Outta My Shell

Hello Pherotalkers,

I’ve been debating a journal for a while now. The main reason I haven’t before is that I am a perfectly boring, mild mannered, romantically challenged, soon to be 46 year old shopkeeper.

I’m M-B INTP with a heavy emphasis on the introverted part. :o Walk into my store and you might think I was the most outgoing person you ever met. Dale Carnegie and Nightingale-Conant can work wonders but they don’t really do much for your love life. In fact they can make you seem a little gay. I’m not bashing gay, it’s just that I’m not and being perceived that way is not good for an introvert’s ego. I made up my mind about this time last year to change all that.

The first thing I had to do was lose enough weight to feel at least moderately attractive. Walking everyday and learning to stay out of drive thru’s has helped enormously in that dept. Learning to translate that winning Dale Carnegie personality into a flirting, cocky funny, guy that gets the girls is step 2. The examples on this forum (you guys know who you are) along with the sites, books and forums you all have generously posted about are helping me to do that.

Step 3 is simply getting out of my shell and doing it. This is a small town and if I started hanging out in the only bar and hitting on the biker chicks I doubt I would be around very long. :open_mouth: I would also be afraid of what my customer base might think. I’m starting a night class at my local CC…beginning Spanish to be exact. I doubt it will be a fertile ground for babe hunting in and of itself, but it should be a place to start making acquaintances with the single population in a subtle but productive way.

So this journal is about renny learning the ropes of socializing. Pheromones will be the focus of course. I wasn’t really planning to take my life in this direction when I first ran across this forum. My initial interest in pheros was the business/sales/Dale Carnegie aspect. You PUAs and assorted bad boys and girls have inspired me to try again. Thank you and I hope this journal can in some way pay you back or at least pass it on.

My arsenal so far:

A314
Instant Jerk
Instant Gentleman
Instant Shine v1.1 2x
Instant Openness 2x
Instant Honesty 2x
Instant Honesty Extreme Test results
Come Talk To Me Mix 2
Instant Female Magic
Turn Up The Heat 2x Using IH to buffer TUTH around guys
Heavy Ammunition
Raw Power Raw Power thread
MX103 Test results
MX271 Report Tests of the series
MX272
MX273
MX275
MX276

MX277
MX278
MX279
MX280
MX281

TAA-40mcg
TAC-25mcg Tac Test A simple TAC based mix
TAC-40mcg
TAF -40mcg
TAH-5mcg

TAK-40mcg
TAL-5mcg Some thoughts on TAL
P74-25mcg
P75-20mcg P75/P76 Comparison
P76-20mcg
P79-20mcg
P80-20mcg
P83-40mcg
P86-40mcg
P93-40mcg

P96-40mcg
Alpha Androstenol 100mcg
Beta Androstenol 100mcg
Androstenone-40mcg
Androstenone-50mcg
MEO-EST 40mcg

need to work with these more
new on latest order

Soon:
P77, P78, P81, P82,

Eventually:
any damn stinky butt cheese ass swampy sweaty thing Jas and Company decide to sell. 'Cept SteveO. He’s my hero but if I had to keep him I’d have less money to spend on pheros. I’m pretty sure they’ll never sell him anyway.

Well, it’s about time. I was wondering where the Renny Journal was.

Ren, I was happy to see that you are starting a journal. Your advice has been helpful to me and I look forward to hearing about your phero adventures outside of your shop.

I think a class at your CC will be a great opportunity for hits. Wish you the best man!

Im with patratt! This is automatically going to my MUST READ list!

Same here.

Hey, its been almost a full day. Wheres the next journal entry? :slight_smile:

The pressure of fame! :smiley:

Jeez tater, I’ve been thinking about whether or not to respond to your comment in another thread about Obama at a Klan rally.

I didn’t want to admit this but I just happen to have a second cousin who is a bonifide card carrying hood wearin’ Forsyth County Georgia Klansman. He called me yesterday to brag about how well “His Man” (Obama) had done in Iowa and to tell me that he was on his way to South Carolina to campaign for him. I guess you can tell San Fran that “the times they are a changin’.” :slight_smile:

As far as the journal goes I’ll start class on Tuesday. Gonna wear 1x Instant Gentleman, 2x Turn Up The Heat (i’m 45),1x Instant Openness, and 2x Instant Shine composited with a light but dignified sandalwood EdT that has hints of vanilla. I’ll probably add a touch of A314 to my upper lip a la catlord. This one is tried and tested several times and seems to make me stand out without any negativity. I’ll hit 'em with some riskier doses after I see the territory. Until then though I’m phero phree.

