asking the others about their birthdays. Very cool results here too. I wound up back where I started and spent the rest of the class rubbing elbows and playing footsie with Sherri.
So what happened? What is wrong with me? It should have been like taking candy from a baby. I just had to say, “Hey you know? We should go to the coffee shop and hang out a little.” I couldn’t. I froze. I choked. I just said “good nite, see ya Thursday.” It’s not even gonna hurt if she says “No.” I just don’t understand me sometimes.
If at first you don’t succeed try again, right? Any tips?
It is your 46 year old conscience saying 18/19 is a tad young … if I understand your post properly. A lot of potential problems … don’t know that I would go there if I were single.
:o . OK I’m getting some ammo, if I don’t like the cologne it’s in I’ll pretend I do.
. The class went fifteen minutes long and most of that fifteen was because of this little stream of conciousness. I’m damn glad I wasn’t wearing a Mad Tater sized dose of IH.
Well,Yea, I kinda do :o .
J-man I may be shooting you that PM, thanks for that!
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