Thanks everybody for the reps. This should be fun.

Holmes, maybe you should let New York know about the “new south” thing too. I really hope that doesn’t offend anybody. I’m dead serious this guy’s just one of those bubba rednecks and he’s bonkers for Obama.

Just for chuckles why don’t you ask him how he feels about Hillary? If you can quote his response verbatum I’m sure it will be enlightening.

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Hey Gone, he was actually in Hillary’s camp until Iowa. I was quite surprised to hear him call Obama “his man”. Yellow Dog Democrats vote for the person perceived to have the best shot at defeating a Republican regardless of any other factor. 'nuff about politics though.

I detest what my cousin associates himself with. I think he sees it as a matter of free association in much the same way paparazzi see themselves as defending free press. I believe deeply in both their freedom to be assholes; I deplore the damage they do.

Hey jrafael, what meetups are we looking for?

go to the website plug your zip or city and see what meetups are available in your area.

OHHHH, i gotcha. Duh.
Hmmm, bikers, and politics wait we’ve got vegens too. Just kidding. Actually j-man this looks interesting I’ll check it out. Reps to ya!

Of course it depends upon what type of woman you are trying to attract, Renny, but I personally think the cocky/funny thing which D’Angelo et al is trying to sell you guys is wrongheaded. Learn to flirt with your eyes, let things build slowly, exhibit curiousity (but not too much) about the lady you are trying to interest, actually listen to the answers she gives you, and I guarantee you will do well.

HI Izumisan, I agree somewhat, I haven’t read D’angelo so I may be a little off base there. I wasn’t refering directly to the “cocky/funny” pua style. Thanks for the opportunity to expand a little on my OP.

When I was younger, I had several good long lasting relationships. After things began to get serious the trend was for me to commit mentally to the relationship as a means of getting to intimacy (emotional and physical). I see now that this was backfiring… I became too committed too quickly and expected the same from my girlfriends. When things moved too fast for them and they wanted out I was left feeling as though there was something emotionally lacking in the way I had behaved and pressed (chased) harder the next time. It snowballed until I eventually completely surrendered to the idea that I couldn’t satisfy a woman on an emotional level. I probably should have sought professional counseling but that is a strong taboo in the circle I come from…a man handles his own problems…big boys don’t cry.

I think a large factor in this was the fact that to overcome shyness early on I took self improvement seminars and listened to self improvement materials that emphasized fast personal connection and closing the deal. Heck I even sold amway. Winning. Win Win. These things are great for business and politics. I now think in the context of an intimate relationship these tactics a) caused me to produce a facade that was not constructive and b) caused me to confuse physical and emotional intimacy with commitment.

In thinking that shyness was a fault to be overcome, I made it easy to fall in love with me, but I took all the fun out of loving me. There is a give and take that has to take place on a continuing basis. Chase, be chased. Push pull. Be bold, be shy. Being a “winner” is a static state, a relationship must be dynamic.

Of course, there are things that I need to re-learn now. These are skills like building a social group, attraction and that all important push pull relational dynamic. Until joining this board to learn about pheromones I had no idea that such a thing as a seduction community existed. I had no idea that the things I just mentioned were skills and not facts of life.

I am not at this stage of my life interested in going to bars and opening sets for 4 hours a night, 4 nights a week to learn to bed HB9s in seven to ten hours and 4 venue changes. But it does inspire me to get out and at least try to find some companionship. I think there are a great many things to learn from the game and those who play it.

couldn’t agree more.

I found the book “without embarrassment” quite clever and simple, your should give it a try.

reading it right now. :slight_smile:

OH MY FREEKING GAWD!!!

Anybody ever get just exactly what they wished for and realized it made no sense whatsoever to wish for something like that because they would never ever be able to deal with having that which they wished for?

Yea, just like that.

OK, I’ve gotten my nervous breakdown over with…nah, we’ll put the nervous breakdown on pause. I’ll resume it after I post. It’s great to be alive.

rewind: Class was to start at 6pm. I wanted to get a little A314 huffing done ahead of time so I put a tiny drop under my nose and smeared it around where my mustache grows about 3:30pm. Little trick I stole from catlord17…I think cloud9 might do it too. My reaction was perfect, centered, graceful, in fact I think it’s helping to calm me a bit now. I have deliberately kept my use of this stuff to a minimum just to keep the self effect viable.

5:00pm closed the store. I put on my mixture from the earlier post changed clothes, got my stuff together. Felt good, smelled good, ready for the world.

Got to campus about 5:30 I wanted plenty of time to find the right place. It’s been around a long time and is spread over about 10 buildings and five decades of different numbering sytems.

Found my room with plenty of time to spare and low and behold two hunnies had found it before me.

“Uh Spanish?” I asked with a gesture to the locked door.
“Yea” whispered hunny1. She was a wispy waifish blond obviously just out of high school and not an appropriate target…especially since hunny2, tall, darkhaired, 30ish, and covered head to toe by an awesome bitchshield was very appropriate. Hunny2 stared diligently in another direction.
“I’m, renny” I beamed like the seminar test tube clone that I am.
(‘dumbass you should lightly neg the brunette’
‘about what? dumbass she’s not even looking at you’
‘I don’t know about what you were supposed to have something canned, dumbass’)
“I’m Ka–…” hunny1 shyly offered, her whisper failing beneath the roaring in my ears.
“Kate?”
“Kayleigh”
“Hi Kayleigh, nice to meet ya” then to hunny2 “You are?”
“Laura” she snapped. Kayleigh looked at me as if she had already been bitten by Laura.

About then Annie, a plump but lovely latina, arrived dragging a very ugly girl who was surely her boyfriend. They sucked on each others faces and the boyfriend left. Kayleigh and I introduced ourselves and met Annie.

More hunnies arrived, too many to greet, besides I was still trying to think of some way to change Laura’s attitude. Teach arrived and let us in. Teach was a pure doll. She would wait 'til later to freak me out.

Class was laid out in two rows of tables, I moved to one edge of the front row where I could lean back royally in my chair and see the people behind me. Kayleigh squeezed her charming underaged butt right into the seat next to me… and turned her back without so much as a glance. WTF?

I leaned back, relaxed and tried to make eye contact with each hunny as they came in. Was I gonna be the only male in the class? 8 hunnies, 9, 10, 11, 12, there he was (just an ugly girl dumbass) lucky 13. He sat behind me by Annie. He had missed her sucking on her boyfriend’s nasty face. Oh well, still a damn good ratio. I relaxed, smiled and let Teach take over as mistress of ceremony.

I’ll move on here and come back to Teach in another post. I think she is either sensitive to pheromones, or just had a horn on about something. Did I mention she freaked me out?

Near the end of class, Teach invited everyone to introduce themselves. She pointed to me to start. I did pretty good , for a freaked out clone, and made good eye contact, got plenty of smiles. I listened carefully to each of the hunnies; tried to make mental notes. 3 married, 2 besides Kayleigh still in highschool. That leaves 4 good targets plus Laura and Annie.

As a grand finale Robert, the ugly girl, introduced himself as an artist stuck in redneck’s body. Some of you well read guys PLEASE tell me what can that came out of. It was the final blow. All the hunnies ooohed and aaahed. The blood rushed back into my ears. Class broke up and I made as graceful an exit as possible. Annie’s boyfriend was waiting for her when the door opened and the last thing I remember was her telling him what a snobby biatch Laura was.

OK, I’ve cleared my head. I hope this catharsis has some entertainment value. It was good to talk it out. I really didn’t do too badly. There are some good opportunities ahead. Gawd Kayleigh would be easy if she were 22 instead of 17. I’ve gotta bust Laura’s high horse. Annie is not really my type but she might make a good friend. And there are at least 3 or 4 others to give a good whiff of Jasmin’s finest to. Damn I’m tired. Oh and I want an A in Spanish. :smiley: